PG: Out of our Misery

[Iron Mantis]

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Agenda mongers lie...but the numbers don't lie.

[GONYK]

This is absolutely not OK. It's offensive and hits below the belt when it comes to discussing this team.

Keep things respectful and always remember there are human beings on the other side of these interactions.

[ctorres]

And we would also need to acquire another C that can defend.

DeAndre Ayton?

[mpharris36]

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Agenda mongers lie...but the numbers don't lie.

Listen if someones point is we have seen now a bunch of games with Brunson and KAT where the offense is not as good as we expected to counter act the bad defense between them then yes I can understand potentially moving KAT because Brunson (rightfully so) is going nowhere.

If you also believe Thibs is safely planted as the HC for the foreseeable future I could also understand wanting to move KAT because Thibs is a stubborn mule that typically doesn't adapt his defense.

No doubt KAT certainly goes rogue on defense. And that is infuriating but most of the metrics say he was our best player all year. So just wanting to move him because he sucks. Is just trolling.

[LFGK]

How long have the top 8 teams in the nba been together? I bet the Knicks have been together the shortest period, it will take some time, they will get KAT to be ddcent(in better shape) they team has to play together as a whole long enough to understand what they have to do and what not, Minnesota got to a WCF with KAT and had the best D in the game lol. The Knicks with Brunson had a great D before this season, the team needs 2 guys on the bench and more cohesion role wasn't built in a fcking day, everyone wants a title year one of the squad together or to blow it up it's nuts.

[Fury]

Our defensive rating last year in the playoffs was 120.6

Our defensive rating this year in the playoffs was 113.2



But facts right?

I know people love last year’s team and they may have made the finals but they didn’t and their offense depended on a lot of offensive rebounding. It wasn’t sustainable and the defense wasn’t better. We had some high scoring games.

[god shammgod]

Do his teammates who are complaining to the press about him also having an agenda ?

[LFGK]

-Divo
-B Brown
-P Mills

For the bench

[mpharris36]

Do his teammates who are complaining to the press about him also having an agenda ?

I just have to find out more information because what teammate/teammates are doing the complaining?

That is not something Brunson would do to the media. He even was extremely complimentary of KAT in the post game.

So who was it? Hart? Better not be dude was getting beat back door and turning the ball over all series.

Maybe it was Mikal and OG since they have to do much of the defensive work to make up for KAt and Brunson.

Doesn't sound like Mitch. He doesn't want to spend any time talking to the media.

I wouldn't think any bench player is prominent enough to talk.

Clearly we saw him going rogue a lot but isn't that on the coaching to correct that. You call a timeout point out his mistakes and correct them. And if they continue you take him out?

With all that said he still posted our best plus/minus in regular season and playoffs so he keeps **** up but they win his minutes?

[spree8]

Jalen wants to run it back with the same core, and wants Thibs back. Knowing how Leon moves, it’s likely what’s going to happen.

Probably just make some marginal moves/signings like ring-chasing vets.

Just hope Thibs takes these playoff adjustments into next season starting opening night.

[MrDollarBills]

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Agenda mongers lie...but the numbers don't lie.

Karl was our best player in this series by far.

That being said....I don't think this is gonna work unless there's a way to account for the fact that he and Jalen can't play together

[GONYK]

Do his teammates who are complaining to the press about him also having an agenda ?

I just have to find out more information because what teammate/teammates are doing the complaining?

That is not something Brunson would do to the media. He even was extremely complimentary of KAT in the post game.

So who was it? Hart? Better not be dude was getting beat back door and turning the ball over all series.

Maybe it was Mikal and OG since they have to do much of the defensive work to make up for KAt and Brunson.

Doesn't sound like Mitch. He doesn't want to spend any time talking to the media.

I wouldn't think any bench player is prominent enough to talk.

Clearly we saw him going rogue a lot but isn't that on the coaching to correct that. You call a timeout point out his mistakes and correct them. And if they continue you take him out?

With all that said he still posted our best plus/minus in regular season and playoffs so he keeps **** up but they win his minutes?

Coaches talk too

[dakomish23]

KAT with 22 & 14 on 8-19 in his worst game of the series.

Trying to put this on him, after he was the one starter who won his matchup this series, shows just how stupid this board can be at times.

Sorry, I'm playing drop coverage on your post.

Nah it’s you making another dumb pass, turning it over, they score again, and you want to blame anything but that happening consistently. It’s what lazy ppl do

[Im Coming Home]

Sprinkling in a little bit of homophobia to add to the long list of things that make you a bad person?

I'm very troubled by the original post. It was made clear that this kind of behavior wasn't acceptable, and the result was a suspension for a first offense. Given that everybody understands the position of the board on this, to do a discredited meme about KAT (and bring **** about one of our players) to this thread is really out of bounds. This has got to stop. How?

It’s a meme that went viral last night. Twitter does it to everyone when they play bad, which apparently you aren’t aware of. I’m assuming you probably don’t even know how to operate Twitter. Stop trying to back seat moderate and falsely accuse people of homophobia.

You're not spinning this one. KAT isn't only dressed as a McD worker he's also done up as a woman with long nails, makeup, etc. This is homophobic and nobody believes you when you claim it's not. You are not innocent and pretending to be will not save you from criticism because nobody believes you because you're always lying.

Also pointing out that action needs to be taken and mods aren't doing it isn't backseat moderating. Mods needs to do their jobs you're on your 756th 'last warning'

the backseat moderating has to stop. -JVG

[koogiking]

Jalen Brunson Hero Ball had a bigger negative effect than KAT in my opinion. KAT was our best player easily

[MrDollarBills]

And we would also need to acquire another C that can defend.

DeAndre Ayton?

I was thinking about a cheaper option.

[Iron Mantis]

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Agenda mongers lie...but the numbers don't lie.

Listen if someones point is we have seen now a bunch of games with Brunson and KAT where the offense is not as good as we expected to counter act the bad defense between them then yes I can understand potentially moving KAT because Brunson (rightfully so) is going nowhere.

If you also believe Thibs is safely planted as the HC for the foreseeable future I could also understand wanting to move KAT because Thibs is a stubborn mule that typically doesn't adapt his defense.

No doubt KAT certainly goes rogue on defense. And that is infuriating but most of the metrics say he was our best player all year. So just wanting to move him because he sucks. Is just trolling.

Brazen trolling.....too bad it persists.

KAT is a great talent overall, and we wouldn't have made it to the ECF without him. But the FO has the job of getting us championships ...so if KAT can get us a player who is a clear upgrade...like Giannis?? That needs to happen. In fact anyone can go for a roster upgrade. Only Brunson is untouchable, unless we are getting Ant man, Tatum, or Joker in return.

Even then, it doesn't seem we have the assets to win a bidding war for superstars.

[DaGawd]

i’m officially on giannis antentokunmpo watch

[MrDollarBills]

Jalen wants to run it back with the same core, and wants Thibs back. Knowing how Leon moves, it’s likely what’s going to happen.

Probably just make some marginal moves/signings like ring-chasing vets.

Just hope Thibs takes these playoff adjustments into next season starting opening night.

It was refreshing to hear JB give everyone the vote of confidence.

Unless Thibs figures something out though I can't justify playing Karl and him together defensively though.

Maybe we need to look at how Malone managed to win with Murray and Joker. How did they cover for the lack of D?

[RHODEY]

i’m officially on giannis antentokunmpo watch

Watch him go to another team