OT: Clinton or Bush?

[Stannis]

Apparently, there's early reports that Biden is going to sanction Iran.

I'm not sure how or if this would affect our gas prices? I know gas went up with the Russian invasion but it leveled months later.

I'm assuming USA will once again have to ask the Saudis to ramp up production.

EDIT/Update:

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[DOT]

I'm anti-war, anti open borders, pro free speech and pro health. If I was forced to vote, I would have to vote for Trump as at least his lip service aligns better with my beliefs (not that I think he will deliver). I live in a blue state so it actually does not matter whether I vote or who I vote for.

I think you post a false dichotomy though, both parties are actively harmful. The dems have been running the country without a functioning president as if this isn't a problem for national security. Kamala looks completely out of her depth. They offer nothing except the same not-Trump rhetoric I voted for before.

Ah, I see

You're another one of those "I'm not a Trump supporter but" types who claim neutrality but just regurgitate right wing talking points

I'll let you get back to it then.

[DOT]

He did not win NC by much in 2020 and unexpectedly lost Georgia. I think he is in for the same fate because of that messaging.

I think Kamala gets one of PA, GA, or NC. I don't think Trump can run the table on them, the margins are just too slim. If I had to bet, I'd say NC because of the Mark Robinson situation as well as because Kemp in GA is doing all he can to prevent people from voting so he doesn't have to "find" votes this time.

[Wigginstime]

Oil is now up 4%

If prices at the gas pump go up towards the election, that won't be good for Kamala.

It's unfair, I know. But just saying....

Almost like Israel and Iran are doing this on purpose...

Russia and Israel have a vested interest in helping Trump win, because neither Putin or Bibi want anything to do with Harris, who most likely will not take their sh*t, and Iran is probably doing Putin's bidding. The timing is so deliberate on all of this it just can't be a coincidence.

I am really curious to understand this opinion...

The Taliban took back Afghanistan well Biden/Harris were in office
Russia Invaded Ukraine well Biden/Harris were in office
Iran openly engaged in direct military action against Israel well Biden/Harris were in office
China has openly engaged in aggressive action against Taiwan well Biden/Harris were in office
North Korea openly fired ballistic missiles over Japan waters well Biden/Harris were in office

Take Trump out of the conversation - What do you mean by "Harris will not take their ****". The US enemies have challenged the Biden/Harris administration far more than they ever challenge Trump/Obama/Bush/Clinton. I don't get this mindset of people are scared of Harris.

I'm not a Trump Supporter. In fact the military didn't like Trump because he jeopardized the relationships with our allies that we have built since WWII. He openly called out NATO and hurt many strategic relationships. Trump was viewed by most world leaders as a clueless idiot, but Biden was flat out viewed as passive and weak.

[DOT]

I always found it interesting as the "not a Trump supporter but" crowd has to simultaneously argue that Russia invaded Ukraine because Biden/Harris are weak, but also that Biden/Harris are so powerful they are single-handedly holding the entire Russian army at bay and we should stop supporting Ukraine to let Russia take over because without us, they would fall instantly.

[thebuzzardman]

Apparently, there's early reports that Biden is going to sanction Iran.

I'm not sure how or if this would affect our gas prices? I know gas went up with the Russian invasion but it leveled months later.

I'm assuming USA will once again have to ask the Saudis to ramp up production.

EDIT/Update:

Read on Twitter

Well MBS wants Trump to manipulate so they will probably cut production. In fact, I'm sure of it.

[MrDollarBills]

Apparently, there's early reports that Biden is going to sanction Iran.

I'm not sure how or if this would affect our gas prices? I know gas went up with the Russian invasion but it leveled months later.

I'm assuming USA will once again have to ask the Saudis to ramp up production.

EDIT/Update:

Read on Twitter

Well MBS wants Trump to manipulate so they will probably cut production. In fact, I'm sure of it.

Old Bone Saw killer is snake in the grass just like Bibi.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Almost like Israel and Iran are doing this on purpose...

Russia and Israel have a vested interest in helping Trump win, because neither Putin or Bibi want anything to do with Harris, who most likely will not take their sh*t, and Iran is probably doing Putin's bidding. The timing is so deliberate on all of this it just can't be a coincidence.

I am really curious to understand this opinion...

The Taliban took back Afghanistan well Biden/Harris were in office
Because of a deal Trump made. He also happened to give them back 5000 soldiers BTW

Russia Invaded Ukraine well Biden/Harris were in office
Trump's boy?

Iran openly engaged in direct military action against Israel well Biden/Harris were in office
A conflict that has going on since before most of us were born? That Trump's boy Bibi is escalating right before the election?

