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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 5) -LOTTO 8/25 DRAFT 10/15! 

Post#741 » by Deeeez Knicks » Fri Jun 5, 2020 9:10 pm

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Sexton still shot about 5% better from 3 than Maxey too. I just see Maxey being a inefficient scorer off the bench like Rodney Stuckey. Would rather go for someone else with higher upside.


The release is low, but otherwise is fine. Trae Young. Coby White, Steph Curry, etc have low releases...Maxey doesn't have as quick a release though

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Exactly those guys have much faster releases on their shot. Maxey’s is a lot slower. And they shot the 3 ball significantly better than Maxey in college. Plus his shot looks flat, not much arc. I’ll pass. I just don’t see much upside in a poor shooting combo guard that has an average handle, limited court vision. Rodney Stuckey vibes to me


A lot of players have low releases. Even LaMelo and Haliburton have a low releases. Just disagree that its a big issue these days.

Maxey's release isnt really slow either...just not Trae Young fast, not many are.
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Post#742 » by 3toheadmelo » Fri Jun 5, 2020 9:26 pm

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The release is low, but otherwise is fine. Trae Young. Coby White, Steph Curry, etc have low releases...Maxey doesn't have as quick a release though

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Exactly those guys have much faster releases on their shot. Maxey’s is a lot slower. And they shot the 3 ball significantly better than Maxey in college. Plus his shot looks flat, not much arc. I’ll pass. I just don’t see much upside in a poor shooting combo guard that has an average handle, limited court vision. Rodney Stuckey vibes to me


A lot of players have low releases. Even LaMelo and Haliburton have a low releases. Just disagree that its a big issue these days.

Maxey's release isnt really slow either...just not Trae Young fast, not many are.

Yes plenty of great shooters have low releases but they also have a lot of arc and faster releases. His shot is flat and has a slower release. Guys you mentioned like Haliburton, Curry, Trae, Coby White all shot the 3 ball significantly better than him as well. If his percentages weren’t so poor then I would see your point but they aren’t. Gonna have to agree to disagree here. Hard pass on Maxey
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Post#743 » by newyorker4ever » Fri Jun 5, 2020 9:55 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:Maxey might be an underrated option on the Knicks board. Leon Rose is close with Coach Cal/Kentucky so he should have a lot of intel. Rumors were that the Knicks were looking for a scoring G, and Maxey could be the best one when we pick. He feels like one of those guys who will pan out better in the NBA and be pretty good.

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He's definitely on my if we pick at #8 or any later list for sure. Of course that depends on who's still on the board cause someone could always slide further than these mocks have them going.
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Post#744 » by HarthorneWingo » Fri Jun 5, 2020 10:25 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:Exactly those guys have much faster releases on their shot. Maxey’s is a lot slower. And they shot the 3 ball significantly better than Maxey in college. Plus his shot looks flat, not much arc. I’ll pass. I just don’t see much upside in a poor shooting combo guard that has an average handle, limited court vision. Rodney Stuckey vibes to me


A lot of players have low releases. Even LaMelo and Haliburton have a low releases. Just disagree that its a big issue these days.

Maxey's release isnt really slow either...just not Trae Young fast, not many are.

Yes plenty of great shooters have low releases but they also have a lot of arc and faster releases. His shot is flat and has a slower release. Guys you mentioned like Haliburton, Curry, Trae, Coby White all shot the 3 ball significantly better than him as well. If his percentages weren’t so poor then I would see your point but they aren’t. Gonna have to agree to disagree here. Hard pass on Maxey


That's a good point. Halliburton's arc is a thing of beauty ... the way tickles the twine of the net ... makes my nipples hard and erect.

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Post#745 » by RHODEY » Fri Jun 5, 2020 11:22 pm

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A lot of players have low releases. Even LaMelo and Haliburton have a low releases. Just disagree that its a big issue these days.

Maxey's release isnt really slow either...just not Trae Young fast, not many are.

Yes plenty of great shooters have low releases but they also have a lot of arc and faster releases. His shot is flat and has a slower release. Guys you mentioned like Haliburton, Curry, Trae, Coby White all shot the 3 ball significantly better than him as well. If his percentages weren’t so poor then I would see your point but they aren’t. Gonna have to agree to disagree here. Hard pass on Maxey


That's a good point. Halliburton's arc is a thing of beauty ... the way tickles the twine of the net ... makes my nipples hard and erect.

