Knicks-Nuggets Post Game (Free Candy Strikes)

[emo]

The day Alexander Graham Bell invented the telephone, he already had three missed calls from Danilo Gallinari

I thought that was just a myth at first.

but now..

[NBA Fan 1234]

The day Alexander Graham Bell invented the telephone, he already had three missed calls from Danilo Gallinari

Lol. Do you follow Lupe on twitter? A few weeks ago he was retweeting everyone that was posting the Chuck Norris quotes replaced by D-Rose (similar to the one you posted). So funny.

[Marty McFly]

you guys are still torturing yourselves with this?

[DRoberstonNYY]

you guys crack those jokes.. but the joke is on the Knicks at the end of the day... gallo is on a great team with a great future and we are terrible and stuck on a team with two terribly flawed players.

but yeah keep on with the "funny" jokes

[CrazyKnicks]

Imagine if we never made the Melo trade and signed Tyson in the offseason. We potentially had a lineup of : Felton, Fields, Gallo, Amare, Tyson and a deep bench of Will, TD, Shump. Jorts and Moz.

[Starksmadness]

The day Alexander Graham Bell invented the telephone, he already had three missed calls from Danilo Gallinari

Lol. Do you follow Lupe on twitter? A few weeks ago he was retweeting everyone that was posting the Chuck Norris quotes replaced by D-Rose (similar to the one you posted). So funny.

Lol Nah. I dont know who that is. That one was always my favorite so i like using it lol

[NYForever]

The Knicks need discipline, flat out! They can add any point guard, the top defender in the league, it won't matter. I think that sometimes you guys forget how much talent this team actually has. Everything can't be optimal, hell you can look at any team in the league and there is something wrong with their roster or ways that it can be better. The difference is coaching.... people who keep saying stop blaming the coaching are just fooling themselves. These players are not responding to him, hell even if the trade with Denver never happened I personally believe the record would be almost the same.

[dk7th]

he has a quick enough first step such that his defenders have to reach in and foul him or he goes by them to the hoop. and it helps that he is 6'10", all arms and legs, and can put the ball on the floor for a few dribbles. he uses his body excellently in spite of the fact that he is not a fast runner or a high jumper.

anyone who can use his body to an advantage in a sport is an athlete. any athlete who can continue to find success repeatedly in this fashion is an above-average athlete. gallinari is not an elite athlete but he is a nightmare to guard and since basketball is a game of skill and mind i would say you need to remove the hater glasses you've been wearing.

and DK this is where the knicks show how dumb they are defensively... they all know or should know that gallo has been struggling with his outside shot.. yet they bit on ever head fake.. chandler, then douglas who almost clotheslined him on a fake... stay on your feet and let gallo shoot from deep... when he drives, don't play him, but play the ball, he looks to make contact, so don't play him.. play where his shot is going to be released..... the knicks don't think and any player, especially smart ones will just abuse the knicks.. gallo did just that.. and honestly, I am not suprised.....

outstanding analysis on how to stop gallinari. let me see if i understand you:

1) he has yet to show he can hit the 3 reliably so there's no need to really crowd him-- yet guys do. and when they do he puts the ball on the floor to draw a foul and usually does. and biting on head and ball fakes is easily neutralized if you focus on his belly since the belly is the only part of the body you can't deke a defender with.

2) he really has not shown much of a midrange shot off the dribble either so why not let him take that shot until he proves he can make it? sort of like guys laying off rajon rondo-- give him room until he proves he can hit that shot that doesn't presently exist in his arsenal?

so why isn't the league figuring this out?

[GnarlesOakley]

so why isn't the league figuring this out?

Well he isn't dropping 37 points every night so teams who aren't as dumb as the Knicks do contain him...but it's also easier said than done because if his shot is dropping he's basically unguardable.

[dk7th]

so why isn't the league figuring this out?

Well he isn't dropping 37 points every night so teams who aren't as dumb as the Knicks do contain him...but it's also easier said than done because if his shot is dropping he's basically unguardable.

yeah i think that his 3 point shot has never been as good as advertised but most people forget that he came into the league with a reputation as a slasher, albeit this was as a shorter teenager. but he's 6'10" now and only beginning his third full season, doesn't turn 24 until much later this year. he won't really be hitting his prime for another two or three years.

if he improves on his 3 point shot-- seems like his mechanics are a little strange and his shot from out there is a bit flat-- that is going to be a very tough assignment.

and while he doesn't have a midrange game or post game i looked at the percentages from midrange in hoopdata and he is really no worse or better than other more highly rated small forwards-- in fact he is much better than beasley.

