Around the nba part 7

[Thugger HBC]

I don't mean to start a ****, but it's a shame we let Lin walk, we're quite good this year, and Lin is better than Felton. We could have been even better.

We'd be even worse with a young, developing inexperienced PG on a win now type of team. We'd be much worse future wise with Jeremy Lin's insane contract on our books. Who would you take, Jeremy Lin or J.R Smith, Novak and Iman Shumpert? Exactly. Because with an overpaid Lin on our roster we'd have no chance to extend both of J.R Smith and Steve Novak along with matching Shumpert's team option of $2,761,113 come 2014/2015.

We wouldn't be worse, but Lin would be in James White's role.

The team as we see it was gonna happen regardless, it wouldn't have been Lin or Felton.

Felton signed on thinking Lin would have been here too.

Just like Kidd and Pablo.

Lin would have been bench insurance, not a bad piece to mentor and learn the position.

[kakaman]

I don't mean to start a ****, but it's a shame we let Lin walk, we're quite good this year, and Lin is better than Felton. We could have been even better.

We'd be even worse with a young, developing inexperienced PG on a win now type of team. We'd be much worse future wise with Jeremy Lin's insane contract on our books. Who would you take, Jeremy Lin or J.R Smith, Novak and Iman Shumpert? Exactly. Because with an overpaid Lin on our roster we'd have no chance to extend both of J.R Smith and Steve Novak along with matching Shumpert's team option of $2,761,113 come 2014/2015.

I don't think JR will be on NY next season...he's probably looking for 8-10m/yr

[NYKMentality85]

Can anyone explain how we'd have a chance to extend J.R Smith this offseason along with matching Shumpert's team option of $2,761,113 come 2014/2015 not to forget the fact we've already extended Novak if Lin's contract were still on our books? That's what I'd like to know...

[Thugger HBC]

Long missed jumper equals a dunk on Denver's end.

[Knicks_Fan2]

We wouldn't be worse, but Lin would be in James White's role.

The team as we see it was gonna happen regardless, it wouldn't have been Lin or Felton.

Felton signed on thinking Lin would have been here too.

Just like Kidd and Pablo.

Lin would have been bench insurance, not a bad piece to mentor and learn the position.

Coming off of last year, there is no way Lin would just be bench insurance. The city--and the media--would've gone into full revolt. I firmly believe we are better off chemistry wise this way. It would've been Lin+the fans v. the rest of the Knicks.

[Getouttahea22]

what did Iggy just do?

it wasn't the "play of the year".

Mmmmhmmm that sounded a bit like hyperbole. Then again I haven't watched a lot of Nuggets games, so maybe that's the "play of the year" for them cuz they're just really boring?

[Thugger HBC]

We wouldn't be worse, but Lin would be in James White's role.

The team as we see it was gonna happen regardless, it wouldn't have been Lin or Felton.

Felton signed on thinking Lin would have been here too.

Just like Kidd and Pablo.

Lin would have been bench insurance, not a bad piece to mentor and learn the position.

Coming off of last year, there is no way Lin would just be bench insurance. The city--and the media--would've gone into full revolt. I firmly believe we are better off chemistry wise this way. It would've been Lin+the fans v. the rest of the Knicks.

Agreed, although we still have that now.

[Thugger HBC]

Can anyone explain how we'd have a chance to extend J.R Smith this offseason along with matching Shumpert's team option of $2,761,113 come 2014/2015 not to forget the fact we've already extended Novak if Lin's contract were still on our books? That's what I'd like to know...

We already had a thread on this, i explained it already.

[Knicks_Fan2]

Agreed, although we still have that now.

touche

[Getouttahea22]

Houston looks worn out, that might be game.

[Thugger HBC]

Denver is a very good team, but that mile high is a huge advantage.

the Rockets are literally gasping for air.

[Getouttahea22]

Denver is a very good team, but that mile high is a huge advantage.

the Rockets are literally gasping for air.

They played late last night against Portland too. Schedule has not been particularly nice to them. And the run run run style is a big factor too I suspect. Exciting game though.

[GettinitDone]

Thugger, I wouldn't be shocked if people think Lin is gonna have a solid career, instead of all star.

EVERYONE thought Steve Nash and Billups in their first 4-5 years a scrub. I mean Jeremy Lin now looks like MJ compared to them, and we know both of them (Nash/ Billups) are likely HOFs. It gives us Lin fans NOT conviction that Lin will be a superstar, but it gives us HOPE.

