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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#761 » by slacker55 » Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:48 pm

blueNorange wrote:who shoots himself in the chest?


But then again, what kind of "hitman" lets their victim die hours later in a hospital?

And if it's true that the detective believed a crime was committed, Rose would have been charged with a crime by now.

So if anyone ordered a hit, it's someone in Jane Doe's camp to try to make Rose look bad...
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#762 » by blueNorange » Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:52 pm

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blueNorange wrote:who shoots himself in the chest?


But then again, what kind of "hitman" lets their victim die hours later in a hospital?

And if it's true that the detective believed a crime was committed, Rose would have been charged with a crime by now.

So if anyone ordered a hit, it's someone in Jane Doe's camp to try to make Rose look bad...

whatever it is, it's something.

unless the dude wanted to donate his brain to science, it's just weird. then again forensics will find out what really happened.
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#763 » by taikibansei » Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:59 pm

Sark wrote:Who the hell commits suicide by shooting yourself in the chest? Doesn't sound right.


Women who commit suicide are more likely than men to avoid facial disfiguration, but not necessarily in the name of vanity. Valerie Callanan from the University of Akron and Mark Davis from the Criminal Justice Research Center at the Ohio State University, USA, show that there are marked gender differences in the use of suicide methods that disfigure the face or head. While firearms are the preferred method for both men and women, women are less likely to shoot themselves in the head.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/08/110830091107.htm

Seriously, this is a non-story....
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#764 » by slacker55 » Wed Oct 12, 2016 11:00 pm

blueNorange wrote:
slacker55 wrote:
blueNorange wrote:who shoots himself in the chest?


But then again, what kind of "hitman" lets their victim die hours later in a hospital?

And if it's true that the detective believed a crime was committed, Rose would have been charged with a crime by now.

So if anyone ordered a hit, it's someone in Jane Doe's camp to try to make Rose look bad...

whatever it is, it's something.

unless the dude wanted to donate his brain to science, it's just weird. then again forensics will find out what really happened.



I don't think it's a suicide either. Maybe Jane Doe hired someone to shoot the detective to make Rose look guilty?

Sounds crazy, I know. But when there's 21.5 million dollars on the line, anything's possible...
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#765 » by Bill Pidto » Wed Oct 12, 2016 11:08 pm

blueNorange wrote:
slacker55 wrote:
blueNorange wrote:who shoots himself in the chest?


But then again, what kind of "hitman" lets their victim die hours later in a hospital?

And if it's true that the detective believed a crime was committed, Rose would have been charged with a crime by now.

So if anyone ordered a hit, it's someone in Jane Doe's camp to try to make Rose look bad...

whatever it is, it's something.

unless the dude wanted to donate his brain to science, it's just weird. then again forensics will find out what really happened.


First off, it was a woman, and not a dude.

Second, you can't paint Rose as a mush-mouth idiot and then credit him with wacking one of the detectives on his case :lol:

Not to mention, I doubt murdering one detective will save him from a rape charge if the LAPD had a case built on him, unless she was holding all of the evidence in her bra when they shot her in the chest.

A definite non-story as it pertains to Rose and the Knicks. This was either related to a completely different case, or more likely than that, it truly was a suicide or murder totally unrelated to her line of work. Pure coincidence. Mind-numbingly stupid to even consider Rose a suspect in this.

How many times does someone have to mention that the LAPD opened an investigation 2 years ago and haven't come close to charging Derrick?
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#766 » by blueNorange » Wed Oct 12, 2016 11:11 pm

Bill Pidto wrote:
blueNorange wrote:
slacker55 wrote:
But then again, what kind of "hitman" lets their victim die hours later in a hospital?

And if it's true that the detective believed a crime was committed, Rose would have been charged with a crime by now.

So if anyone ordered a hit, it's someone in Jane Doe's camp to try to make Rose look bad...

whatever it is, it's something.

unless the dude wanted to donate his brain to science, it's just weird. then again forensics will find out what really happened.


First off, it was a woman, and not a dude.

Second, you can't paint Rose as a mush-mouth idiot and then credit him with wacking one of the detectives on his case :lol:

Not to mention, I doubt murdering one detective will save him from a rape charge if the LAPD had a case built on him, unless she was holding all of the evidence in her bra when they shot her in the chest.

A definite non-story as it pertains to Rose and the Knicks. This was either related to a completely different case, or more likely than that, it truly was a suicide or murder totally unrelated to her line of work. Pure coincidence. Mind-numbingly stupid to even consider Rose a suspect in this.

How many times does someone have to mention that the LAPD opened an investigation 2 years ago and haven't come close to charging Derrick?

did i accuse rose of doing anything?
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#767 » by slacker55 » Wed Oct 12, 2016 11:17 pm

Bill Pidto wrote:
blueNorange wrote:
slacker55 wrote:
But then again, what kind of "hitman" lets their victim die hours later in a hospital?

And if it's true that the detective believed a crime was committed, Rose would have been charged with a crime by now.

So if anyone ordered a hit, it's someone in Jane Doe's camp to try to make Rose look bad...

whatever it is, it's something.

unless the dude wanted to donate his brain to science, it's just weird. then again forensics will find out what really happened.


First off, it was a woman, and not a dude.

Second, you can't paint Rose as a mush-mouth idiot and then credit him with wacking one of the detectives on his case :lol:

Not to mention, I doubt murdering one detective will save him from a rape charge if the LAPD had a case built on him, unless she was holding all of the evidence in her bra when they shot her in the chest.

A definite non-story as it pertains to Rose and the Knicks. This was either related to a completely different case, or more likely than that, it truly was a suicide or murder totally unrelated to her line of work. Pure coincidence. Mind-numbingly stupid to even consider Rose a suspect in this.