[K_ick_God]

so why isn't the league figuring this out?

Well he isn't dropping 37 points every night so teams who aren't as dumb as the Knicks do contain him...but it's also easier said than done because if his shot is dropping he's basically unguardable.

His shot is rarely dropping which is why he is so eminently guardable.

[TKF]

Well I think we've beaten this dead horse again lol. I'm going to let the dead horse sleep some now so we can continue to beat him again soon.

Bottom line though: TKF is validated in his love of Gallo -- let's face it, he embarrassed us last night. But one game does not a career make. Melo and Pierce are HOFers most likely ... Gallo is a guy playing for his next contract and a guy who is pretty clearly worse than guys drafted after him (Gordon and Lopez specifically).

So let's not go too far with this.

TKF is right for a day but you know what -- I believe I'm more right in the long run: Our problems are 80% coaching. The pre-Melo team with Gallo and Mozgov was pretty bad and was bad in just the same way that our current team is bad: Because Mike McD'Antoni is a completely horrible, idiotic coach. If we had a good coach, we'd look a lot better ... Gallo or no Gallo, Melo or no Melo.

It's the coaching fellas. The end.

one thing KG, you can downplay all of this and throw jabs about gallo love.. but this is about a way of running a team.. gallo is just a pawn.... in the end, this is my feelings about my team, although you and many others have made this all about gallo... this could be any young talented group of players. it is about a way of doing business.. a way in which the knicks have failed and sucked at for years.. yesterday it was gallo, tomorrow it will be someone else.... but you can keep on with the gallo jabs, and gallo love.. for some reason you thinks it validates your arugument and mitiages mine.. but get this right, I have been right for more than one day, and more right than most on this forum..... Bank on that.. and right now this team stinks, as projected, I hate to be right about that... but it is what it is....

The sad thing is that you seem to be more concerned with tearing down gallo than just owning up to the fact that the knicks are so poorly run that moves like this will continue to happen, and how can you put any faith in an organization like that... just own up to it.. I have.. you are making this about gallo.. not the rest of us...

So true ...... I've read your posts throughout the trade talks and onward and you've been steadfast in your opinions. And you've been right on. You like Gallo and so do many others and some people wanted a home grown, fundamentally sound baller on the team who in hindsight we just gave up like a piece of trash.

I enjoy watching a fundamentally sound baller doing all the little things right to make a formidable team. Gallo was that guy. I see why you mention Gallo a lot ...... not because you're a fanboy of his, but because he is the EXACT type player that you are seeking to be part of the Knick experience. A player who is an integral part of a TEAM.

Yet our management continues to go after high profile celebrities with games so flawed that it's just amazing that they can continue to make the same mistakes over and over again. Posters bring up your fanboy love of Gallo because they are wrong wrong wrong. They can't argue with what you laid out on the table that possibly was to be after the trade because you have been right. Gallo was a key player in that trade. If it was Fields (in hindsight) it woulda been ok. But losing that glue guy like Gallo was devastating, especially when he was a draft pick.

yea, it is very frustrating. after getting amare, drafting gallo, watching chandler develop, i thought we were on the right track of developing a team.. gallo was the guy walsh drafted a guy he felt would fit a system, one we tried to develop with dantoni.. like it or not, we were on our way to having a system, a way of doing things, one that we could use for years to come..... dolan derailed it, and said screw the fans... that bothers me..

[emo]

That Gallinari/Chandler thing was like bloods vs crips round these parts.

[dk7th]

so why isn't the league figuring this out?

Well he isn't dropping 37 points every night so teams who aren't as dumb as the Knicks do contain him...but it's also easier said than done because if his shot is dropping he's basically unguardable.

