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OT: Clinton or Bush?

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President?

Harris
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29%
Trump
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RFK
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11%
The Rock
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4%
Mark Cuban
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Michelle Obama
4
14%
Ron Desantis
1
4%
Rik Smits
5
18%
 
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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#701 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Oct 1, 2024 9:19 pm

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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#702 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Oct 1, 2024 9:30 pm

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Stannis wrote:Oil is now up 4%

If prices at the gas pump go up towards the election, that won't be good for Kamala.

It's unfair, I know. But just saying....

Almost like Israel and Iran are doing this on purpose...


Russia and Israel have a vested interest in helping Trump win, because neither Putin or Bibi want anything to do with Harris, who most likely will not take their sh*t, and Iran is probably doing Putin's bidding. The timing is so deliberate on all of this it just can't be a coincidence.
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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#703 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Oct 1, 2024 9:33 pm

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Okay, I wasn't sure before, but now I'm willing to take a bet that this dude is getting his marching orders from Trump. I didn't know that this was a personal relationship.

The odds of Trump calling this dude and ordering him to shut down the docks are sky high
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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#704 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Oct 1, 2024 9:35 pm

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Lindsay couldn't be any more transparent behind his intentions.
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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#705 » by Stannis » Tue Oct 1, 2024 9:35 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:The timing is so deliberate on all of this it just can't be a coincidence.


Unironically, Lindsey Graham's reaction was to hit the oil refineries asap lol
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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#706 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Oct 1, 2024 9:38 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:The timing is so deliberate on all of this it just can't be a coincidence.


Unironically, Lindsey Graham's reaction was to hit the oil refineries asap lol


Right. And when oil and gas rocket to the moon, he'll pretend he never said this and blame Biden for everything going to sh*t

These dudes are desperate.
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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#707 » by Kampuchea » Tue Oct 1, 2024 9:42 pm

This port strike under Kamala’s watch is not a good look leading up to the election. Economy and market in shambles.
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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#710 » by Pointgod » Wed Oct 2, 2024 1:01 am

Kampuchea wrote:This port strike under Kamala’s watch is not a good look leading up to the election. Economy and market in shambles.


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Post#712 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Oct 2, 2024 1:30 am

Moderator just shut down Vance. Well done
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Post#713 » by Handledatruth » Wed Oct 2, 2024 2:02 am

Take a shot every time Vance says “open border”.
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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#714 » by Pointgod » Wed Oct 2, 2024 3:19 am

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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#715 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Oct 2, 2024 10:48 am

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Okay, I wasn't sure before, but now I'm willing to take a bet that this dude is getting his marching orders from Trump. I didn't know that this was a personal relationship.

The odds of Trump calling this dude and ordering him to shut down the docks are sky high


In fairness to the Trumpy union head, his job is to strike at a moment when he maximum leverage in negotiations to get the extra wages for his members.

Sure, politics gets into this stuff, but it does benefit them to do this now.
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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#716 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Oct 2, 2024 10:56 am

Kampuchea wrote:This port strike under Kamala’s watch is not a good look leading up to the election. Economy and market in shambles.


I didn't realize presidents control the behavior of unions.

Clearly the country needs a stronger man as president to control them since they do.

Yeah, the administration could do Taft-Hartly...maybe they will.

Good time to strike though, as the Union has a lot of leverage.

IF Biden uses Taft-Hartley and forces them back, the dems will look anti worker, which will shave off some blue collar on the fence conservatives among that group and/or pro-labor dems (whichever ones still exist) or independents.

If Biden doesn't but the businesses decide to play hard ball with the union, then the economy slows down for a month before the election, and since American voters have the attention span and memories of goldfish, they'll suddenly run around going "OMG! ECONOMY BAD! GET ME MY DICTATOR IN HERE!"

So the business leaders could also have an interest in letting the economy take a hit.

Union leaders figure the business leaders like $ more than influence and settle. How long it takes means how much it might do the political work it may have been intended to do.

Also, good job by the union, as there job is to maximize leverage to get the highest wages for their workers, and this seems like that situation.
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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#717 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Oct 2, 2024 12:09 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
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Okay, I wasn't sure before, but now I'm willing to take a bet that this dude is getting his marching orders from Trump. I didn't know that this was a personal relationship.

The odds of Trump calling this dude and ordering him to shut down the docks are sky high


In fairness to the Trumpy union head, his job is to strike at a moment when he maximum leverage in negotiations to get the extra wages for his members.

Sure, politics gets into this stuff, but it does benefit them to do this now.


That part i have no problem with. Unions should use timing to their advantage to get laborers their fair share.

It's the fact that this dude apparently knows Diaper Donny instead of just being some brain rotted fan is where I raise an eye brow

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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#718 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Oct 2, 2024 12:12 pm

Handledatruth wrote:Take a shot every time Vance says “open border”.


The GOP supports open borders. That's the funny part. They actually don't care to pass any legislation to secure said border, they just wanna scare folks who have never met anyone a shade browner than they are into thinking that murderers are walking willy nilly into the country
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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#719 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Oct 2, 2024 12:16 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:Moderator just shut down Vance. Well done


"I thought you weren't going to fact check"

^this statement would have been disqualifying a decade ago. The bar for Republican candidates is buried so low you'd need a shovel and a pick ax to find it.
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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#720 » by Stannis » Wed Oct 2, 2024 1:40 pm

Kampuchea wrote:This port strike under Kamala’s watch is not a good look leading up to the election. Economy and market in shambles.


Not sure if this is under "Kamala's watch" but yeah, she is being dealt a tough hand; and i don't think Biden is doing her any favors. She will have to answer for all the crap that happened under Biden as POTUS.

I know Trump had to answer for all the fumbles and covid in 2020, but it was at least his doing. Kamala has a really tough upward battle, imho. She's expected to fix alot of these issues, but it still seems like things are under Biden's grip. He should have went ahead and retired. And Kamala's "campaigning" would just be her running the country.
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