2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2

[cgf]

I get easing Ziaire back in after Delaire stepped up during his absence, but Stanford's starters have been consistently digging them into holes these past few games.

Ziaire & Davis come in and immediately get stanford back into it. Love watching this kid defend on the perimeter; with him & Mitch swatting 3s left & right, our defense would just be insane.

[3toheadmelo]

No arguments there. Bouknight is right behind the top 5; the tennessee kids are fighting to crack the top 10.

Interestingly enough, DX has Bouknight at #11 in their mock draft, Keon at #6 and Wasserman has both Tennesse kids in his top 10 for his draft board with Bouknight at #11

Are the injuries issues worse than they seem? Unless he's just awful off the court, that's the only other explanation I can think of for having Bouknight that low.

Scouts have asked whether Bouknight projects as a point guard or simply a scorer, given his mere 1.7 assists per game. But based on his role as No. 1 option, 6'5" size for both backcourt spots and creativity with the ball, scouts don't sound likely to downgrade Bouknight due to questions about his NBA position.

To me he’s someone like Lavine. Mostly a scorer but can playmake also. I was impressed with some of his passes today, although his team mates missed shots that killed his assists.

[cgf]

Interestingly enough, DX has Bouknight at #11 in their mock draft, Keon at #6 and Wasserman has both Tennesse kids in his top 10 for his draft board with Bouknight at #11

Are the injuries issues worse than they seem? Unless he's just awful off the court, that's the only other explanation I can think of for having Bouknight that low.

Scouts have asked whether Bouknight projects as a point guard or simply a scorer, given his mere 1.7 assists per game. But based on his role as No. 1 option, 6'5" size for both backcourt spots and creativity with the ball, scouts don't sound likely to downgrade Bouknight due to questions about his NBA position.

To me he’s someone like Lavine. Mostly a scorer but can playmake also. I was impressed with some of his passes today, although his team mates missed shots that killed his assists.

Don't think that's enough to justify having him outside the top 10. I don't rate him much as a playmaker either, but the kid could be the next Mitchell/Booker if he stays healthy.

[jvsimonetti0514]

If we can’t get into the top 5, a Bouknight and Ayo draft would be the dream scenario

[cgf]

I'm taking Butler over Ayo 10 times out of 10. Trust his shooting & penetration to translate way more.

[TerrenceClarke]

Paying attention to what Mocks have are becoming pointless, especially way ahead of the combine etc when the more concrete perception of prospects happen. Drafting is moving towards a tiering system anyway. JB will be guaranteed to be in the top 10 barring injury. Its clearly Obvious the package that he is, warrants top 10. An Athletic three level scorer is a PREMIUM in the NBA, He has NBA Skills right now. Not Tomorrow, but Today. These mocks are way to up in down to even give them much value this early in the process.

[robillionaire]

Just got the news that we will be selecting Isaiah Jackson

[3toheadmelo]

Paying attention to what Mocks have are becoming pointless, especially way ahead of the combine etc when the more concrete perception of prospects happen. Drafting is moving towards a tiering system anyway. JB will be guaranteed to be in the top 10 barring injury. Its clearly Obvious the package that he is, warrants top 10. An Athletic three level scorer is a PREMIUM in the NBA, He has NBA Skills right now. Not Tomorrow, but Today. These mocks are way to up in down to even give them much value this early in the process.

People here swore that Hayes was a top 4 pick for those same reasons though. Haliburton is also a 3 and D guard with playmaking skills which is in high demand, but yet he fell out of the top 10. So you never know. I don’t think it’s a guarantee at all that Bouknight is going top 10. I think he should, but teams might not see that.

[cgf]

Paying attention to what Mocks have are becoming pointless, especially way ahead of the combine etc when the more concrete perception of prospects happen. Drafting is moving towards a tiering system anyway. JB will be guaranteed to be in the top 10 barring injury. Its clearly Obvious the package that he is, warrants top 10. An Athletic three level scorer is a PREMIUM in the NBA, He has NBA Skills right now. Not Tomorrow, but Today. These mocks are way to up in down to even give them much value this early in the process.

People here swore that Hayes was a top 4 pick for those same reasons though. Haliburton is also a 3 and D guard with playmaking skills which is in high demand, but yet he fell out of the top 10. So you never know. I don’t think it’s a guarantee at all that Bouknight is going top 10. I think he should, but teams might not see that.

Yeah, after the top tier draft boards start to vary wildly. All it takes is the teams who like him getting someone they like even more, and he could slide.

