Around the NBA - 2024-25 Season Continued Continued

[3toheadmelo]

If we compare this team to last year then we would have to compare it to the January24 team that was 14-2. Over the course of a season that's at least 60 wins conservatively. It was superior to what we have now:

OG
Randle
IHart
Donte
Brunson

bench:
Josh Hart
Grimes
Deuce
Mitch
Precious

I dont know if we could rebuild a roster that balanced and deep with our current assets again

Yeah, that was the best team I’ve seen from the Knicks since 2013. I don’t know if we’ll ever see a team like that ever again. We had a great balance of elite defense and offense

If we kept iHart you can see a situation where it’s better to keep Randle but I would still say no … take your chances on KAT / iHart front court

But the main loss was Hartenstein and not Julius

Let’s look at his season … wasnt bad. He did okay. Nothing great. Wolves fans were having chest pain watching him early

Looks like they’ll beat the Lakers who look slow and terrible … even if Luka comes back … wolves DO look good and Randle part of it

But if McDaniels goes off it’s a diff team

You’re overrating Ihart. He got cooked in the playoffs by Embiid. Mitch was much better than him.

Either way, we could’ve ran it back and traded for a rim protector with someone like Kessler instead of giving up 7 picks for Mikal. The Knicks miss Randle’s toughness and playmaking badly. KAT is a good player but he’s not exactly what we need and our defense has been awful with him at the 5. Much worse than it ever was when Randle was here.


Hes playing very well in this series. Timberwolves fans love how he’s been playing for him since he came back from his injury. This is the Randle we would’ve gotten last year if he was healthy imo.

[3toheadmelo]

I would take him over Thibs, everyone on the Clippers is saying how much of a big role he's played in their success this year. I don't know how modern he's coaching, but if he's working with Lue, who is elite, he has to be an upgrade.

Yeah he would be my #1 option if we fired Thibs. Bring him back home!

The ideal to me would be a young new coach like Bryant, and JVG as lead assistant of defense like he is now. I think he's probably happy as an assistant at this stage, but then why would he leave LAC in a lateral move.

Maybe JVG as head coach if he hired a modern young offensive guru as assistant

Idk, taking a young new coach for a win now team is incredibly risky. We don’t even know if the guy is good at x and o’s. Guys like him are better for rebuilding teams. Thats what Orlando did with Jamahl Mosley. I don’t know any team that took a brand new young coach for a win now team and they made a massive leap. Remember the Knicks took that route already with Derek Fisher and look what happened.

I’d love to get JVG. Dude even has James Harden praising him.

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[cgf]

It would have been nice if he did the same in the playoffs for our team while he was here.

Crazy what being healthy will do for a guy

I wish he'd been healthy in last year's playoffs, come back from his shoulder around the time Mitch did. We would have beaten Philly easier, Indiana next, and lost to Boston in 5 or 6. That would have been a more satisfying run. Then the FO could have made a good evaluation on the off season. Might have still done the KAT deal.

If Julius had been healthy, we’d have beaten Boston with the way he was playing + playoff Brunson + the post-OG defense. After his slow start last year was Julius was giving us his 25-10-5 on nearly 60% TS while being top 3 or top 5 in open 3s created. The guy even powered through Giannis during the IST, trying to keep us in it when nobody else from the team showed to Milwaukee.

I will believe this too my grave

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Crazy what being healthy will do for a guy

I wish he'd been healthy in last year's playoffs, come back from his shoulder around the time Mitch did. We would have beaten Philly easier, Indiana next, and lost to Boston in 5 or 6. That would have been a more satisfying run. Then the FO could have made a good evaluation on the off season. Might have still done the KAT deal.

If Julius had been healthy, we’d have beaten Boston with the way he was playing + playoff Brunson + the post-OG defense. After his slow start last year was Julius was giving us his 25-10-5 on nearly 60% TS while being top 3 or top 5 in open 3s created. The guy even powered through Giannis during the IST, trying to keep us in it when nobody else from the team showed to Milwaukee.

I will believe this too my grave

[cgf]

Crazy what being healthy will do for a guy

I wish he'd been healthy in last year's playoffs, come back from his shoulder around the time Mitch did. We would have beaten Philly easier, Indiana next, and lost to Boston in 5 or 6. That would have been a more satisfying run. Then the FO could have made a good evaluation on the off season. Might have still done the KAT deal.

Randle being an expiring contract is what made the deal really happen. Obviously Hartenstein leaving was huge but the fact that they were going to have to max Randle probably made them think they had to use him in a deal bc they probably didn’t want to max him.

Maybe, but that is an assumption. Julius was going to be getting paid into his 30s on that next deal, why are we so sure that he wouldn’t have opted for the security & increased team flexibility, the way Brunson did & the way Randle did on his previous contract?

For all we know he was cool with taking whatever Brunson took, to reinforce their status as co-captains. But the FO panicked about starting a season with Randle, Anunoby, and Sims as our only health bigs with nba experience.

Or they just thought that Karl would have more value in the summer of 2026 if this core just isn’t good enough even with better chemistry & depth, than Julius & Donte would have.

[cgf]

I wish he'd been healthy in last year's playoffs, come back from his shoulder around the time Mitch did. We would have beaten Philly easier, Indiana next, and lost to Boston in 5 or 6. That would have been a more satisfying run. Then the FO could have made a good evaluation on the off season. Might have still done the KAT deal.

Randle being an expiring contract is what made the deal really happen. Obviously Hartenstein leaving was huge but the fact that they were going to have to max Randle probably made them think they had to use him in a deal bc they probably didn’t want to max him.

Yeah makes sense. I still wish we could have replaced iHart with a comparable C first. But then it's hard to do both Mikal and KAT deals.

