2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 6) -LOTTO 8/20 DRAFT 10/16!

[Context]

Mitch is a below 60% FT shooter. I cant get excited about his range. I hope he keep shooting only at the rim for the time being.

The fluidity on his shot just looks different than other bigs. He needs to be encouraged to shoot and be confident in it. The ability is there, I don't care if it's against Rec league players that are 5"10", it still doesn't change how something looks and his jumper just looks good. You looks at other bigs and a lot of them don't have that type of fluidity in their shot, not even in pickup games, there's still a lot of mechanical look to their shot.

exactly...its just a matter of practice -which if you do it enough will bring -confidence...Mitch has that special potential-
he just needs to put the work in to completely develop it...

[god shammgod]

Mitch is a below 60% FT shooter. I cant get excited about his range. I hope he keep shooting only at the rim for the time being.

The fluidity on his shot just looks different than other bigs. He needs to be encouraged to shoot and be confident in it. The ability is there, I don't care if it's against Rec league players that are 5"10", it still doesn't change how something looks and his jumper just looks good. You looks at other bigs and a lot of them don't have that type of fluidity in their shot, not even in pickup games, there's still a lot of mechanical look to their shot.

it's why i've always been real high on him. he's way more athletically fluid than your usual 7 footer. not just his shot but how he moves. i see people wanting him to learn post moves but his advantage is speed and nimbleness so working on his shot and handle makes more sense to me.

[mpharris36]

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Really like Josh Green

you like Green or Nesmith more?

I like Green more. Think he's just more versatile and overall a better player. Nesmith is a good shooter but I don't really know what kind of scorer he will be in the NBA. His shot creation isn't all that advanced imo so he looks a lot like a spot up shooter in a 3 and D mold but he's not even that good defensively so I'm not sure where I even stand on him to be honest. Green seems like a more versatile and more upside player.

I'm not as high as green but I can see where you are coming from. I do like versatility I just am not sure if I would weight that above someone that has an elite skill.

[Deeeez Knicks]

mitch just wanted to take his time to get his shot right. he didn't want to end up like y'all faves frank, dennis & randle. good morning melo & mpharris.

I think he was gunning for the fg% record too. Can't even blame him for that. Its pretty damn impressive.

[HEZI]

you like Green or Nesmith more?

I like Green more. Think he's just more versatile and overall a better player. Nesmith is a good shooter but I don't really know what kind of scorer he will be in the NBA. His shot creation isn't all that advanced imo so he looks a lot like a spot up shooter in a 3 and D mold but he's not even that good defensively so I'm not sure where I even stand on him to be honest. Green seems like a more versatile and more upside player.

I'm not as high as you are on green but I can see where you are coming from. I do like versatility I just am not sure if I would weigh that above someone that has an elite skill.

Yeah I do get that but I just don't see what he does or will do on the NBA level to warrant the amount of shots required for the pick to be justified anywhere near the lotto. He's really not a playmaker at all, averaged less than 1 assist in 35 minutes a game with very high usage. Not really much of a defender either. Ball handling and shot creation is meh at best. When projecting Nesmith on the next level he just looks like maybe a taller version of Etwuan Moore, although looking at his stats you could say he's got Buddy Hield potential but his game just doesn't look like it. He looks more like a Doug McDermott type. Not sure that's really worth it taking him that high. Would take a chance on Green because he just looks like a more NBA built athlete, he's quick and explosive and his shot looks really good, ball handling needs work but I see him with better separation ability than Nesmth. Overall as a player when projecting to the next level I just think Green is going to be a better more impactful rotation player in the NBA.

[islanders11040]

Mitch is a below 60% FT shooter. I cant get excited about his range. I hope he keep shooting only at the rim for the time being.

The fluidity on his shot just looks different than other bigs. He needs to be encouraged to shoot and be confident in it. The ability is there, I don't care if it's against Rec league players that are 5"10", it still doesn't change how something looks and his jumper just looks good. You looks at other bigs and a lot of them don't have that type of fluidity in their shot, not even in pickup games, there's still a lot of mechanical look to their shot.

Very true but its kinda BS how his FT% went DOWN last season compared to his rookie season on a similar ft rate. I mean come on. If there is all this hype on a developing jump shot at least match the previous years ft%.

[mpharris36]

I like Green more. Think he's just more versatile and overall a better player. Nesmith is a good shooter but I don't really know what kind of scorer he will be in the NBA. His shot creation isn't all that advanced imo so he looks a lot like a spot up shooter in a 3 and D mold but he's not even that good defensively so I'm not sure where I even stand on him to be honest. Green seems like a more versatile and more upside player.

I'm not as high as you are on green but I can see where you are coming from. I do like versatility I just am not sure if I would weigh that above someone that has an elite skill.

Yeah I do get that but I just don't see what he does or will do on the NBA level to warrant the amount of shots required for the pick to be justified anywhere near the lotto. He's really not a playmaker at all, averaged less than 1 assist in 35 minutes a game with very high usage. Not really much of a defender either. Ball handling and shot creation is meh at best. When projecting Nesmith on the next level he just looks like maybe a taller version of Etwuan Moore, although looking at his stats you could say he's got Buddy Hield potential but his game just doesn't look like it. He looks more like a Doug McDermott type. Not sure that's really worth it taking him that high. Would take a chance on Green because he just looks like a more NBA built athlete, he's quick and explosive and his shot looks really good, ball handling needs work but I see him with better separation ability than Nesmth. Overall as a player when projecting to the next level I just think Green is going to be a better more impactful rotation player in the NBA.

