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Re: Ex-Knicks, Sh**posts, and Old Trades - OH MY! 

Post#741 » by Klomp » Mon Dec 30, 2024 6:15 pm

One more and I promise I'll (try to) stop...

Last night was the Donte DiVincenzo Game. Everyone in Minnesota knows it.

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Post#742 » by Chanel Bomber » Mon Dec 30, 2024 6:16 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:Moved to different thread….

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Mitchell is a great player that I would have loved to have, but we made the right decision. That trade would have zapped our resources where we would not have been able to assemble OG, Mikal, Hart....maybe Deuce...maybe KAT.

It was perfect timing to add Mikal and KAT

Plus we already beat Clev in the playoffs pretty badly....with RJ as our 2nd best player in the series 8-)

I don't think that's true.

Hart only took Cam and a protected first. We could've still traded for him.

We would still have IQ who became the centerpiece of the OG trade, with additional picks and salary filler to trade if needed. We could've still traded for him.

We had the resources to build a contender around Mitchell and Brunson. And as it turns out, Ainge's demands were pretty much a bargain for us.

That we beat them with Mitchell doesn't automatically mean we would've met Cleveland's fate with him on our squad.

It's perfectly fine to be happy with our current squad - which I am - and admit to these points.


That protected first we used for Hart would have been gone to move Fournier in the deal.

Woj reported 3 picks Nyk 1sts, 2 swaps, 2 other picks, a bunch of 2nds….plus RJ and IQ or Grimes. Basically the assets we used to get OG, Hart, and Mikal

When guard Immanuel Quickley was proposed as a replacement for Grimes in the trade, Utah wanted three unprotected first-round draft picks as part of the package -- but New York would only do a third first-round pick that included top-five protections, sources said. Those packages would've included Milwaukee's 2025 first-round pick, two second-round picks, two pick swaps and two expiring contracts from a third team, sources said. New York would've moved out Evan Fournier and a first-round pick to a third team to spare Utah taking on Fournier's remaining $37 million, sources said.

RJ and Grimes plus 3 firsts is the most high-end reporting of the return (perhaps a 1-2 additional pick swap). Inserting Grimes in the deal instead of IQ was always supposed to reduce the amount of outgoing draft picks, and he was the biggest sticking point.

Fournier's deal was mentioned as going to Utah and other places. There were different iterations. I don't know which report you're using - sources varied and talks kept evolving so the negotiations changed over time.

But we would still have had a protected pick plus Reddish for Hart. There was never any report by credible insiders about all our protected picks going in that trade.

We'd have kept IQ which means we'd still have the centerpiece of the OG trade.

If we still signed DDV in the subsequent summer, we'd still be able to package Randle and DDV for KAT.

The only big acquisition we couldn't pull off would be Bridges. And we'd have regained rights over two of our firsts as the trade went down over two years ago.

Listen, you can prefer this current iteration of the Knicks, as I do, but there's no need to cap about the Mitchell trade. We're good now. No need to make chit up to feel better about our present.
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Post#743 » by 3toheadmelo » Mon Dec 30, 2024 6:16 pm

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Randle was a -9 in that game. They looked a lot better when he and Conley were on the bench.

Didn’t watch so I can’t confirm! 8-)

But it sounds like this new rotation they’re doing with him has him playing better lately. #1 offensive rating and top 10 defense with that group. Randle said he has more space to be a point forward too.
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Post#744 » by KnicksGadfly » Mon Dec 30, 2024 6:24 pm

Klomp wrote:One more and I promise I'll (try to) stop...

Last night was the Donte DiVincenzo Game. Everyone in Minnesota knows it.

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Damn Randle dragged the Minnesota fans to the shytposting thread too smh
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Post#745 » by HerSports85 » Mon Dec 30, 2024 6:27 pm

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Klomp wrote:One more and I promise I'll (try to) stop...

Last night was the Donte DiVincenzo Game. Everyone in Minnesota knows it.

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Damn Randle dragged the Minnesota fans to the shytposting thread too smh


I was like what's going on here :lol: :lol:
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Post#746 » by HerSports85 » Mon Dec 30, 2024 6:29 pm

at least when Juju had his good stretches we acknowledged it. Wolves fans still going in on him.
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Post#747 » by Guano » Mon Dec 30, 2024 6:33 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
Klomp wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Didn’t watch so I can’t confirm! 8-)

But it sounds like this new rotation they’re doing with him has him playing better lately. #1 offensive rating and top 10 defense with that group. Randle said he has more space to be a point forward too.
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Post#748 » by Guano » Mon Dec 30, 2024 6:34 pm

KnicksGadfly wrote:
Klomp wrote:One more and I promise I'll (try to) stop...

Last night was the Donte DiVincenzo Game. Everyone in Minnesota knows it.

