Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides

[newyorker4ever]

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i mean I would hate it because we literally have zero perimeter defense but I guess I would understand with the complete glut of guards we have someone isn't going to be playing.

Would rather trade DSJ with Payton and we would get more return in theory for DSJ than Frank...but at this point what is Orlando going to give us? A 2nd round pick? We don't need the cap space...would seem silly to me.

If the Magic get him then he's gonna get his playing time cause S.Clifford is all about defense and he will get the best out of Frank. Just him getting out of this big market and to Orlando i think will help. If the Magic and Clifford get Frank then this could turn very sad for any of us that are still Frank fans like me.

[Cookies4Life]

He's arguably our best perimeter defender and one of the few guys that actually plays the game the right way. No one ever complains about his shot selection, it's more about his confidence and being able to get enough FGA's to gain some consistency. Hard to do that when you put up 4 shots one game followed by 7 the next and than a DNP.

I guess if it's for someone like Fultz, I'd be ok with it. Definitely not for a 2nd round pick. He was the 8th overall pick 2 years ago, wasn't going to drop further than 9 (Mavs,) and to get a 2nd rounder back would be selling extremely low on him.

At least with Fultz there's a chance he can pan out into something, I wouldn't write him off just yet.

[newyorker4ever]

The Orlando Longboiis. I would like to see Frank, Isaac, and Bamba play together.

The player i would want and would give up much more then just Frank for would be J.Isaac who i love but we're more than set at PF now so no way i see us getting him and don't think the Magic and Clifford would even think about trading him anyway.

[F N 11]

It's annoying how some of you say Ntilikina didn't get a chance. He got over 20 mpg and he's been one of the biggest busts in NYK history. Truthfully he didn't earn or deserve those minutes and only got them cause that idiot Phil drafted him with the 8th pick.
Ntilikina has nobody to blame but himself. He hasn't been good. Simple as that.

He's not a bust. He came in as a project and is still a project. His defense alone warrants keeping him. on and off numbers dont lie when he played with KP.

[3toheadmelo]

Tbh its prob best for Frank to be traded somewhere else. I’m not sure how he can even crack the rotation now with all the moves we just made.

[F N 11]

This aint nba 2k. Guys like Frank are needed. Once we start getting beat every time down yall would start valuing what he did.

[BLACKFEET 2010]

I’ve never been one to fear trading a guy within the conference. With that said, there is NO WAY I trade Frank anywhere near the eastern conference.
I’m that scared of what he can do on defense.

[Cookies4Life]

I just don't like how contradictory our coaches are. They keep preaching defense yet they keep giving heavy minutes to guys who don't play an ounce of it, i.e. Mudiay and Knox.

Frank would've been better off taking 15 plus FGA's every game he played in because the coaching staff for some reason has an erection for guys who play aggressively on offense and just chuck up shots. Doesn't even matter how poor their shot selection is.

I like Knox and think he has potential, but what did he do well exactly last season? Poor shooter, poor efficiency, poor shot selection, very little passing and next to nothing defensively yet he saw 30 minutes nightly. Very odd coaching staff to put it nicely.

[F N 11]

He's arguably our best perimeter defender and one of the few guys that actually plays the game the right way. No one ever complains about his shot selection, it's more about his confidence and being able to get enough FGA's to gain some consistency. Hard to do that when you put up 4 shots one game followed by 7 the next and than a DNP.

I guess if it's for someone like Fultz, I'd be ok with it. Definitely not for a 2nd round pick. He was the 8th overall pick 2 years ago, wasn't going to drop further than 9 (Mavs,) and to get a 2nd rounder back would be selling extremely low on him.

At least with Fultz there's a chance he can pan out into something, I wouldn't write him off just yet.

trading him for Fultz makes 0 sense since we are trading him bc of a jam already.

[F N 11]

I’ve never been one to fear trading a guy within the conference. With that said, there is NO WAY I trade Frank anywhere near the eastern conference.
I’m that scared of what he can do on defense.

Nets guards were always shook of him. Teams have to set picks at half court against Frank.

[Cookies4Life]

He's arguably our best perimeter defender and one of the few guys that actually plays the game the right way. No one ever complains about his shot selection, it's more about his confidence and being able to get enough FGA's to gain some consistency. Hard to do that when you put up 4 shots one game followed by 7 the next and than a DNP.

