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Post#761 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Sat Apr 26, 2025 10:58 pm

god shammgod wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:The talk about this team is weird, you'd think this wasn't year 1 of it. Not only that, but some of the teams being named are going to get suplexed by the the luxury tax worse than us, it needs to be repeated over and over again the Celtics are set to be the most expensive team in American sports history, beating the previous record by nearly $170 million. Their luxury tax bill is going to be more expensive than our actual team :lol:

The Cavs are also going to lose Ty Jerome, he's an unrestricted free agent, that may not seem like much but he was a huge reason why they could scale back on Mitchell's minutes. The other teams, Clippers, Lakers, Warriors are either old or have a critical core player that is old. The Thunder are obviously the best set up team, but there's a window here where we will have a chance with 2-3 real cracks at it.


well who knows what happens in the future. some teams get worse and some teams get better. that doesn't guarantee that we will. boston is going to lose someone eventually. that's true. but the spurs will get better. the rockets will probably make a trade and get better. it doesn't mean we're going up in the rankings.

sometimes, i'm disappointed in you :lol: because unlike a lot of people on here i know you know what you're talking about. but you cosign these guys who don't. you know this isn't a top 5 roster. boo this man :lol:





All we need is one year for things to break our way, that Nuggets team that won a title didn't beat a single 50-win team, they went through a murderer's row of mid. Next season, we have to get the 1 seed to avoid the 2-3 matchup.

I'm not co-signing a top 5 roster, I'm just not negating anything they say 8-) Why would I go against my political base? No new taxes and all that jazz. Couple moves around the edges, a better coach and things breaking our way? It could happen.
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Post#762 » by WaltFrazier » Sat Apr 26, 2025 11:02 pm

JayTWill wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:The talk about this team is weird, you'd think this wasn't year 1 of it. Not only that, but some of the teams being named are going to get suplexed by the the luxury tax worse than us, it needs to be repeated over and over again the Celtics are set to be the most expensive team in American sports history, beating the previous record by nearly $170 million. Their luxury tax bill is going to be more expensive than our actual team :lol:

The Cavs are also going to lose Ty Jerome, he's an unrestricted free agent, that may not seem like much but he was a huge reason why they could scale back on Mitchell's minutes. The other teams, Clippers, Lakers, Warriors are either old or have a critical core player that is old. The Thunder are obviously the best set up team, but there's a window here where we will have a chance with 2-3 real cracks at it.


I agree with you but it is a bit concerning to have gone all in on this group that is all in their prime and currently be in a battle with a Pistons team that is younger, has much more room to improve and will have a ton more cap space and assets available to get better than the Knicks have. Last year it was the Knicks just had to catch up to the Celtics. This year it is the Knicks just have to catch up to the Celtics and Cavs. Next year it could possibly be the Knicks just have to catch up to the Celtics, Cavs, Pistons or Magic or some other team. Who knows.

The Pistons jumped from the worst team in the league to being closer to the Knicks than the Knicks are to the top of the conference. We aren't only competing with the teams in front of us and i'm not sure how much room this team has to grow. We not only lack draft assets but we don't have a high upside young player on the team unless someone unexpectedly blossoms.

This supports the idea of a new coach making the team better without much change to the roster.
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Post#763 » by The KnicksFix » Sat Apr 26, 2025 11:09 pm

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god shammgod wrote:Then that’s even more reason to wait for someone like Giannis before we give up all our picks

why do you always talk like its some kind of certainty that Giannis becomes avalable?


The writing is on the wall. He was quoted recently as saying he really wants to get a 2nd championship. He has pressured them to make deals in the past by lowkey talking about leaving. There are no more deals to make. Half the bucks team are free agents, that team cost a fortune and they have no assets to make trades. They’re ****. I actually think that they might be relived if Giannis asks out. They’ll want picks though since they traded away all of theirs.