China has openly engaged in aggressive action against Taiwan well Biden/Harris were in office
China has been slow roll doing foul **** for decades

North Korea openly fired ballistic missiles over Japan waters well Biden/Harris were in office
BWAAAAHAHAHAHAAAA North Korea? WTF? They have been stirring shyt forever!

Take Trump out of the conversation - What do you mean by "Harris will not take their ****". The US enemies have challenged the Biden/Harris administration far more than they ever challenge Trump/Obama/Bush/Clinton. I don't get this mindset of people are scared of Harris.

I'm not a Trump Supporter. In fact the military didn't like Trump because he jeopardized the relationships with our allies that we have built since WWII. He openly called out NATO and hurt many strategic relationships. Trump was viewed by most world leaders as a clueless idiot, but Biden was flat out viewed as passive and weak.

This idea that the world wasn't boiling over before Biden took office is complete BS.

[MrDollarBills]

Very informative video about the strike

Watch on YouTube

[ScienceOfLosing]

Russia and Israel have a vested interest in helping Trump win, because neither Putin or Bibi want anything to do with Harris, who most likely will not take their sh*t, and Iran is probably doing Putin's bidding. The timing is so deliberate on all of this it just can't be a coincidence.

I am really curious to understand this opinion...

The Taliban took back Afghanistan well Biden/Harris were in office
Because of a deal Trump made. He also happened to give them back 5000 soldiers BTW

Russia Invaded Ukraine well Biden/Harris were in office
Trump's boy?

Iran openly engaged in direct military action against Israel well Biden/Harris were in office
A conflict that has going on since before most of us were born? That Trump's boy Bibi is escalating right before the election?

China has openly engaged in aggressive action against Taiwan well Biden/Harris were in office
China has been slow roll doing foul **** for decades

North Korea openly fired ballistic missiles over Japan waters well Biden/Harris were in office
BWAAAAHAHAHAHAAAA North Korea? WTF? They have been stirring shyt forever!

Take Trump out of the conversation - What do you mean by "Harris will not take their ****". The US enemies have challenged the Biden/Harris administration far more than they ever challenge Trump/Obama/Bush/Clinton. I don't get this mindset of people are scared of Harris.

I'm not a Trump Supporter. In fact the military didn't like Trump because he jeopardized the relationships with our allies that we have built since WWII. He openly called out NATO and hurt many strategic relationships. Trump was viewed by most world leaders as a clueless idiot, but Biden was flat out viewed as passive and weak.

This idea that the world wasn't boiling over before Biden took office is complete BS.

But Trump is an expert negotiator (as his bestselling books and first term show.)
I get some people don’t like Trumps abrasiveness, but the world would be way better off right now, as his first term showed.
And if this middle east shizz show gets worse, it is a shoe in for Trump.

Biden is not running things. Not in his mental state. So who is?

[HarthorneWingo]

I am really curious to understand this opinion...

The Taliban took back Afghanistan well Biden/Harris were in office
Because of a deal Trump made. He also happened to give them back 5000 soldiers BTW

Russia Invaded Ukraine well Biden/Harris were in office
Trump's boy?

Iran openly engaged in direct military action against Israel well Biden/Harris were in office
A conflict that has going on since before most of us were born? That Trump's boy Bibi is escalating right before the election?

China has openly engaged in aggressive action against Taiwan well Biden/Harris were in office
China has been slow roll doing foul **** for decades

North Korea openly fired ballistic missiles over Japan waters well Biden/Harris were in office
BWAAAAHAHAHAHAAAA North Korea? WTF? They have been stirring shyt forever!

Take Trump out of the conversation - What do you mean by "Harris will not take their ****". The US enemies have challenged the Biden/Harris administration far more than they ever challenge Trump/Obama/Bush/Clinton. I don't get this mindset of people are scared of Harris.

I'm not a Trump Supporter. In fact the military didn't like Trump because he jeopardized the relationships with our allies that we have built since WWII. He openly called out NATO and hurt many strategic relationships. Trump was viewed by most world leaders as a clueless idiot, but Biden was flat out viewed as passive and weak.

This idea that the world wasn't boiling over before Biden took office is complete BS.

But Trump is an expert negotiator (as his bestselling books and first term show.)
I get some people don’t like Trumps abrasiveness, but the world would be way better off right now, as his first term showed.
And if this middle east shizz show gets worse, it is a shoe in for Trump.

Biden is not running things. Not in his mental state. So who is?

Biden is running things. In fact, he’s even ignoring his own CIA and State Department officials when it comes to the Middle East.

Reading your reference to Trump’s one and only term as President as having any kind success is mind boggling. I have to wonder what you’re referring to. Trump had no success as President and is rated as one of the worst presidents in U.S history.

