Knicks not ruling out DRose extension later in the season

[Dkillanyk4lyf]

He is playing well, but will never be a max player, ever again. I tell you how it will go down, he will want a max, the Knicks will refuse to give it to him, he'll test the market, realize that he will not get a max anywhere, and sign for 3/60, or something like that. That would probably still be overpay. If he gets injured of course, all of this becomes irrelevant. It all starts with him staying healthy all season and playing this well.

with $30m max deals, 3/$60m isn't an overpay for a guy like rose performing to his capabilities. he will test the market for his services if we let him hit free agency after a healthy season.

as has been asked... what better options are out there? we're either going to have to bring him back on as favorable a deal as possible or let him walk and take a step back in our backcourt situation.

we let rose walk and it's free ron baker. jennings will probably want to stay and play FT PG, which, as much as i love dude, frightens the hell out of me.

jrue

Is that a joke??..theirs no way in hell im taking jrue over drose.

[DOT]

He is playing well, but will never be a max player, ever again. I tell you how it will go down, he will want a max, the Knicks will refuse to give it to him, he'll test the market, realize that he will not get a max anywhere, and sign for 3/60, or something like that. That would probably still be overpay. If he gets injured of course, all of this becomes irrelevant. It all starts with him staying healthy all season and playing this well.

with $30m max deals, 3/$60m isn't an overpay for a guy like rose performing to his capabilities. he will test the market for his services if we let him hit free agency after a healthy season.

as has been asked... what better options are out there? we're either going to have to bring him back on as favorable a deal as possible or let him walk and take a step back in our backcourt situation.

we let rose walk and it's free ron baker. jennings will probably want to stay and play FT PG, which, as much as i love dude, frightens the hell out of me.

jrue

Looking at their stats, Jrue would be a slight upgrade, but not much else, and for people who complain about Roses injury history, he's played in about 40 more games than Jrue since the 2014 season

[F N 11]

Ill have to say we wait until the end of the season. Give us a healthy season first and make the decision at the end. Only right. Would hate to lose him but we have to be smart still.

[Jeff Van Gully]

with $30m max deals, 3/$60m isn't an overpay for a guy like rose performing to his capabilities. he will test the market for his services if we let him hit free agency after a healthy season.

as has been asked... what better options are out there? we're either going to have to bring him back on as favorable a deal as possible or let him walk and take a step back in our backcourt situation.

we let rose walk and it's free ron baker. jennings will probably want to stay and play FT PG, which, as much as i love dude, frightens the hell out of me.

jrue

Looking at their stats, Jrue would be a slight upgrade, but not much else, and for people who complain about Roses injury history, he's played in about 40 more games than Jrue since the 2014 season

nah, yo. can't let that slide. jrue holiday ALWAYS injured. rose has had individual instances that have taken time to recover from. jrue misses like half of every season. i like him, but i'm more concerned about his ability to stay on the floor than rose's at this point in their careers.

[Jeff Van Gully]

Ill have to say we wait until the end of the season. Give us a healthy season first and make the decision at the end. Only right. Would hate to lose him but we have to be smart still.

agreed. i think that's how this is going to go. but the asking price could be lower around all-star break than during the offseason.

if dude pushes the team out of the first round with legit all-star numbers, max request is coming. he might go for that $20m per around the break.

interesting stuff to think about.

[F N 11]

Ill have to say we wait until the end of the season. Give us a healthy season first and make the decision at the end. Only right. Would hate to lose him but we have to be smart still.

agreed. i think that's how this is going to go. but the asking price could be lower around all-star break than during the offseason.

if dude pushes the team out of the first round with legit all-star numbers, max request is coming. he might go for that $20m per around the break.

interesting stuff to think about.

I think his extension is 3/75 Dont matter, he will command money. Especially if he's healthy al season without structural damage.

[Jeff Van Gully]

Ill have to say we wait until the end of the season. Give us a healthy season first and make the decision at the end. Only right. Would hate to lose him but we have to be smart still.

agreed. i think that's how this is going to go. but the asking price could be lower around all-star break than during the offseason.

if dude pushes the team out of the first round with legit all-star numbers, max request is coming. he might go for that $20m per around the break.

interesting stuff to think about.

I think his extension is 3/75 Dont matter, he will command money. Especially if he's healthy al season without structural damage.

hmmmm... that deal is not really as bad as it sounds with next year's max/cap figures. need to see more of the team's progress tho. we should probably play it [un]safe and see how this group fleshes out. if he looks like an invaluable linchpin, then make the offer. if there's room for competition, wait. but i can't see a deal for a healthy d-rose being for much less than $25m per. I could see him getting 4/100 somewhere.