Even if he shakes loose, there’s no certainty the NY deal would have got done. Say we offered the same 5 picks for him, OKC could have offered the truckload of picks with young talent. Okc would have beaten any offer we could have

Also who’s to say he doesn’t force himself to another team such as Denver with Jokic?
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Post#764 » by JayTWill » Sat Apr 26, 2025 11:09 pm

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JayTWill wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:The talk about this team is weird, you'd think this wasn't year 1 of it. Not only that, but some of the teams being named are going to get suplexed by the the luxury tax worse than us, it needs to be repeated over and over again the Celtics are set to be the most expensive team in American sports history, beating the previous record by nearly $170 million. Their luxury tax bill is going to be more expensive than our actual team :lol:

The Cavs are also going to lose Ty Jerome, he's an unrestricted free agent, that may not seem like much but he was a huge reason why they could scale back on Mitchell's minutes. The other teams, Clippers, Lakers, Warriors are either old or have a critical core player that is old. The Thunder are obviously the best set up team, but there's a window here where we will have a chance with 2-3 real cracks at it.


I agree with you but it is a bit concerning to have gone all in on this group that is all in their prime and currently be in a battle with a Pistons team that is younger, has much more room to improve and will have a ton more cap space and assets available to get better than the Knicks have. Last year it was the Knicks just had to catch up to the Celtics. This year it is the Knicks just have to catch up to the Celtics and Cavs. Next year it could possibly be the Knicks just have to catch up to the Celtics, Cavs, Pistons or Magic or some other team. Who knows.

The Pistons jumped from the worst team in the league to being closer to the Knicks than the Knicks are to the top of the conference. We aren't only competing with the teams in front of us and i'm not sure how much room this team has to grow. We not only lack draft assets but we don't have a high upside young player on the team unless someone unexpectedly blossoms.

This supports the idea of a new coach making the team better without much change to the roster.


That's possible but whatever move they make next has to be a good move as the team has very little room for error now.
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Post#765 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Sat Apr 26, 2025 11:09 pm

JayTWill wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:The talk about this team is weird, you'd think this wasn't year 1 of it. Not only that, but some of the teams being named are going to get suplexed by the the luxury tax worse than us, it needs to be repeated over and over again the Celtics are set to be the most expensive team in American sports history, beating the previous record by nearly $170 million. Their luxury tax bill is going to be more expensive than our actual team :lol:

The Cavs are also going to lose Ty Jerome, he's an unrestricted free agent, that may not seem like much but he was a huge reason why they could scale back on Mitchell's minutes. The other teams, Clippers, Lakers, Warriors are either old or have a critical core player that is old. The Thunder are obviously the best set up team, but there's a window here where we will have a chance with 2-3 real cracks at it.


I agree with you but it is a bit concerning to have gone all in on this group that is all in their prime and currently be in a battle with a Pistons team that is younger, has much more room to improve and will have a ton more cap space and assets available to get better than the Knicks have. Last year it was the Knicks just had to catch up to the Celtics. This year it is the Knicks just have to catch up to the Celtics and Cavs. Next year it could possibly be the Knicks just have to catch up to the Celtics, Cavs, Pistons or Magic or some other team. Who knows.

The Pistons jumped from the worst team in the league to being closer to the Knicks than the Knicks are to the top of the conference. We aren't only competing with the teams in front of us and i'm not sure how much room this team has to grow. We not only lack draft assets but we don't have a high upside young player on the team unless someone unexpectedly blossoms.



It's concerning to an extent, but then I look at how few threes we take and I'm reminded of the elephant in the room. We're 14th in the playoffs in threes attempted per game, the only teams worse are the Magic and Nuggets.

Progress isn't linear in the NBA for young teams, the Pistons could end up a 50+ win team next year, or they could fizzle out like the Hawks. I just think we're better situated than a lot of the teams behind us, even the Pacers have a tough decision to make this summer with Turner. There's moves we can make with keeping the core intact, maybe hire a shooting coach for Josh too :lol:
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Post#766 » by sol537 » Sat Apr 26, 2025 11:47 pm

Next year should be easy for the Knicks.

->If Giannis is available, get him in Portis for KAT and Bridges.

-> If he’s not available, stand pat and add a solid tax mle bench piece.

-> Bring in a coaching upgrade over Thibs and move Hart to his natural energy bench role.

We should be able to get to 56-58 wins with those moves alone. Of course Mikal should be extended as well. We could make ECF or the Finals next season with prudent tweaks.
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Post#767 » by K_ick_God » Sat Apr 26, 2025 11:49 pm

You don’t have to think this is a top 5 roster to know the Knicks are not gonna save a pick every other year while Brunson loses a year.