Trump is an expert negotiator? Where did you get that from, Donald Trump?

[Im Coming Home]

Apparently, there's early reports that Biden is going to sanction Iran.

I'm not sure how or if this would affect our gas prices? I know gas went up with the Russian invasion but it leveled months later.

I'm assuming USA will once again have to ask the Saudis to ramp up production.

EDIT/Update:

Read on Twitter

Sanction Iran for protecting itself against a genocidal apartheid state..

disgusting man.

[Pointgod]

Republicans have really lost any sense of reality

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[Pointgod]

I think you’re massively overestimating how much these single items would impact the election. People on the left are such doomers. This is simply a turnout election and Trump hasn’t done a single thing to expand his base while not only has Harris expanded her base, she’ll pick up Republican votes.

Analysis I've been reading are saying that Trump can lose the popular vote by 5-10m votes but still win.

I get Kamala might be "growing" her support. But where is she doing that?

Look at the analysis "Handledatruth" provided a few pages back in regards to Pennsylvania.

This is just one datapoint but if you look at polling of Kamala vs Biden it’s entirely been trending positive. You literally have Haley voters for Harris. And if you assume Harris starts from Biden 2020 numbers, Trump has a massive hole to climb out of and he’s such a buffoon that he’s put North Carolina in play by pushing Mark Robinson

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[Stannis]

Not familiar with this guy, but would be kinda crazy if an independent beat a Republican in Nebraska.

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[HarthorneWingo]

Apparently, there's early reports that Biden is going to sanction Iran.

I'm not sure how or if this would affect our gas prices? I know gas went up with the Russian invasion but it leveled months later.

I'm assuming USA will once again have to ask the Saudis to ramp up production.

EDIT/Update:

Read on Twitter

Sanction Iran for protecting itself against a genocidal apartheid state..

disgusting man.

Biden had been ignoring his own CIA, State Department, and Joint Chiefs on this. He’s a Christo-Zionist of the highest order. Almost evangelical in that belief. I guess we can throw Islamophobe in there as well … unless they have some oil to sell.

[MrDollarBills]

https://abcnews.go.com/US/bombshell-special-counsel-filing-includes-new-allegations-trumps/story?id=114409494

Special counsel Jack Smith has outlined new details of former President Donald Trump and his allies' sweeping and "increasingly desperate" efforts to overturn his 2020 election loss, in a blockbuster court filing Wednesday aimed at defending Smith's prosecution of Trump following the Supreme Court's July immunity ruling.

Trump intentionally lied to the public, state election officials, and his own vice president in an effort to cling to power after losing the election, while privately describing some of the claims of election fraud as "crazy," prosecutors alleged in the 165-page filing.

"When the defendant lost the 2020 presidential election, he resorted to crimes to try to stay in office," the filing said. "With private co-conspirators, the defendant launched a series of increasingly desperate plans to overturn the legitimate election results in seven states that he had lost."

Donald Trump is a traitor and a criminal.

Oh. And let's not forget

Spoiler:

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[Stannis]

Biden had been ignoring his own CIA, State Department, and Joint Chiefs on this. He’s a Christo-Zionist of the highest order. Almost evangelical in that belief. I guess we can throw Islamophobe as well … unless they have some oil to sell.

Yeah, I dunno what he is doing. Do you think it's selfish for him to act like this? He's going to retire soon. And what he is doing here isn't exactly helping Kamala's election chances, imho.

Biden seems oddly close to Trump when it comes to this issue. But what's weird about it all is that Bibi clearly prefers one over the other, but Biden is helping him anyways.

So far, it doesn't seem like Europe wants to join in on this "fun" either. It almost sounds like Biden just wants to go out of the White House with a bang.

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Bibi's Israel is a liability to all US citizens

PERIOD!!!!

[HarthorneWingo]

Chappelle could change the name of this skit to Black Biden and it would still be kinda true.

Watch on YouTube

[MrDollarBills]

Apparently, there's early reports that Biden is going to sanction Iran.

I'm not sure how or if this would affect our gas prices? I know gas went up with the Russian invasion but it leveled months later.

I'm assuming USA will once again have to ask the Saudis to ramp up production.

EDIT/Update:

Read on Twitter

Sanction Iran for protecting itself against a genocidal apartheid state..

disgusting man.

Biden had been ignoring his own CIA, State Department, and Joint Chiefs on this. He’s a Christo-Zionist of the highest order. Almost evangelical in that belief. I guess we can throw Islamophobe in there as well … unless they have some oil to sell.

Wingo can you give me some context on the State Department/CIA angle?