[Newyorknick94]

Don't we have his bird rights?

[blueNorange]

Rose just isn't a good passer. And it will be a gigantic problem for a player that is a couple of years away from turning 30, where his athleticism and speed will start to fell off. And with his injury history, risk just isn't even close to worth it.

And to be honest, I don't even think Rose will want to be here. He will have a fine year, someone will for sure overpay for him, so he can be 2nd or even 1st guy on their team. because of his name. In NY, he is bound to be a 3rd give for years to come..

He's said he wants to finish his career as a Knick.

what was the question the media asked him?

because rose can't say 'new york sucks, i can't wait until i'm a free agent'

PR 101, if you watch new york sports you understand how the media game works. a great attribute melo has was handling the media well, lebron james before 2010 was dreadful and always looked bad ... then he hired a PR relations and is now media savvy.

[NYKAL]

^It wasn't in response to the question. He was talking about New Yorker's and the interactions he'd had and its made him feel so at home and welcome that he wants to stay. Why does there always have to be an agenda BnO?

[blueNorange]

^It wasn't in response to the question. He was talking about New Yorker's and the interactions he'd had and its made him feel so at home and welcome that he wants to stay. Why does there always have to be an agenda BnO?

so rose got infront of a camera willy nilly and just said this?

[blueNorange]

^It wasn't in response to the question. He was talking about New Yorker's and the interactions he'd had and its made him feel so at home and welcome that he wants to stay. Why does there always have to be an agenda BnO?

so rose got infront of a camera willy nilly and just said this?

god bless google, did a search ... rose was asked why he wants to stay in new york, so he gave a cliche comment.

[NYKAL]

^It wasn't in response to the question. He was talking about New Yorker's and the interactions he'd had and its made him feel so at home and welcome that he wants to stay. Why does there always have to be an agenda BnO?

so rose got infront of a camera willy nilly and just said this?

wow, PUSH THAT AGENDA BRA, PUSH THE **** OUT OF IT...lmao B


btw....WHO the **** started a Fire Clyde thread. Pull their Knicks fan card and send them packing.

[NYKMentality85]

All i know is Rose has been balling out.

[dakomish23]

Id rather just give him 1 year maxes annually than to be locked in to a long term deal at a slightly lower rate.

Won't happen though. I see 3 years 70 mil happening

[blueNorange]

All i know is Rose has been balling out.

as he should be, if you're in a contract year and you don't ball out then truly something went wrong.

[NYKMentality85]

rose is 28, but his knees aren't.

This is nothing more than a spiteful/mean spirited post. To mock Rose's previous knee injuries the very next day, after dropping 25 points off 12/16 from the field (.750%); just goes to show what type of agenda and motive(s) this poster truly has.

Below are quotes of which he's "contributed to" throughout the course of this Derrick Rose thread. What's scary (more like sad) is that these posts below are only from this (1) single thread. Unfourtnately he takes these same exact antics into each and every thread. Which is why I'm exposing of him.

only this franchise would be dumb enough to be fooled by a player playing for a contract.

this thread needs nykmentality saying something along the lines "derrick rose is back to an elite level

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(long winded post about nothing)
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derrick rose is worth 50mm per year and has made melo round back into form. i think he'll win an mvp this year."

huh?

do you not see how terrible he runs an offense?

do you not see that if he's not scoring, he's looking for his buddy melo?

derrick rose is everything this team should be against, has beens who still think they're entitled to call their number.

derrick rose isn't a good point guard, why is that hard to understand ? we're not making it up, he's clearly done and it's obvious to the eye.

don't show stats to NLR, it'll give him a headache.

if jrue's a shooting guard, what does that make derrick rose?

a shooting guard that can't shoot?

how could there be worse choices when rose is rated as one of the worst pg's in the nba

i mean it's like you guys are so battered that you're just grateful for anything. derrick rose isn't a good basketball player.

which is a barely .500 team, but enough to keep melo and fans that accept mediocrity happy with an 8th seed and being in the opening graphics for tnt playoff basketball.

oh and don't forget the threads trashing charles barkley because he thinks this team sucks. as always charles is right about the knicks.

sign patty mills and re-sign ennings, those 2 would be 10x's better than derrick rose.