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Damn Randle dragged the Minnesota fans to the shytposting thread too smh


:lol:
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Post#749 » by KnicksGadfly » Mon Dec 30, 2024 6:39 pm

Guano wrote:
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Klomp wrote:One more and I promise I'll (try to) stop...

Last night was the Donte DiVincenzo Game. Everyone in Minnesota knows it.

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Damn Randle dragged the Minnesota fans to the shytposting thread too smh


:lol:
Gonna be some toxic therapy for em in here.


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Post#750 » by Guano » Mon Dec 30, 2024 6:40 pm

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This is the sht i really don't miss.

The greats play the game at a speed different from the rest. Well so does Randle but it's not very beneficial to his team.
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Post#751 » by Guano » Mon Dec 30, 2024 6:44 pm

HerSports85 wrote:at least when Juju had his good stretches we acknowledged it. Wolves fans still going in on him.


Cant blame em.

I'd hate him and the FO and cj McCollum with a passion. They were contenders. Now they're watching Randle, worried they're gonna lose Ant and turning to us to vent their frustration. That's down bad.
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Post#752 » by Capn'O » Mon Dec 30, 2024 6:45 pm

Klomp wrote:One more and I promise I'll (try to) stop...

Last night was the Donte DiVincenzo Game. Everyone in Minnesota knows it.

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I didn't like seeing Donte turn into a pumpkin for you guys early on. He brings so much passion to the game it was tough to see. He started out kinda rough for us last year as well so maybe this is a turning point for him.
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Post#753 » by Capn'O » Mon Dec 30, 2024 6:51 pm

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Damn Randle dragged the Minnesota fans to the shytposting thread too smh


:lol:
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Post#754 » by stuporman » Mon Dec 30, 2024 6:54 pm

HerSports85 wrote:at least when Juju had his good stretches we acknowledged it. Wolves fans still going in on him.


We were naive back then...they have learned from our mistakes.
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Post#755 » by Clyde_Style » Mon Dec 30, 2024 6:54 pm

Capn'O wrote:
KnicksGadfly wrote:
Guano wrote:
:lol:
Gonna be some toxic therapy for em in here.


Klomp taking his first steps towards toxic Knicks fandom and he doesn't even know it


We got that Calinks guy too. And MrDollarBills. **** is like that story a few years back about the black guy that was befriending KKK guys, showing them the error of their ways, and collecting their robes.


Keep Donte (or send him back to us) and dump Randle
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Post#756 » by Deeeez Knicks » Mon Dec 30, 2024 6:57 pm

Chanel Bomber wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:Moved to different thread….

Chanel Bomber wrote:I don't think that's true.

Hart only took Cam and a protected first. We could've still traded for him.

We would still have IQ who became the centerpiece of the OG trade, with additional picks and salary filler to trade if needed. We could've still traded for him.

We had the resources to build a contender around Mitchell and Brunson. And as it turns out, Ainge's demands were pretty much a bargain for us.

That we beat them with Mitchell doesn't automatically mean we would've met Cleveland's fate with him on our squad.

It's perfectly fine to be happy with our current squad - which I am - and admit to these points.


That protected first we used for Hart would have been gone to move Fournier in the deal.

Woj reported 3 picks Nyk 1sts, 2 swaps, 2 other picks, a bunch of 2nds….plus RJ and IQ or Grimes. Basically the assets we used to get OG, Hart, and Mikal

When guard Immanuel Quickley was proposed as a replacement for Grimes in the trade, Utah wanted three unprotected first-round draft picks as part of the package -- but New York would only do a third first-round pick that included top-five protections, sources said. Those packages would've included Milwaukee's 2025 first-round pick, two second-round picks, two pick swaps and two expiring contracts from a third team, sources said. New York would've moved out Evan Fournier and a first-round pick to a third team to spare Utah taking on Fournier's remaining $37 million, sources said.

RJ and Grimes plus 3 firsts is the most high-end reporting of the return (perhaps a 1-2 additional pick swap). Inserting Grimes in the deal instead of IQ was always supposed to reduce the amount of outgoing draft picks, and he was the biggest sticking point.

Fournier's deal was mentioned as going to Utah and other places. There were different iterations. I don't know which report you're using - sources varied and talks kept evolving so the negotiations changed over time.

But we would still have had a protected pick plus Reddish for Hart. There was never any report by credible insiders about all our protected picks going in that trade.

We'd have kept IQ which means we'd still have the centerpiece of the OG trade.

If we still signed DDV in the subsequent summer, we'd still be able to package Randle and DDV for KAT.

The only big acquisition we couldn't pull off would be Bridges. And we'd have regained rights over two of our firsts as the trade went down over two years ago.

Listen, you can prefer this current iteration of the Knicks, as I do, but there's no need to cap about the Mitchell trade. We're good now. No need to make chit up to feel better about our present.