If we could’ve snagged Goga or Kessler to replace iHart, we wouldn’t have needed to make the Towns trade.

Brunson - Bridges - Anunoby - Randle - Robinson
McBride - DiVincenzo - Hart - Bitadze/Kessler
Payne - Shamet - Achiuwa

Would’ve been a monster 9 man rotation.

[Reign23]

the one time I root for Luka he is under the weather and throwing the ball away on every single possession. smh..

Randle destroying your lakers

"my" lakers is a little too much but kudos to him. he is ballin so far in these playoffs, no doubt!

[Reign23]

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Should've kept him. He is finally healthy. He's playing like how he did last year before he fked up his shoulder.

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so basically randle & kat are scoring the same amount of points in the playoffs

kat is shootng 58 percent on 2s which is better but randle is shooting 50 percent on 3s on slightly more volume compared to kat's 38

it's pretty much a wash so far

not if you are including DDVs brickfest!

[LookToShoot]

The NBA needs to bring back best of 5 for the first round.

[Reign23]

at some point you're all gonna look back and admit that we made these trades and we didn't get any better. which has been my whole point since the summer. all our money and assets to move laterally.

It’s all matchups tho Sham
If we Advance to the ECF does it make us better?
Or does a quality Knicks team just exist in a time when there’s a buzz saw in the East ?

Then that’s even more reason to wait for someone like Giannis before we give up all our picks

why do you always talk like its some kind of certainty that Giannis becomes avalable?

[god shammgod]

It’s all matchups tho Sham
If we Advance to the ECF does it make us better?
Or does a quality Knicks team just exist in a time when there’s a buzz saw in the East ?

Then that’s even more reason to wait for someone like Giannis before we give up all our picks

why do you always talk like its some kind of certainty that Giannis becomes avalable?

The writing is on the wall. He was quoted recently as saying he really wants to get a 2nd championship. He has pressured them to make deals in the past by lowkey talking about leaving. There are no more deals to make. Half the bucks team are free agents, that team cost a fortune and they have no assets to make trades. They’re ****. I actually think that they might be relived if Giannis asks out. They’ll want picks though since they traded away all of theirs.

[Reign23]

Then that’s even more reason to wait for someone like Giannis before we give up all our picks

why do you always talk like its some kind of certainty that Giannis becomes avalable?

The writing is on the wall. He was quoted recently as saying he really wants to get a 2nd championship. He has pressured them to make deals in the past by lowkey talking about leaving. There are no more deals to make. Half the bucks team are free agents, that team cost a fortune and they have no assets to make trades. They’re ****. I actually think that they might be relived if Giannis asks out. They’ll want picks though since they traded away all of theirs.

He might ask out, yes. And we also should not have traded 5 picks for Mikal, agree. But this is some 2k **** where its like "if we would have all our picks, we would get Giannis". You know that its not that simple. What if he has also teams like Houston or OKC on his list of possible trade destinations? the 5 picks for Mikal would be meaningless, because those teams are loaded with about 10 picks plus young studs.

[Reign23]

If I could rewind to the offseason, I would make the Minnesota trade and deal 1-2 assets with Bogdanovic for a 3 and d wing and call it a day.
But thats just not how i works and this **** is easier said than done.

[cgf]

Should've kept him. He is finally healthy. He's playing like how he did last year before he fked up his shoulder.

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so basically randle & kat are scoring the same amount of points in the playoffs

kat is shootng 58 percent on 2s which is better but randle is shooting 50 percent on 3s on slightly more volume compared to kat's 38

it's pretty much a wash so far

not if you are including DDVs brickfest!

It is when you add back in that Julius’ playmaking has been an absolutely massive part of the roll they’ve been on. A Knicks - Wolves series would be a ton of fun.

Jalen v Ant, Ju & Donte v the dudes who took their jobs, OG v the new OG, Mitch v French Mitch, Hart v Naz…though stylistically Reid is more like KAT and Hart is more like theor version of Julius…Deuce v NAW.

A lot of parallels and similarities that should lead to a series that went back forth a ton.

[JayTWill]

Then that’s even more reason to wait for someone like Giannis before we give up all our picks

why do you always talk like its some kind of certainty that Giannis becomes avalable?

The writing is on the wall. He was quoted recently as saying he really wants to get a 2nd championship. He has pressured them to make deals in the past by lowkey talking about leaving. There are no more deals to make. Half the bucks team are free agents, that team cost a fortune and they have no assets to make trades. They’re ****. I actually think that they might be relived if Giannis asks out. They’ll want picks though since they traded away all of theirs.

I didn't agree with the moves the front office made this off-season but why is pairing Giannis with a small, poor defensive scoring guard and a coach with questionable playoff success a clearly better choice to go all in on when we see how things have worked out in Milwaukee?

[spree2kawhi]

We really miss Randle’s toughness and playmaking. Really… badly even.

[3toheadmelo]

We have a “top 5” roster

[spree2kawhi]

It’s all matchups tho Sham
If we Advance to the ECF does it make us better?
Or does a quality Knicks team just exist in a time when there’s a buzz saw in the East ?

Then that’s even more reason to wait for someone like Giannis before we give up all our picks

why do you always talk like its some kind of certainty that Giannis becomes avalable?

And ask to play for the Knicks… and be available for a package of our leftovers and the 5 picks we “wasted” on Bridges… No seriously, what was the package for Giannis going to be anyway?

This page is yet again full of nonsense and make-believe. Apparently we also miss Randle very much because Towns isn’t exactly what we need. But that bum is… FOH. This cannot be an actual opinion

[spree2kawhi]

We have a top 5 roster.

[3toheadmelo]

We have a top 5 roster might be the worst take on this site can’t take your opinion seriously.