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Dr. Detfink wrote:I think Mitchell Robinson will go through what many rookie big men go through...that is picking up quick fouls. What's his free throw percentage, anyone know?
“But how can we get him a confidence that ‘I can go play in the NBA game right now’ because I can hang my hat on this. Right now it’s his athleticism. Getting him to run the floor every time. Getting him to screen at the right angle and to get to the rim with speed every single time. Getting him to be in a stance on every pick-and-roll. Being able to switch on that pick-and-roll and protect the rim. Those little areas, can we make him great at that.”
And Fizdale adds: “He is a fun project. I’ll tell you that.”
K P 6 wrote:“But how can we get him a confidence that ‘I can go play in the NBA game right now’ because I can hang my hat on this. Right now it’s his athleticism. Getting him to run the floor every time. Getting him to screen at the right angle and to get to the rim with speed every single time. Getting him to be in a stance on every pick-and-roll. Being able to switch on that pick-and-roll and protect the rim. Those little areas, can we make him great at that.”
And Fizdale adds: “He is a fun project. I’ll tell you that.”
Crazy how this guy Fiz just gets it. He's our savior. He even understands he has to make him take advantage at what he's god at first.
Capn'O wrote:K P 6 wrote:“But how can we get him a confidence that ‘I can go play in the NBA game right now’ because I can hang my hat on this. Right now it’s his athleticism. Getting him to run the floor every time. Getting him to screen at the right angle and to get to the rim with speed every single time. Getting him to be in a stance on every pick-and-roll. Being able to switch on that pick-and-roll and protect the rim. Those little areas, can we make him great at that.”
And Fizdale adds: “He is a fun project. I’ll tell you that.”
Crazy how this guy Fiz just gets it. He's our savior. He even understands he has to make him take advantage at what he's god at first.
He articulates what he's going to do very well. I'm not convinced that Jeff wasn't doing a lot of the same stuff (he had a reputation as a game tape buff from Phoenix) but he certainly wasn't clearly communicating what he was doing with his public comments. I have to think that the communication lapses spilled over to his private dealings with the team as well, causing confusion on what goals were. A lot of players spoke of that. Hard to hold people accountable to unclear goals.
Off the bat, that's something I can easily say for Fiz.
Jeff Van Gully wrote:Capn'O wrote:K P 6 wrote:
Crazy how this guy Fiz just gets it. He's our savior. He even understands he has to make him take advantage at what he's god at first.
He articulates what he's going to do very well. I'm not convinced that Jeff wasn't doing a lot of the same stuff (he had a reputation as a game tape buff from Phoenix) but he certainly wasn't clearly communicating what he was doing with his public comments. I have to think that the communication lapses spilled over to his private dealings with the team as well, causing confusion on what goals were. A lot of players spoke of that. Hard to hold people accountable to unclear goals.
Off the bat, that's something I can easily say for Fiz.
i think jeff was a poor communicator to the players as well. that's the only explanation i can think of for losing the team in PHX when he basically had them turned around. i guess the knicks got his weaknesses as well.
K P 6 wrote:Jeff Van Gully wrote:Capn'O wrote:
He articulates what he's going to do very well. I'm not convinced that Jeff wasn't doing a lot of the same stuff (he had a reputation as a game tape buff from Phoenix) but he certainly wasn't clearly communicating what he was doing with his public comments. I have to think that the communication lapses spilled over to his private dealings with the team as well, causing confusion on what goals were. A lot of players spoke of that. Hard to hold people accountable to unclear goals.
Off the bat, that's something I can easily say for Fiz.
i think jeff was a poor communicator to the players as well. that's the only explanation i can think of for losing the team in PHX when he basically had them turned around. i guess the knicks got his weaknesses as well.
I could go in on Horny all day. Fiz even if its just a tactic to give Frank confidence he said he would of started him last year. Jeff never gave Frank that kind of confidence or approval. All Jeff kept talking about was basically politics in terms of having the vets play/start over rookies.