How many times does someone have to mention that the LAPD opened an investigation 2 years ago and haven't come close to charging Derrick?



Yeah. And even if the detective had incriminating evidence against Rose, there's no way for Rose or anyone in his camp to know she had it.
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#768 » by taikibansei » Wed Oct 12, 2016 11:17 pm

Bill Pidto wrote:How many times does someone have to mention that the LAPD opened an investigation 2 years ago and haven't come close to charging Derrick?


Quick correction: There's a "current and open criminal investigation" of Rose because three weeks ago, the plaintiff finally filed a criminal complaint:

http://www.complex.com/sports/2016/09/derrick-rose-accuser-criminal-charges-civil-case

The LAPD has to investigate each and every complaint. Their statement here:

This note is to clarify any misconception that the Los Angeles Police Department does not have a current and open criminal investigation pending that names the same suspects as the defendants in the current civil case being handled by your office (Case No. CV 15-7503-MWF (JCx). When filing the crime report, the victim in this case exercised her right to confidentiality as outlined in California Penal Code section 293.5. (a). Her identity will continue to remain confidential throughout the criminal investigation being handled by the Los Angeles Police Department.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/lapd-confirms-theres-an-open-criminal-investigation-in-the-derrick-rose-rape-case-170306724.html

Suggests only that they are doing what they are supposed to be doing, not that criminal charges are imminent (or even seriously being considered). Finally, as several have noted--and as the LAPD statement also makes clear--one important rationale behind the plaintiff finally filing charges was to help protect her anonymity.
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#769 » by Bill Pidto » Wed Oct 12, 2016 11:17 pm

blueNorange wrote:
Bill Pidto wrote:
blueNorange wrote:whatever it is, it's something.

unless the dude wanted to donate his brain to science, it's just weird. then again forensics will find out what really happened.


First off, it was a woman, and not a dude.

Second, you can't paint Rose as a mush-mouth idiot and then credit him with wacking one of the detectives on his case :lol:

Not to mention, I doubt murdering one detective will save him from a rape charge if the LAPD had a case built on him, unless she was holding all of the evidence in her bra when they shot her in the chest.

A definite non-story as it pertains to Rose and the Knicks. This was either related to a completely different case, or more likely than that, it truly was a suicide or murder totally unrelated to her line of work. Pure coincidence. Mind-numbingly stupid to even consider Rose a suspect in this.

How many times does someone have to mention that the LAPD opened an investigation 2 years ago and haven't come close to charging Derrick?

did i accuse rose of doing anything?


I guess not. My bad.
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Post#770 » by JXL » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:13 am

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Post#771 » by Orange Mamba » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:25 am

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Post#772 » by trophywinner » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:27 am

does this really need to go on for another week?

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Post#773 » by slacker55 » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:40 am

trophywinner wrote:does this really need to go on for another week?

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Well Doe's friends are gonna start testifying tomorrow. So it should be interesting to hear their side of the story.
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#774 » by NYKinMIA » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:51 am

blueNorange wrote:what a coward(the cop)

Who the fuq are you to make a statement like this? Do you know ANYTHING at all about the woman?

Stick to basketball discussions bruh.
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Post#775 » by HighRyzer83 » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:56 am

This is ridiculous, players shouldn't get paid until they play unless injured. Unable to play due to off court issues should result in forfeiture of contract
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#776 » by JXL » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:57 am

NYKinMIA wrote:
blueNorange wrote:what a coward(the cop)

Who the fuq are you make a statement like this? Do you know ANYTHING at all about the woman?

Stick to basketball discussions bruh.


bNo is a HUUUUUGE troll. Still don't get why he's not banned or suspended.
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Post#777 » by kingquan316 » Thu Oct 13, 2016 2:23 am

HighRyzer83 wrote:This is ridiculous, players shouldn't get paid until they play unless injured. Unable to play due to off court issues should result in forfeiture of contract


If Rose gets wrongly accused of something, he shouldn't be losing money. Now if he's guilty of it, then sure, but he should keep every penny until a verdict is reach regardless of how much time he misses on the court.
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Post#778 » by mrcalzone » Thu Oct 13, 2016 3:02 am

what happened to bNo, he was a normal poster, then he was a normal poster who sounded kinda disgruntled, then he turned into a slight troll, now hes a full blown troll.
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#779 » by BKlutch » Thu Oct 13, 2016 3:30 am

JXL wrote:
NYKinMIA wrote:
blueNorange wrote:what a coward(the cop)

Who the fuq are you make a statement like this? Do you know ANYTHING at all about the woman?

Stick to basketball discussions bruh.


bNo is a HUUUUUGE troll. Still don't get why he's not banned or suspended.

He seems to only get his kicks from trying to upset us. He isn't really smart or anything - he's rarely right. But trolling a cop who killed herself - that's really beyond believe. What a troubled guy. Very sorry he's on this board.
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#780 » by blueNorange » Thu Oct 13, 2016 3:57 am

BKlutch wrote:
JXL wrote:
NYKinMIA wrote:Who the fuq are you make a statement like this? Do you know ANYTHING at all about the woman?

Stick to basketball discussions bruh.


bNo is a HUUUUUGE troll. Still don't get why he's not banned or suspended.

He seems to only get his kicks from trying to upset us. He isn't really smart or anything - he's rarely right. But trolling a cop who killed herself - that's really beyond believe. What a troubled guy. Very sorry he's on this board.

you just insulted me, yet i've never insulted you.

but who's the troll? i don't bash anyone because i don't like their opinions, i just accept them as what they are and post my own opinion. i don't expect you to agree, but that's the point of a message board. different opinions. i'm sorry if my posts offend you, as i said before i don't mean to insult posters ... that's against the rules.
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