:lol:

can keep spewing whatever you want, derrick rose isn't good and there's stats that support this.

he's not efficient and has tunnel vision.

he's not dead last like Derrick Rose

go ahead, still doesn't mean rose isn't trash

also rolo is 227th in the entire nba in RPM, while rose is 376th in the entire nba ... so whatever point you're trying to prove, keep in mind that rolo is more productive on the court than rose.

wow and you tell people that you're very knowledgable. okay bud, whatever makes you sleep at night.

one bricks 6 shots, the other bricks 16 shots
one runs an offense, the other is too dumb to run one
one plays defense, the other gets beat then blames his teammates

okay, how does this have to do with derrick rose being horrible?

so you agree rose is terrible?

but he doesn't make the team better, that's the thing.

rule of thumb in every sport, you never trust a players production during a contract year.

knicks re-signing derrick rose would be a new york knicks blunder of a move.

dude is in a contract year and still can't put up good numbers, his ts% is .509 which is horrible, you can sign a guy from the nbdl that can put a better ts%.

because felton and calderon were terrible, we have to accept derrick rose who's also terrible, just not felton/calderon terrible?

it's like kicking a heroin habit and becoming an alcoholic.

rose isn't a good scoring guard, he's way too inefficient. his defense isn't good. 20 ppg but completely empty. and once again, derrick rose is on a contract year.

rose isn't a point guard, even before the injuries he wasn't good. he always played with hinrich or noah that handled the passing duties.

i don't care how much he scores, it doesn't change who he is

oh, a bulls poster keeping tabs on derrick rose.

let me guess, you loved(and still do) the home town kid.

other creators because rose isn't good at creating for others.

I mean he's done this before, he's the ultimate troll.

he says outrageous things and calls people out by a game by game basis, he's already doing the 'bumping up old threads' thing again.

what spots, he does 2 things

put his head down and drive to the basket then jump in the air and pass it out when the lanes are closed

or

put his head down and drive to the basket

ricky is under contract.

patty mills is a better point guard than derrick rose

umm, glad you know how to google someone and look at stats.

he's just mocking me, no worries.

so a bench player is better than derrick rose?

yeah i gotta admit, that is funny. mostly sad though, but funny nonetheless on derrick rose's part. man, a bench player is more productive than you.

second no starks and ewing wouldn't, i never saw them play but based off documentaries they were a TEAM and played DEFENSE. they would hate rose for not playing within the offense and not playing any defense.

"hey derrick, i know you can only run what 1-2 maybe 3 plays but don't worry. it's not your fault. kristaps needs to learn how to pass the ball better, you're fine. just keep you head down and keep driving to the basket."

ketchup like tomato sauce homie.

And there you have it folks. Just about each post that bNo has posted within this Derrick Rose thread, consisting of nothing but repetitive hatred for that of Derrick Rose with multiple posts containing little to no substance whatsoever; other than more Derrick Rose hatred.

Mind you this is all coming from the same person who considered that the potential drafting of Steph Curry to N.Y as an "epic failure", Jennings as nothing more than a "10th man on everyone elses bench" and Derrick (freaking) Williams as being "better than any current Knicks bench player" ala Jennings, Kuzminskas, Hernangomez, O'Quinn & Holiday.

Therefore his player evaluation on players (such as Rose) should be taken with a grain of salt & mocked at the same time.

[Woodsanity]

No thanks yuck.

[blueNorange]

rose is 28, but his knees aren't.

This is nothing more than a spiteful/mean spirited post. To mock Rose's previous knee injuries the very next day, after dropping 25 points off 12/16 from the field (.750%); just goes to show what type of agenda and motive(s) this poster truly has.

Below are quotes of which he's "contributed to" throughout the course of this Derrick Rose thread. What's scary (more like sad) is that these posts below are only from this (1) single thread. Unfourtnately he takes these same exact antics into each and every thread. Which is why I'm exposing of him.

only this franchise would be dumb enough to be fooled by a player playing for a contract.

this thread needs nykmentality saying something along the lines "derrick rose is back to an elite level

..

.
...
...
...

(long winded post about nothing)
....

...
.

derrick rose is worth 50mm per year and has made melo round back into form. i think he'll win an mvp this year."

huh?

do you not see how terrible he runs an offense?

do you not see that if he's not scoring, he's looking for his buddy melo?

derrick rose is everything this team should be against, has beens who still think they're entitled to call their number.

derrick rose isn't a good point guard, why is that hard to understand ? we're not making it up, he's clearly done and it's obvious to the eye.

don't show stats to NLR, it'll give him a headache.

if jrue's a shooting guard, what does that make derrick rose?

a shooting guard that can't shoot?

how could there be worse choices when rose is rated as one of the worst pg's in the nba

i mean it's like you guys are so battered that you're just grateful for anything. derrick rose isn't a good basketball player.

which is a barely .500 team, but enough to keep melo and fans that accept mediocrity happy with an 8th seed and being in the opening graphics for tnt playoff basketball.

oh and don't forget the threads trashing charles barkley because he thinks this team sucks. as always charles is right about the knicks.

sign patty mills and re-sign ennings, those 2 would be 10x's better than derrick rose.