His shot is rarely dropping which is why he is so eminently guardable.

if he were eminently guardable he wouldn't be able to get to the line as often as he does.

besides, in the stern era lots of players get away with breaking the rules in order to make the game more entertaining if less fundamentally sound, and all in the name of manufacturing soopastahs.

for example, no-calls on palming the ball and traveling helped enable players like iverson and marbury and steve francis and baron davis and macgrady and carter and bryant and wade and lebron and brandon roy and rose and westbrook and others who have been playing in michael jordan's afterglow. heck they gave ewing the bunny-hop because he lacked a genuine low-post game. you have no problem with these blatant violations, do you? because the refs allow it by some sort of edict.

so even if gallinari is getting favorable calls from the refs-- i don't see it that way at all-- then it is just part of the larger publicity and hero-making machine that is the modern nba.

or maybe gallinari is a whole lot better at basketball than you or others are willing to admit.

[TKF]

he has a quick enough first step such that his defenders have to reach in and foul him or he goes by them to the hoop. and it helps that he is 6'10", all arms and legs, and can put the ball on the floor for a few dribbles. he uses his body excellently in spite of the fact that he is not a fast runner or a high jumper.

anyone who can use his body to an advantage in a sport is an athlete. any athlete who can continue to find success repeatedly in this fashion is an above-average athlete. gallinari is not an elite athlete but he is a nightmare to guard and since basketball is a game of skill and mind i would say you need to remove the hater glasses you've been wearing.

and DK this is where the knicks show how dumb they are defensively... they all know or should know that gallo has been struggling with his outside shot.. yet they bit on ever head fake.. chandler, then douglas who almost clotheslined him on a fake... stay on your feet and let gallo shoot from deep... when he drives, don't play him, but play the ball, he looks to make contact, so don't play him.. play where his shot is going to be released..... the knicks don't think and any player, especially smart ones will just abuse the knicks.. gallo did just that.. and honestly, I am not suprised.....

outstanding analysis on how to stop gallinari. let me see if i understand you:

1) he has yet to show he can hit the 3 reliably so there's no need to really crowd him-- yet guys do. and when they do he puts the ball on the floor to draw a foul and usually does. and biting on head and ball fakes is easily neutralized if you focus on his belly since the belly is the only part of the body you can't deke a defender with.

2) he really has not shown much of a midrange shot off the dribble either so why not let him take that shot until he proves he can make it? sort of like guys laying off rajon rondo-- give him room until he proves he can hit that shot that doesn't presently exist in his arsenal?

so why isn't the league figuring this out?

yea, I think some teams realize this to some degree.. which is why you don't see gallo going for 30+ games more often...but the kid is learning to adjust and once he gets that midrange shot down, he is going to be hell to deal with, even moreso.... but it takes a smart defensive team to deal with guys like him.. the problem dk around the league, there are not many smart defensive teams and surely the knicks are as dumb as they come at times.... haha

It is no easy task to keep gallo under control, but when he faces teams that don't play with discipline he will have career games....

[RHODEY]

Hey TKF, I know from your past that you had a disdain for Free candy's game, but how do you feel about him coming off the bench? I honestly think we'd have a few more games in the win column with him off our bench.

[Shemy]

Hey TKF, I know from your past that you had a disdain for Free candy's game, but how do you feel about him coming off the bench? I honestly think we'd have a few more games in the win column with him off our bench.

I have started to like him this season

I feel dirty

[Shemy]

so why isn't the league figuring this out?

Well he isn't dropping 37 points every night so teams who aren't as dumb as the Knicks do contain him...but it's also easier said than done because if his shot is dropping he's basically unguardable.

His shot is rarely dropping which is why he is so eminently guardable.

he still gets to the basket @ will

(top 5 in the league in FTA)

[dk7th]

harrington is definitely playing better but that is due in part to realizing he is finally part of a good team and has to rein in his selfish tendencies. he's still a bad defender and occasionally shows he is selfish like last night when he was called out by mr. frazier on that two on one fast break. if he gave a damn when he was on the knicks he would have been so much better-- but he didn't give a damn. can't really blame him for coming to the knicks with a toxic contract. but it would have been nice if he had been more professional about it. i am kind of happy for him that he has found a nice niche and that he has teammates who feed him when he has a hot hand-- teammates like gallinari for instance.

[Rasho Brezec]

Still wouldn't take Lopez over Gallo. Call me when Lopez can defend his man or becomes a special offensive player. He's a good shotblocker and a competent scorer. I don't think he's got any inkling of dominance in his game.

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