I guess if it's for someone like Fultz, I'd be ok with it. Definitely not for a 2nd round pick. He was the 8th overall pick 2 years ago, wasn't going to drop further than 9 (Mavs,) and to get a 2nd rounder back would be selling extremely low on him.

At least with Fultz there's a chance he can pan out into something, I wouldn't write him off just yet.

trading him for Fultz makes 0 sense since we are trading him bc of a jam already.

I don't think they'd give us Isaac for him- another guy who isn't that good offensively but has shown he can be a good defender in this league. I also doubt they'd give us a first rounder for him so I'd imagine it would be Fultz or a second rounder.

At least Fultz can play the 1 or 2, I mean there was a reason he was selected with the 1st pick a few years ago. If this staff is so good at developing young talent than they should hopefully be able to bring Fultz around.

It's actually better there's a logjam in the backcourt, it could give Markelle ample time to come back slowly.

[F N 11]

I find it funny now that RJ is here Frank is expendable. Frank a 3 point shot away from being perfect next to RJ. But his game is boring so..

[Mecca]

Teams worse than the Knicks next year:
Charlotte
Cleveland - But I love Beilein and Garland
MAYBE Washington, but Beal is elite.

Realistically another top 4 pick is probable. Cole Anthony SZN

[newyorker4ever]

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Im only fine with this if we land an asset

Well we're not gonna juts give him to them for nothing so of course we're gonna get an asset, it's just that that asset will most likely only be a 2nd round pick. Maybe we can get two 2nd rounders out of them but can't see us getting any more then that for him. The biggest reason i would hate this is because i don't think Frank ever got a real shot from Fiz. He barely played him when he was healthy and then when Frank would have that rare good game he would start the next game on the bench and even when he did get in it would only be for 4-5 minutes in the 2nd half or something. I think Perry, Mills and Fiz gave up on Frank before they ever even gave him a chance and it's probably because he was a Phil Jackson draft pick which is stupid as ****.

[Mecca]

I wouldn’t trade Frank tbh. Especially not with his value so low and Orlando not having sexy prospects available.

[F N 11]

He's arguably our best perimeter defender and one of the few guys that actually plays the game the right way. No one ever complains about his shot selection, it's more about his confidence and being able to get enough FGA's to gain some consistency. Hard to do that when you put up 4 shots one game followed by 7 the next and than a DNP.

I guess if it's for someone like Fultz, I'd be ok with it. Definitely not for a 2nd round pick. He was the 8th overall pick 2 years ago, wasn't going to drop further than 9 (Mavs,) and to get a 2nd rounder back would be selling extremely low on him.

At least with Fultz there's a chance he can pan out into something, I wouldn't write him off just yet.

trading him for Fultz makes 0 sense since we are trading him bc of a jam already.

I don't think they'd give us Isaac for him- another guy who isn't that good offensively but has shown he can be a good defender in this league. I also doubt they'd give us a first rounder for him so I'd imagine it would be Fultz or a second rounder.

At least Fultz can play the 1 or 2, I mean there was a reason he was selected with the 1st pick a few years ago. If this staff is so good at developing young talent than they should hopefully be able to bring Fultz around.

It's actually better there's a logjam in the backcourt, it could give Markelle ample time to come back slowly.

Isaac is about to go crazy this year this will never trade him for Frank. Orlando actually plays defense Frank would make them so much better (14th). Knicks were 30th but wanna trade a defender? lool

[BeagleBoss]

What exactly happened to Fultz? He was such a can't miss prospect coming out of Washington.

[BLACKFEET 2010]

Not for nothing, I hope people aren’t just assuming Dot’s safe. His standing here after the free agent adds is just as much in question as Frank.

[K_ick_God]

What exactly happened to Fultz? He was such a can't miss prospect coming out of Washington.

Seems like mental problems to be honest.

[GONYK]

Watch it be Frank for Fultz

Fun fact about Fultz, Landry Shamet scored more points for the 6ers in the half season he was there than Fultz did in 2 years

That would fit salary wise.

I'd do it.

How does that solve the issue of there not being enough minutes in the backcourt?