They overpaid for MB, maybe could have targeted someone better. Save picks for when and whom?
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Post#768 » by WaltFrazier » Sun Apr 27, 2025 12:00 am

Batum and other Clippers have gone so cold this half. They've had the looks to be in the game still
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Post#769 » by Montmorencie » Sun Apr 27, 2025 12:08 am

Jokic is picking apart top 3 defense, Zubac (historically his best opponent) while coaching and no Westbrook and basically Jamal.
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Post#770 » by robillionaire » Sun Apr 27, 2025 12:10 am

We do have a top 5 roster because we had the 5th best record in the nba. And the rockets only had 1 more win than us and that’s because they got lucky Brunson missed those games at the end of the season so probably a top 4 roster

“Power rankings” are mythical and geared toward recency bias and some dudes opinion it’s not a real metric
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Post#771 » by Buttah304 » Sun Apr 27, 2025 12:20 am

Desmond Bane just put up a treacherous eye sore of a 4 game series for a player fresh off a 200M contract.
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Post#772 » by Montmorencie » Sun Apr 27, 2025 12:29 am

Jamal Murray is absolutely horrible
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Post#773 » by Montmorencie » Sun Apr 27, 2025 12:33 am

Denver is the worst good team ever
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Post#774 » by knicks94 » Sun Apr 27, 2025 12:47 am

The Nuggets really got lucky.
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Post#775 » by HEZI » Sun Apr 27, 2025 12:47 am

This is one of the craziest finishes to a game I’ve seen
DENVER NUGGETS
Jamal Murray/Ty Jerome/Dante Exum
Zach Lavine/Ayo Dosunmu/Corey Kispert
Aaron Gordon/Harrison Barnes/Isaac Okoro
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Post#776 » by Buttah304 » Sun Apr 27, 2025 12:47 am

This forum is the best because nobody knows anything. It’s truly a beautiful disaster.

A section of the crowd would have shipped all our assets for Embiid. Another group would have done it for KD or seriously considered PG-13. People were pushing for guys like Dejounte, Ingram and LaVine. I think one dude absolutely loves Jerami Grant. Another group would have sent RJ/IQ and 3 unprotected picks for Donovan but you don’t have OG in that scenario. iHart was gone no matter what. Giannis is out here collecting first round exits like infinity stones. I will gladly admit I wanted Booker for YEARS but his squad just went 36-46.

Let’s appreciate that we are Knicks fans and we never had a chance at glory to begin with

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Post#777 » by Iron Mantis » Sun Apr 27, 2025 12:47 am

Thrilling ending. Series tied.
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Post#778 » by Montmorencie » Sun Apr 27, 2025 12:47 am

They won but this team is doomed.
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Post#779 » by Guano » Sun Apr 27, 2025 12:54 am

Buttah304 wrote:This forum is the best because nobody knows anything. It’s truly a beautiful disaster.

A section of the crowd would have shipped all our assets for Embiid. Another group would have done it for KD or seriously considered PG-13. People were pushing for guys like Dejounte, Ingram and LaVine. I think one dude absolutely loves Jerami Grant. Another group would have sent RJ/IQ and 3 unprotected picks for Donovan but you don’t have OG in that scenario. iHart was gone no matter what. Giannis is out here collecting first round exits like infinity stones. I will gladly admit I wanted Booker for YEARS but his squad just went 36-46.

Let’s appreciate that we are Knicks fans and we never had a chance at glory to begin with

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This is an excellent post.


meLo some of your favs are mentioned.
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Post#780 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Apr 27, 2025 1:18 am

Buttah304 wrote:This forum is the best because nobody knows anything. It’s truly a beautiful disaster.

A section of the crowd would have shipped all our assets for Embiid. Another group would have done it for KD or seriously considered PG-13. People were pushing for guys like Dejounte, Ingram and LaVine. I think one dude absolutely loves Jerami Grant. Another group would have sent RJ/IQ and 3 unprotected picks for Donovan but you don’t have OG in that scenario. iHart was gone no matter what. Giannis is out here collecting first round exits like infinity stones. I will gladly admit I wanted Booker for YEARS but his squad just went 36-46.

Let’s appreciate that we are Knicks fans and we never had a chance at glory to begin with

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We have KAT, Brunson and OG and people want to blow it up for Giannis. :banghead:

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