Official Melo Trade Thread: WOJ BOMB UPDATE PG 21: Will Waive NTC for HOU and CLE

thebuzzardman · Post #721 » by **thebuzzardman** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 2:33 pm

NYKfan77 wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
JustCame wrote:We're not getting Capela. Let's drop that thought.

They need Capela, especially with Harden and Melo in the lineup.

Hell, he might lead the league in blocks

Melo will be fine on defense he will be a full time 4 there as they have Ariza and Tucker for the 3. Not great defender but fine.

If by fine you mean it won't matter as Houston will just outscore people, then I agree. Melo is fine at defending no one now, not even 4's.

putiger78 · Post #722 » by **putiger78** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 2:36 pm

Ryan Anderson is not an asset... he is a major liability. He is a guy with a injury history whose only real asset is his shooting and he shot miserably last year and makes close to $20MM a year. He's not quite a Noah contract but he is approaching that realm.

Teams were asking two firsts just to take his contract in a salary dump... to give them Melo? If they want to give us Anderson we should ask for two firsts and another asset. We don't HAVE to do a deal.

Dantares · Post #723 » by **Dantares** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 2:36 pm

Lee and melo for love, shumpert and Frye works under the cap too.

Lee is an upgrade over shumpert because he can play defense like shump but he can shoot the ball much better. Melo is just a better fit against golden state than love.

Billy Goat · Post #724 » by **Billy Goat** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 2:38 pm

putiger78 wrote:Ryan Anderson is not an asset... he is a major liability. He is a guy with a injury history whose only real asset is his shooting and he shot miserably last year and makes close to $20MM a year. He's not quite a Noah contract but he is approaching that realm.

Teams were asking two firsts just to take his contract in a salary dump... to give them Melo? If they want to give us Anderson we should ask for two firsts and another asset. We don't HAVE to do a deal.

Buying out Melo > taking Anderson back

supertruck97 · Post #725 » by **supertruck97** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 2:59 pm

putiger78 wrote:Ryan Anderson is not an asset... he is a major liability. He is a guy with a injury history whose only real asset is his shooting and he shot miserably last year and makes close to $20MM a year. He's not quite a Noah contract but he is approaching that realm.

Teams were asking two firsts just to take his contract in a salary dump... to give them Melo? If they want to give us Anderson we should ask for two firsts and another asset. We don't HAVE to do a deal.

He shot 40.3% from 3PT Range on 7 attempts. His EFG% was 55%. 5.2 WS. The reason his FG% looks so bad is that 7 of his 10 attempts per game were from 3.

He's league average PER with great 3PT range and shooting. His contract is probably $5-8M per year too much, but he is nowhere close to Noah.

For comparison, Noah took NO 3's and had an EFG% of 49%, 6% lower than Anderson who was shooting from 3Pt range on 70% of his shots...

ForzaMetro · Post #726 » by **ForzaMetro** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 3:00 pm

JustCame wrote:We're not getting Capela. Let's drop that thought.

They need Capela, especially with Harden and Melo in the lineup.

Agreed. Morey was on ESPN the other day talking Capela up as a possible superstar in the making. I can't see anyway they part with him for Carmelo Anthony.

ForzaMetro · Post #727 » by **ForzaMetro** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 3:02 pm

Billy Goat wrote:
putiger78 wrote:Ryan Anderson is not an asset... he is a major liability. He is a guy with a injury history whose only real asset is his shooting and he shot miserably last year and makes close to $20MM a year. He's not quite a Noah contract but he is approaching that realm.

Teams were asking two firsts just to take his contract in a salary dump... to give them Melo? If they want to give us Anderson we should ask for two firsts and another asset. We don't HAVE to do a deal.

Buying out Melo > taking Anderson back

I think I agree, but I would have to know the pick(s) coming back with Anderson.

NBA Fan 1234 · Post #728 » by **NBA Fan 1234** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 3:03 pm

supertruck97 wrote:
putiger78 wrote:Ryan Anderson is not an asset... he is a major liability. He is a guy with a injury history whose only real asset is his shooting and he shot miserably last year and makes close to $20MM a year. He's not quite a Noah contract but he is approaching that realm.

Teams were asking two firsts just to take his contract in a salary dump... to give them Melo? If they want to give us Anderson we should ask for two firsts and another asset. We don't HAVE to do a deal.

He shot 40.3% from 3PT Range on 7 attempts. His EFG% was 55%. 5.2 WS. The reason his FG% looks so bad is that 7 of his 10 attempts per game were from 3.

He's league average PER with great 3PT range and shooting. His contract is probably $5-8M per year too much, but he is nowhere close to Noah.

For comparison, Noah took NO 3's and had an EFG% of 49%, 6% lower than Anderson who was shooting from 3Pt range on 70% of his shots...

The majority of us wanted nothing to do with Noah (and a bunch of us didn't want Rose either, but that's neither here nor there). Anderson shooting better than Noah doesn't make us want to take him in while trading Melo. That's beyond stupid. We. Do. Not. Want. Anderson. UNLESS we are getting back multiple first round picks and other assets.

Fury · Post #729 » by **Fury** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 3:05 pm

whocares1 · Post #730 » by **whocares1** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 3:06 pm

I wouldn't mind Ryan Anderson the player but not for three more seasons at that price when Melo likely would opt out after this season. It's not crazy to think that this deal can get done without Anderson having to play here, and I think unless Cleveland offers Love he's likely going to Houston.

supertruck97 · Post #731 » by **supertruck97** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 3:08 pm

Knickstape1214 wrote:
supertruck97 wrote:
putiger78 wrote:Ryan Anderson is not an asset... he is a major liability. He is a guy with a injury history whose only real asset is his shooting and he shot miserably last year and makes close to $20MM a year. He's not quite a Noah contract but he is approaching that realm.