I mean a player averaging 13ppg and 6apg in his first 110 games (when Nash, Billups, Rondo, Deron could only dream having those averages in their first 110 games) and you somehow have "conviction" that this is his ceiling and he's going to be just solid? Solid is for Mario Chalmerses, aka the guys who wouldn't drop 38pts against a great defensive team like Spurs by himself when the Big 3 are not playing anytime soon. For a guy who always gives 100% on the floor, 110% in the gym, already notorious for his work ethic, for a guy who has unteachables: high game IQ, vision, speed, clutch gene and overall feel for the game?

Believe that he's solid, that's fine. We Lin fans believe he's gonna be All Star, and that's fine too. Just don't shove it up each other's asses whenever someone brings up his name.

Can anyone explain how we'd have a chance to extend J.R Smith this offseason along with matching Shumpert's team option of $2,761,113 come 2014/2015 not to forget the fact we've already extended Novak if Lin's contract were still on our books? That's what I'd like to know...

Lin and Novak were granted early Bird's rights. Signing both wouldn't disable us to sign JR and Shump.

[Dudedude88]

back to back game they stand no chance. Denver are like Houston rockets on steroids. this is probably most running i've ever seen. transition after transition. Rockets were shooting on tired legs.

[kakaman]

Denver is a very good team, but that mile high is a huge advantage.

the Rockets are literally gasping for air.

They played late last night against Portland too. Schedule has not been particularly nice to them. And the run run run style is a big factor too I suspect. Exciting game though.

Meh, I don't think Houston really has a shot vs Denver. I think Denver's won all the games vs. Houston. They are basically a superior version of Houston.

[Knicks_Fan2]

Can anyone explain how we'd have a chance to extend J.R Smith this offseason along with matching Shumpert's team option of $2,761,113 come 2014/2015 not to forget the fact we've already extended Novak if Lin's contract were still on our books? That's what I'd like to know...

It starts with understanding that we were already over the cap meaning we could only sign players--and can only sign players--using any one of the enumerated exceptions to the salary cap. The only way you are hard capped (unable to use any of the enumerated exceptions) is if you use the non-taxpayer full MLE which then caps you at a designated amount (see Chicago signing Hinrich). Because we were granted early bird rights for Lin and Novak, we were able to sign them using those EXCEPTIONS and we would not be hard capped. We signed Novak using this exception and decided not to match Lin. Matching Lin would have ZERO effect on our ability to extend JR using our early bird rights on him or using any other exceptions that will be available to us this offseason.

The only restriction Lin's deal could possibly have imposed on us is if Dolan et al have an internal salary/tax budget that they refuse to exceed given the penalties in the new CBA. None of us know if that's true.

[Getouttahea22]

Timofey Mozgov sighting!

He look a little heavy to anyone?

[Thugger HBC]

Thugger, I wouldn't be shocked if people think Lin is gonna have a solid career, instead of all star.

EVERYONE thought Steve Nash and Billups in their first 4-5 years a scrub. I mean Jeremy Lin now looks like MJ compared to them, and we know both of them (Nash/ Billups) are likely HOFs. It gives us Lin fans NOT conviction that Lin will be a superstar, but it gives us HOPE.

I mean a player averaging 13ppg and 6apg in his first 110 games (when Nash, Billups, Rondo, Deron could only dream having those averages in their first 110 games) and you somehow have "conviction" that this is his ceiling and he's going to be just solid? Solid is for Mario Chalmerses, aka the guys who wouldn't drop 38pts against a great defensive team like Spurs by himself when the Big 3 are not playing anytime soon. For a guy who always gives 100% on the floor, 110% in the gym, already notorious for his work ethic, for a guy who has unteachables: high game IQ, vision, speed, clutch gene and overall feel for the game?

Believe that he's solid, that's fine. We Lin fans believe he's gonna be All Star, and that's fine too. Just don't shove it up each other's asses whenever someone brings up his name.

Can anyone explain how we'd have a chance to extend J.R Smith this offseason along with matching Shumpert's team option of $2,761,113 come 2014/2015 not to forget the fact we've already extended Novak if Lin's contract were still on our books? That's what I'd like to know...

Lin and Novak were granted early Bird's rights. Signing both wouldn't disable us to sign JR and Shump.

Please stay away from sharp object in about 2 years.

[johnnywishbone]

What's up with Wilson Chandler starting off the game, playing 9 minutes thus far into the 2nd quarter but yet only has 0 points and 1 assist? I don't think he's cut out for the role of an NBA starter... And thinking of ex Knicks, Anthony Randolph has done complete nothingness with his 6 minutes while Mozgov has yet to enter the game Jeremy Lin is having a very, very good game though.

You are always chomping at the bit.

21/6/3 +21

[K_ick_God]

Pacers in trouble now.