I posted the deal directly from Woj. Not making things up.

3 Nyk 1sts, 2 swaps, 2 other picks, a bunch of 2nds, RJ, Fournier and IQ or Grimes.

If you think we could have gotten Mitchell for 3 picks, RJ and IQ that is straight up delusional when he was traded for 3 picks, 2 swaps, Lauri, Sexton, and Agbaji (lottery pick in the draft).

Just use common sense. To beat Cleveland's offer, it would have to be something similar to what I posted. What you posted doesn't come close to beating the actual deal.

Plus on one hand your saying RJ can be the center piece of a deal for Mitchell, on the other hand he didn't matter to Toronto

With IQ vs Grimes, the issue is Mitchell and Brunson would be playing most of the minutes. There wouldn't have been much minutes or opportunity for IQ thus why he was preferred to be in the deal.

So basically every asset we used to get OG, Mikal and Hart would have been gone. It's almost word for word.... Combine the Mikal, Hart, OG trades and that's what Ainge wanted... Maybe a tad less.

Would have been a totally different team so tough to say. Rose def would have made more moves and maybe we get 2 of those 4. We certainly wouldn't have everyone. Don't think you can simply swap Mikal for Mitchell because it doesn't even work cap wise.

In the end I do love this team and where we are at. Just posting facts about what the deal actual was and saying I prefer this team.
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Post#757 » by stuporman » Mon Dec 30, 2024 6:57 pm

We need the Squidward window meme with Wolves fans watching Knicks fans frolick...
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Post#758 » by Capn'O » Mon Dec 30, 2024 6:59 pm

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We got that Calinks guy too. And MrDollarBills. **** is like that story a few years back about the black guy that was befriending KKK guys, showing them the error of their ways, and collecting their robes.


Keep Donte (or send him back to us) and dump Randle


I don't think there's a way. In any event, it would involve Mitch and I don't see a scenario where they need him.
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Post#759 » by stuporman » Mon Dec 30, 2024 7:00 pm

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Deeeez Knicks wrote:Moved to different thread….



That protected first we used for Hart would have been gone to move Fournier in the deal.

Woj reported 3 picks Nyk 1sts, 2 swaps, 2 other picks, a bunch of 2nds….plus RJ and IQ or Grimes. Basically the assets we used to get OG, Hart, and Mikal


RJ and Grimes plus 3 firsts is the most high-end reporting of the return (perhaps a 1-2 additional pick swap). Inserting Grimes in the deal instead of IQ was always supposed to reduce the amount of outgoing draft picks, and he was the biggest sticking point.

Fournier's deal was mentioned as going to Utah and other places. There were different iterations. I don't know which report you're using - sources varied and talks kept evolving so the negotiations changed over time.

But we would still have had a protected pick plus Reddish for Hart. There was never any report by credible insiders about all our protected picks going in that trade.

We'd have kept IQ which means we'd still have the centerpiece of the OG trade.

If we still signed DDV in the subsequent summer, we'd still be able to package Randle and DDV for KAT.

The only big acquisition we couldn't pull off would be Bridges. And we'd have regained rights over two of our firsts as the trade went down over two years ago.

Listen, you can prefer this current iteration of the Knicks, as I do, but there's no need to cap about the Mitchell trade. We're good now. No need to make chit up to feel better about our present.


I posted the deal directly from Woj. Not making things up.

3 Nyk 1sts, 2 swaps, 2 other picks, a bunch of 2nds, RJ, Fournier and IQ or Grimes.

If you think we could have gotten Mitchell for 3 picks, RJ and IQ that is straight up delusional when he was traded for 3 picks, 2 swaps, Lauri, Sexton, and Agbaji (lottery pick in the draft).

Just use common sense. To beat Cleveland's offer, it would have to be something similar to what I posted. What you posted doesn't come close to beating the actual deal.

Plus on one hand your saying RJ can be the center piece of a deal for Mitchell, on the other hand he didn't matter to Toronto

With IQ vs Grimes, the issue is Mitchell and Brunson would be playing most of the minutes. There wouldn't have been much minutes or opportunity for IQ thus why he was preferred to be in the deal.

So basically every asset we used to get OG, Mikal and Hart would have been gone. It's almost word for word.... Combine the Mikal, Hart, OG trades and that's what Ainge wanted... Maybe a tad less.

Would have been a totally different team so tough to say. Rose def would have made more moves and maybe we get 2 of those 4. We certainly wouldn't have everyone. Don't think you can simply swap Mikal for Mitchell because it doesn't even work cap wise.

In the end I do love this team and where we are at. Just posting facts about what the deal actual was and saying I prefer this team.


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Post#760 » by 3toheadmelo » Mon Dec 30, 2024 7:02 pm

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Chanel and1ing this to try to get us off the scent that HE is a closet gogurt fan.

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