Teams were asking two firsts just to take his contract in a salary dump... to give them Melo? If they want to give us Anderson we should ask for two firsts and another asset. We don't HAVE to do a deal.

He shot 40.3% from 3PT Range on 7 attempts. His EFG% was 55%. 5.2 WS. The reason his FG% looks so bad is that 7 of his 10 attempts per game were from 3.

He's league average PER with great 3PT range and shooting. His contract is probably $5-8M per year too much, but he is nowhere close to Noah.

For comparison, Noah took NO 3's and had an EFG% of 49%, 6% lower than Anderson who was shooting from 3Pt range on 70% of his shots...

The majority of us wanted nothing to do with Noah (and a bunch of us didn't want Rose either, but that's neither here nor there). Anderson shooting better than Noah doesn't make us want to take him in while trading Melo. That's beyond stupid. We. Do. Not. Want. Anderson. UNLESS we are getting back multiple first round picks and other assets.

Good for you. Go back to my post and find where I said you did.

Someone said something incorrect (Anderson shot poorly) and I was correcting him. That doesn't make you want him on your team any more, that's fine. Just correcting the mistake.

BrOnXKing1 · Post #732 » by **BrOnXKing1** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 3:15 pm

putiger78 wrote:Ryan Anderson is not an asset... he is a major liability. He is a guy with a injury history whose only real asset is his shooting and he shot miserably last year and makes close to $20MM a year. He's not quite a Noah contract but he is approaching that realm.

Teams were asking two firsts just to take his contract in a salary dump... to give them Melo? If they want to give us Anderson we should ask for two firsts and another asset. We don't HAVE to do a deal.

If Anderson is best we can do, than we should buy Melo out. But at the end of day, Melo should be able net you something, his contract looks decent compared to what other players are getting

Knicks93 · Post #733 » by **Knicks93** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 3:16 pm

Only way I can see a trade with the Rockets going down is if they include Eric Gordon and Trevor Ariza instead of Ryan Anderson. Its mostly the only other way salary's can match up. Knicks are better off eating Melo's contract and coming to an agreement where he opts out of next year instead of taking on Anderson's awful contract. If they want to get rid of Anderson they can take back Noah. Anderson is a good shooter but he brings nothing else to a team, and we already have too many bigs to be taking him back for 3 years $61 mil.

Post #734 » by **Jeff Van Gully** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 3:20 pm

okay morey. i send you carmelo... i take ryan anderson off your books. i want 2 1st rounders. thanks.

nope... not next year's. 2020 and 2021.

louieOrr · Post #735 » by **louieOrr** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 3:21 pm

Melo has leverage but so do the Knicks. If we don't get viable assets in a trade he goes no where. Have a sit down with Melo and play the Marbury Vaseline video. I would rather we keep him on the bench or suspend him if he becomes a locker room malcontent. He gets no buyout unless HE pays for it. Fuq that!

Edit: forget the buyout period. It still counts on our cap and we gain nothing. This is not an addition by subtraction scenario. This is an NBA star and contending team trying to fleece us.

Post #736 » by **Jeff Van Gully** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 3:21 pm

Knicks93 wrote:Only way I can see a trade with the Rockets going down is if they include Eric Gordon and Trevor Ariza instead of Ryan Anderson. Its mostly the only other way salary's can match up. Knicks are better off eating Melo's contract and coming to an agreement where he opts out of next year instead of taking on Anderson's awful contract. If they want to get rid of Anderson they can take back Noah. Anderson is a good shooter but he brings nothing else to a team, and we already have too many bigs to be taking him back for 3 years $61 mil.

they're not trading gordon or ariza, i don't think. i'll eat ryan anderson's salary for 2 first rounders after this thing blows up and they suck again.

if they don't want to include picks, then sure. give me gordon and ariza. i'll flip them both like a bag of weed.

NOOB77 · Post #737 » by **NOOB77** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 3:21 pm

Knicks93 wrote:Only way I can see a trade with the Rockets going down is if they include Eric Gordon and Trevor Ariza instead of Ryan Anderson. Its mostly the only other way salary's can match up. Knicks are better off eating Melo's contract and coming to an agreement where he opts out of next year instead of taking on Anderson's awful contract. If they want to get rid of Anderson they can take back Noah. Anderson is a good shooter but he brings nothing else to a team, and we already have too many bigs to be taking him back for 3 years $61 mil.

That isn't going to happen it will be Anderson + NCG + Hartenstein + Future Pick..... They will not trade him both teams will probably call the Knicks bluff and wait for buyout

NOOB77 · Post #738 » by **NOOB77** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 3:23 pm

The NCG will open up about 6 mil cap which will open up the money to give Hill a 20 mil contract.

Fat · Post #739 » by **Fat** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 3:23 pm

melo wants rockets but do the rockets actually want melo? cavs would seem a more likely destination

Billy Goat · Post #740 » by **Billy Goat** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 3:23 pm

BrOnXKing1 wrote:
putiger78 wrote:Ryan Anderson is not an asset... he is a major liability. He is a guy with a injury history whose only real asset is his shooting and he shot miserably last year and makes close to $20MM a year. He's not quite a Noah contract but he is approaching that realm.

Teams were asking two firsts just to take his contract in a salary dump... to give them Melo? If they want to give us Anderson we should ask for two firsts and another asset. We don't HAVE to do a deal.

If Anderson is best we can do, than we should buy Melo out. But at the end of day, Melo should be able net you something, his contract looks decent compared to what other players are getting

agreed he should. Issue is his value is on his terms because of the clause.

Should Melo Be Traded