:lol:

can keep spewing whatever you want, derrick rose isn't good and there's stats that support this.

he's not efficient and has tunnel vision.

he's not dead last like Derrick Rose

go ahead, still doesn't mean rose isn't trash

also rolo is 227th in the entire nba in RPM, while rose is 376th in the entire nba ... so whatever point you're trying to prove, keep in mind that rolo is more productive on the court than rose.

wow and you tell people that you're very knowledgable. okay bud, whatever makes you sleep at night.

one bricks 6 shots, the other bricks 16 shots
one runs an offense, the other is too dumb to run one
one plays defense, the other gets beat then blames his teammates

okay, how does this have to do with derrick rose being horrible?

so you agree rose is terrible?

but he doesn't make the team better, that's the thing. [quote/]

rule of thumb in every sport, you never trust a players production during a contract year.

knicks re-signing derrick rose would be a new york knicks blunder of a move.

dude is in a contract year and still can't put up good numbers, his ts% is .509 which is horrible, you can sign a guy from the nbdl that can put a better ts%.

because felton and calderon were terrible, we have to accept derrick rose who's also terrible, just not felton/calderon terrible?

it's like kicking a heroin habit and becoming an alcoholic.

rose isn't a good scoring guard, he's way too inefficient. his defense isn't good. 20 ppg but completely empty. and once again, derrick rose is on a contract year.

rose isn't a point guard, even before the injuries he wasn't good. he always played with hinrich or noah that handled the passing duties.

i don't care how much he scores, it doesn't change who he is

oh, a bulls poster keeping tabs on derrick rose.

let me guess, you loved(and still do) the home town kid.

other creators because rose isn't good at creating for others.

I mean he's done this before, he's the ultimate troll.

he says outrageous things and calls people out by a game by game basis, he's already doing the 'bumping up old threads' thing again.

what spots, he does 2 things

put his head down and drive to the basket then jump in the air and pass it out when the lanes are closed

or

put his head down and drive to the basket

ricky is under contract.

patty mills is a better point guard than derrick rose

umm, glad you know how to google someone and look at stats.

he's just mocking me, no worries.

so a bench player is better than derrick rose?

yeah i gotta admit, that is funny. mostly sad though, but funny nonetheless on derrick rose's part. man, a bench player is more productive than you.

second no starks and ewing wouldn't, i never saw them play but based off documentaries they were a TEAM and played DEFENSE. they would hate rose for not playing within the offense and not playing any defense.

"hey derrick, i know you can only run what 1-2 maybe 3 plays but don't worry. it's not your fault. kristaps needs to learn how to pass the ball better, you're fine. just keep you head down and keep driving to the basket."

ketchup like tomato sauce homie.

And there you have it folks. Just about each post that bNo has posted within this Derrick Rose thread, consisting of nothing but repetitive hatred for that of Derrick Rose with multiple posts containing little to no substance whatsoever; other than more Derrick Rose hatred.

Mind you this is all coming from the same person who considered that the potential drafting of Steph Curry to N.Y as an "epic failure", Jennings as nothing more than a "10th man on everyone elses bench" and Derrick (freaking) Williams as being "better than any current Knicks bench player" ala Jennings, Kuzminskas, Hernangomez, O'Quinn & Holiday.

Therefore his player evaluation on players (such as Rose) should be taken with a grain of salt & mocked at the same time.

ketchup like tomato sauce homie.

[misterfrazier10]

Seems like the best-case scenario is that Melo takes on the lion's share of the creating. He is an underrated passer and if he can be encouraged to play that way then Rose will be freer to create for himself since it is clear he is not a great passer as a backcourt player. I really mean Melo is a better playmaking passer than Rose though Melo has been known as a scorer, volume shooter, chucker etc. But you can't deny that the Knicks are a better team when Melo is racking up 5-6+ assists a game. Last year the Knicks were winning when Melo passed the ball and got more than his career average in assists. Even so, Rose is a very inefficient shooter and is not a great finisher any more.

And then there's how much money he will want versus how much Jackson is willing to pay him. Jackson's leverage is Jennings and a draft pick. I know it's unrealistic but Rose at 16-17 million a year for 3 years would be a good deal, I think.