But it would be even sillier if he did than when Mitchell & Booker fell out of the top 10.

[2010]

Tbh the mocks don’t matter until after the lottery is drawn. The picture can’t become clear until it’s determined where teams will be picking.

[TerrenceClarke]

Paying attention to what Mocks have are becoming pointless, especially way ahead of the combine etc when the more concrete perception of prospects happen. Drafting is moving towards a tiering system anyway. JB will be guaranteed to be in the top 10 barring injury. Its clearly Obvious the package that he is, warrants top 10. An Athletic three level scorer is a PREMIUM in the NBA, He has NBA Skills right now. Not Tomorrow, but Today. These mocks are way to up in down to even give them much value this early in the process.

People here swore that Hayes was a top 4 pick for those same reasons though. Haliburton is also a 3 and D guard with playmaking skills which is in high demand, but yet he fell out of the top 10. So you never know. I don’t think it’s a guarantee at all that Bouknight is going top 10. I think he should, but teams might not see that.

I wouldn't care much about what people think here tho in the grand scheme of things. Anyone thinking Hayes was top 4 was TRIPPING. Point Blank Period . Its also the same people here who laughed at Chicago for taking P Williams that high. Hali had a funky shot is why he dropped. Thats the ONLY reason. JB has a sweet stroke. There is no flag for him to fall like Hali did.


What is a MocK draft in February?

Spoiler:

Clicks for a Website....nothing more nothing less. Wasserman does a new mock like every 3 weeks.

JB is top 10. I would be the farm on that.

[TerrenceClarke]

Tbh the mocks don’t matter until after the lottery is drawn. The picture can’t become clear until it’s determined where teams will be picking.

Thats a dinner plate sized Snapple fact.

[2010]

I’m watching the UCONN / Villanova game now. There is no way Bouknight makes it out of the top 10.

[3toheadmelo]

I’m watching the UCONN / Villanova game now. There is no way Bouknight makes it out of the top 10.

Wait till you get to the second half

[TerrenceClarke]

I’m watching the UCONN / Villanova game now. There is no way Bouknight makes it out of the top 10.

Wait till you get to the second half

You think a bad second half Knocks him out the top 10? Come now bro you know better than that. The only thing that would hurt himself is a string of bad games not a bad half. If that’s the case Mobley shouldn’t even be top five since he had some bad games. His season stats is all you need to know about what his Consistent Game is like. That’s what scouts would pay attention to not a bad half.

[3toheadmelo]

I’m watching the UCONN / Villanova game now. There is no way Bouknight makes it out of the top 10.

Wait till you get to the second half

You think a bad second half Knocks him out the top 10? Come now bro you know better than that. The only thing that would hurt himself is a string of bad games not a bad half. If that’s the case Mobley shouldn’t even be top five since he had some bad games. His season stats is all you need to know about what his Consistent Game is like. That’s what scouts would pay attention to not a bad half.

Some scouts be overthinking schit tho

[2010]

I’m watching the UCONN / Villanova game now. There is no way Bouknight makes it out of the top 10.

Wait till you get to the second half

2nd half don’t matter. He clearly reaggravated the elbow injury he had surgery on. I’ve seen all I need to see. Defenders can’t keep him in front of them. He can shoot the 3 or shoot off the dribble. And he is a tough shot maker. This dude is just gonna be a pro level scorer. He is a decent passer too and he is an underrated rebounder.

If he slips out the top 10 some GMs are gonna end up getting fired.

[2010]

Bouknight from NY too. He’ll value that NY across his chest and respect putting on the jersey. You know he’ll be tough.

[3toheadmelo]

I’m watching the UCONN / Villanova game now. There is no way Bouknight makes it out of the top 10.

Wait till you get to the second half

2nd half don’t matter. He clearly reaggravated the elbow injury he had surgery on. I’ve seen all I need to see. Defenders can’t keep him in front of them. He can shoot the 3 or shoot off the dribble. And he is a tough shot maker. This dude is just gonna be a pro level scorer. He is a decent passer too and he is an underrated rebounder.

If he slips out the top 10 some GMs are gonna end up getting fired.

Yeah he hurt himself again and started struggling.
I’m glad you pointed out that he’s a decent passer too. I was saying the same thing. He’s low key similar to Lavine.

Hopefully there’s some dumb GM’s overthinking it and let’s him slip out of the top 10 for us.

[2010]

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