I think Nesmith is Joe Harris with a little more scoring punch.

I mean 23 ppg on 14 shots is nothing to scoff at. And Nesmith just isn't a shooter. He finishes decent around the basket and is good in transition. He also is very good off the dribble too and in movement situations. So this isn't a Tony Snell situation where he just camps out at the 3 point line and doesn't do anything else.

You don't score over 20 pts ppg in college as just a stand alone jump shooter.

[HEZI]

I'm not as high as you are on green but I can see where you are coming from. I do like versatility I just am not sure if I would weigh that above someone that has an elite skill.

Yeah I do get that but I just don't see what he does or will do on the NBA level to warrant the amount of shots required for the pick to be justified anywhere near the lotto. He's really not a playmaker at all, averaged less than 1 assist in 35 minutes a game with very high usage. Not really much of a defender either. Ball handling and shot creation is meh at best. When projecting Nesmith on the next level he just looks like maybe a taller version of Etwuan Moore, although looking at his stats you could say he's got Buddy Hield potential but his game just doesn't look like it. He looks more like a Doug McDermott type. Not sure that's really worth it taking him that high. Would take a chance on Green because he just looks like a more NBA built athlete, he's quick and explosive and his shot looks really good, ball handling needs work but I see him with better separation ability than Nesmth. Overall as a player when projecting to the next level I just think Green is going to be a better more impactful rotation player in the NBA.

I think Nesmith is Joe Harris with a little more scoring punch.

I mean 23 ppg on 14 shots is nothing to scoff at. And Nesmith just isn't a shooter. He finishes decent around the basket and is good in transition. He also is very good off the dribble too and in movement situations. So this isn't a Tony Snell situation where he just camps out at the 3 point line and doesn't do anything else.

You don't score over 20 pts ppg in college as just a stand alone jump shooter.

I just don't see it. Doug McDermott averaged 23 / 23 / 27 - points per game in his sophomore / junior / sernior years and he's nothing but a spot up shooter in the NBA. It's more than just college numbers, like I said earlier I just don't see it in Nesmith's game on the pro level as him doing much other than spot up shooting and I just don't see him being a high volume shooter in the NBA unless he shows some other skills to warrant many minutes.

[blueNorange]

i'm not asking for ball handling and iso moves from mitch, but if he can develop a mid range game ala amar'e it's a rap for the league.

[Orange Mamba]

Speaking of Mitch

[god shammgod]

mitch gonna be splashing on wiseman's stone footed punk a$$ and it's gonna be glorious

[3toheadmelo]

mitch gonna be splashing on wiseman's stone footed punk a$$ and it's gonna be glorious

Yeah he’s gonna be unstoppable like this guy here

Watch on YouTube

[knickstape4ever]

you like Green or Nesmith more?

I like Green more. Think he's just more versatile and overall a better player. Nesmith is a good shooter but I don't really know what kind of scorer he will be in the NBA. His shot creation isn't all that advanced imo so he looks a lot like a spot up shooter in a 3 and D mold but he's not even that good defensively so I'm not sure where I even stand on him to be honest. Green seems like a more versatile and more upside player.

I'm not as high as green but I can see where you are coming from. I do like versatility I just am not sure if I would weight that above someone that has an elite skill.

Nesmith>Green for me b/c shooting

Green is a CAA client, maybe important for this FO, maybe not, who knows

[Richard4444]

Speaking of Mitch

Its reminds me last year getting all excited about Dennis Smith Jr shooting videos...

[DaGawd]

Right now when I think of Mitch shooting in an actual NBA game all I keep remembering is that airball he shot that one time in I believe pre season of his rookie year... The off season videos are nice to gossip about.. but don't mean a thing until we see it used in game

[HEZI]

Right now when I think of Mitch shooting in an actual NBA game all I keep remembering is that airball he shot that one time in I believe pre season of his rookie year... The off season videos are nice to gossip about.. but don't mean a thing until we see it used in game

Its why I keep saying the coaches need to encourage him to do so. I doubt any of the coaches actually believed in his shot nor did he show much confidence in it. If they allow him to shoot and dont bench him for attempting shots and let him show if he can shoot then he might become more confident in it.

They let Julius Randle shoot and brick all game long, so what we got to lose? I'm sure Mitch can shoot 3s at a 20 something percent clip too if he got the attempts up

[mpharris36]

I want Mitchel Robinson to shoot over 70% from the FT line..I think after that we can start getting to the point where I feel comfortable him shooting 3's. Get to a decent FT rate because that is very important for bigs so teams don't just foul him and he isn't a liability in that sense.

[3toheadmelo]

Mitch has a ugly low release jumper. No wonder he airballs in real games

[Worst_to_First]

Mitch has a ugly low release jumper. No wonder he airballs in real games

Yeah that clip was not at all impressive to be honest. I don’t know if it is because I got burned by that DSJ clips a year ago but still.

Mitch is ok as he is. I hate putting added expectations on him or making him out to be something that he is not.

[Worst_to_First]

mitch gonna be splashing on wiseman's stone footed punk a$$ and it's gonna be glorious

This is probably Mitch’s only chance to score on Wiseman consistently on a 1-on-1 situation.