Capn'O wrote:K P 6 wrote:Jeff Van Gully wrote:
i think jeff was a poor communicator to the players as well. that's the only explanation i can think of for losing the team in PHX when he basically had them turned around. i guess the knicks got his weaknesses as well.
I could go in on Horny all day. Fiz even if its just a tactic to give Frank confidence he said he would of started him last year. Jeff never gave Frank that kind of confidence or approval. All Jeff kept talking about was basically politics in terms of having the vets play/start over rookies.
Totally agree there. Him thinking that weird political stuff was going to somehow help him was absolutely his undoing. He actually did take the Jack Joke too far. Fiz sounds like he'll go merit based as best he can.
NY2TheBay wrote:Look forward to seeing where he is at amongst the SL competition. This has a chance to be something nice. Fits todays 5 very well.
Jeff Van Gully wrote:NY2TheBay wrote:Look forward to seeing where he is at amongst the SL competition. This has a chance to be something nice. Fits todays 5 very well.
i am extremely excited about our rooks. more so than anytime i can recall. if mitchell robinson pans out, we bout to be litty. he should be a steal. lakers should have just bit that bullet instead of getting cute thinking he was coming back to 39.
at least it wasn't us holding the bag this time.
Capn'O wrote:K P 6 wrote:“But how can we get him a confidence that ‘I can go play in the NBA game right now’ because I can hang my hat on this. Right now it’s his athleticism. Getting him to run the floor every time. Getting him to screen at the right angle and to get to the rim with speed every single time. Getting him to be in a stance on every pick-and-roll. Being able to switch on that pick-and-roll and protect the rim. Those little areas, can we make him great at that.”
And Fizdale adds: “He is a fun project. I’ll tell you that.”
Crazy how this guy Fiz just gets it. He's our savior. He even understands he has to make him take advantage at what he's god at first.
He articulates what he's going to do very well. I'm not convinced that Jeff wasn't doing a lot of the same stuff (he had a reputation as a game tape buff from Phoenix) but he certainly wasn't clearly communicating what he was doing with his public comments. I have to think that the communication lapses spilled over to his private dealings with the team as well, causing confusion on what goals were. A lot of players spoke of that. Hard to hold people accountable to unclear goals.
Off the bat, that's something I can easily say for Fiz.
K P 6 wrote:Capn'O wrote:K P 6 wrote:I could go in on Horny all day. Fiz even if its just a tactic to give Frank confidence he said he would of started him last year. Jeff never gave Frank that kind of confidence or approval. All Jeff kept talking about was basically politics in terms of having the vets play/start over rookies.
Totally agree there. Him thinking that weird political stuff was going to somehow help him was absolutely his undoing. He actually did take the Jack Joke too far. Fiz sounds like he'll go merit based as best he can.
Jack got us going, I get it. However Jeff's inability to see how Jack's D was killing us was horrendous. Then he always sat KP when Frank came in and them together was the best 2 man combo in the league I believe. If not the league on the team but the numbers were staggering because Frank always found KP in good positions and Frank and KP led the defense.
fatalogic wrote:Capn'O wrote:K P 6 wrote:
Crazy how this guy Fiz just gets it. He's our savior. He even understands he has to make him take advantage at what he's god at first.
He articulates what he's going to do very well. I'm not convinced that Jeff wasn't doing a lot of the same stuff (he had a reputation as a game tape buff from Phoenix) but he certainly wasn't clearly communicating what he was doing with his public comments. I have to think that the communication lapses spilled over to his private dealings with the team as well, causing confusion on what goals were. A lot of players spoke of that. Hard to hold people accountable to unclear goals.
Off the bat, that's something I can easily say for Fiz.
Jeff wasn’t in the gym with young guys everyday this early in the off season. I’m pretty sure there is a quote where be basically said offseason development is on the players. I think you can even see from the comments of the players that Fitz I doing something very different. Remains to be seen if that difference will be shown on the court.