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Post#746 » by HarthorneWingo » Fri Jun 5, 2020 11:28 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:Yes plenty of great shooters have low releases but they also have a lot of arc and faster releases. His shot is flat and has a slower release. Guys you mentioned like Haliburton, Curry, Trae, Coby White all shot the 3 ball significantly better than him as well. If his percentages weren’t so poor then I would see your point but they aren’t. Gonna have to agree to disagree here. Hard pass on Maxey


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Post#747 » by RHODEY » Fri Jun 5, 2020 11:33 pm

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Post#748 » by newyorker4ever » Sat Jun 6, 2020 12:34 am

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Post#751 » by Zenzibar » Sat Jun 6, 2020 3:46 am

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Lots to pick from at 6-10 spots. Just hoping guard heavy lottery teams like Cleveland and Bulls don't get their names called before us.

If they land in the top spots, a top guard is sliding through even at 4 or 5.
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Post#754 » by RHODEY » Sat Jun 6, 2020 6:52 am

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Lots to pick from at 6-10 spots. Just hoping guard heavy lottery teams like Cleveland and Bulls don't get their names called before us.

If they land in the top spots, a top guard is sliding through even at 4 or 5.


When it comes to us, I really don't even consider 9th or 10th.

I think more 6th, 7th or 8th is our range...anything better than that is a boon.
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Post#755 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Jun 6, 2020 11:58 am

This draft feels somewhat like the 2012 draft, where 4 players went in the top 10 that were really worth it, but they were spread out and there were a lot of guys in the first round just not that great. Obviously, 2012 had a clear cut #1.

Might be biased by the fact I just looked up that draft for another reason. But Lillard goes 6th, Beal 3rd, both guys with a player(s) in front of them who didn't pan out, while 6/10 of the picks in the top 10 just haven't been that great. And one of the "good" picks was Drummond.

Being higher up matters, and I'll always take top 6 or higher if possible, but it's also about the smarts of the GM/Front office/scouts. And some luck.
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Post#756 » by newyorker4ever » Sat Jun 6, 2020 3:05 pm

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Tough to predict just what C.Anthony will be in the NBA and if you're using a lottery pick for a Austin Rivers type then i'll pass, but even though i have him lower on my Knicks list i do think he has a good shot at being a better player than an A.Rivers type.
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Post#757 » by newyorker4ever » Sat Jun 6, 2020 3:07 pm

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Lots to pick from at 6-10 spots. Just hoping guard heavy lottery teams like Cleveland and Bulls don't get their names called before us.

If they land in the top spots, a top guard is sliding through even at 4 or 5.


I still wouldn't count Clev and Chicago out from taking a guard if they draft before us. I think it's been made pretty clear that Clev would trade Sexton if they got a decent offer for him and you don't know what Chicago is gonna do with players on that team after pretty much cleaning house in the front offices and coaches.
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Post#758 » by newyorker4ever » Sat Jun 6, 2020 3:13 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:This draft feels somewhat like the 2012 draft, where 4 players went in the top 10 that were really worth it, but they were spread out and there were a lot of guys in the first round just not that great. Obviously, 2012 had a clear cut #1.

Might be biased by the fact I just looked up that draft for another reason. But Lillard goes 6th, Beal 3rd, both guys with a player(s) in front of them who didn't pan out, while 6/10 of the picks in the top 10 just haven't been that great. And one of the "good" picks was Drummond.

Being higher up matters, and I'll always take top 6 or higher if possible, but it's also about the smarts of the GM/Front office/scouts. And some luck.


So we'll pick 5th then.....Go Knicks.
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Post#759 » by Zenzibar » Sat Jun 6, 2020 3:38 pm

newyorker4ever wrote:
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Lots to pick from at 6-10 spots. Just hoping guard heavy lottery teams like Cleveland and Bulls don't get their names called before us.

If they land in the top spots, a top guard is sliding through even at 4 or 5.


I still wouldn't count Clev and Chicago out from taking a guard if they draft before us. I think it's been made pretty clear that Clev would trade Sexton if they got a decent offer for him and you don't know what Chicago is gonna do with players on that team after pretty much cleaning house in the front offices and coaches.



Sexton is going to be really nice, they'd be foolish to move him at this early stage. They have enough guards that they'd be pressed to draft another or like you said, conider moving a young player.

Still Chicago has: Coby White, Zack and Nunn.
Cavs has: Sexton, Kevin Porter Jr., Darius Garland, Dellavedova

Cavs have to be looking for a front line player and the Bulls are praying for Wiseman. Have to think this pushes a guard to us and why Cavs and Bulls at the top spots will help tremendously.

Also if the Warriors are committed to Wiggins, then they too are praying for Wiseman in spite of trying to through off the scent.

That make the Cavs, Bulls and Warriors at the top, not a bad scenario IF we're mid-lottery.
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Post#760 » by malik959 » Sat Jun 6, 2020 4:21 pm

With teams ahead of us needing big men (Hawks, Cavs, Det) we're actually inactive good position at 6th.

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