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Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II

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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#781 » by GONYK » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:32 pm

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Feed Phil's ego


No, it is to tame KP's


I would think that would be better to handle that behind closed doors or other ways. Its all just making this franchise look even more crazy and disfunctional...had to have known the media and fans would run with this. Perception can be just as real as reality at times.


I bet Phil would agree, which is why he has been trying to handle it behind closed doors since April.

At what point do you make your point?

Phil isn't even doing anything crazy. It is in his job description to entertain offers from other teams. Is it crazy to simply not declare a player who is showing character concerns untouchable?
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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#782 » by Dr. Detfink » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:32 pm

K P 6 wrote:With 1 move Phil can rebuild in 1 night. Thats crazy to think of.


My mind is reeling from that prospect. Don't get me wrong, I hope the Knicks keep KP but this team is not property of the people. The overpriced tickets and endorsements aren't paid by the common man. It's MSG's team. This is Phil's show. So let's see where the chips fall if he IS that intent on doing things HIS way.
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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#783 » by Jstock12 » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:32 pm

It's much easier to surround a franchise player with talent than it is to acquire a franchise player. That's why you don't trade a franchise level talent for multiple inferior talents.
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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#786 » by JohnStarksTheDunk » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:33 pm

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BklyntoTNeck wrote:Screw Ainge....no deal unless its #3, 2018 Bk's pick, & Brown. They can keep Crowder. You don't trade a guy like KP to a DIVISION rival for nothing less than that. This benefits Boston to much for them to say no. If not, keep KP and move on.


Nope. I want the #7 Minny pick also, that's being talked about.

#3 this year, #7 this year, Nets pick next year + Jaylen Brown

If Boston refuses, oh well. We keep a legit superstar prospect.


This. Worst case scenario we keep Porzingis to build around.


I agree with this.
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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#787 » by Yankeeknickfan » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:34 pm

K P 6 wrote:If Brown and Jackson turn out to be studs I can see them being so Anti Boston and reppin NYC hard.

But KP has more stud potential than both of them
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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#788 » by Red Vines » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:34 pm

And let's be honest--Phil realizes the only way to add multiple talented pieces is trading KP... Because nobody is signing...sad but true.
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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#789 » by god shammgod » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:34 pm

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Whether or not Phil is beefing with KP, Phil should be listening if another team wants to unload their war chest for KP.


so it was just to make kp nervous but now he's actually listening ? how it that different than just shopping him ? the nets 2 picks are not even that a great deal. you have no idea what you're getting. a player that has shown something is always better. that's not a "i have to take it" deal in any way. that's i "i did pretty good for this player i want to get rid of" deal. wouldn't you rather keep kp ?


I'm saying that I don't think there is a deal that Phil will accept. This is all theatre.

I personally wouldn't trade KP for anything that has been rumored so far.


it's taking a lot of time and energy for this theater. wouldn't that time be better served trying to actually better the team if that was the case ? would you devote this much time to it ?
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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#790 » by bringbackhoffa » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:34 pm

Pjax wants #3, Brooklyn 2018 first, Brown for KP lmaoo.

#3 pick Josh Jackson will be > KP

Other than the knicks board KP isnt considered of that highly. How do you not make the playoffs in the weak East with KP if he is considered to be a superstar along with Melo who is a star.
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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#791 » by GONYK » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:36 pm

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so it was just to make kp nervous but now he's actually listening ? how it that different than just shopping him ? the nets 2 picks are not even that a great deal. you have no idea what you're getting. a player that has shown something is always better. that's not a "i have to take it" deal in any way. that's i "i did pretty good for this player i want to get rid of" deal. wouldn't you rather keep kp ?


I'm saying that I don't think there is a deal that Phil will accept. This is all theatre.

I personally wouldn't trade KP for anything that has been rumored so far.


it's taking a lot of time and energy for this theater. wouldn't that time be better served trying to actually better the team if that was the case ? would you devote this much time to it ?


Sure. Why not? I'm making phone calls all day. This is just one of many.

Phil has made outrageous demands to two teams now, and hasn't budged. This doesn't sound like laborious negotiating. Sounds more like "take it or leave it"

IF Phil trades KP, I'll be shocked.
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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#792 » by The KnicksFix » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:36 pm

K P 6 wrote:
ThefellowMelo wrote:Kp ain't going nowhere. The rest of the league isn't as crazy as phil to give up their whole team

We dont want their team. We just want their future.


I mean. Boston is building for the future so they aren't gonna trade that. The Celtics know they can't beat these cavs in the east so they are building for when Lebron downfalls
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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#793 » by F N 11 » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:37 pm

Being on Melo's D could be Kp's downfall here
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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#794 » by Jstock12 » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:37 pm

bringbackhoffa wrote:#3 pick Josh Jackson will be > KP


I hate posts like these. Josh Jackson hasn't played a single minute in the NBA. He's a mystery (I guess that's part of the charm) - that means he could also become a bust. Meanwhile, we know that KP is going to be at the very least VERY GOOD, potentially even a superstar.
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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#795 » by Wolfgang630 » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:37 pm

bringbackhoffa wrote:Pjax wants #3, Brooklyn 2018 first, Brown for KP lmaoo.

#3 pick Josh Jackson will be > KP

Other than the knicks board KP isnt considered of that highly. How do you not make the playoffs in the weak East with KP if he is considered to be a superstar along with Melo who is a star.


It doesn't work like that. Grow up. The Knicks have serious problems from the top to the bottom.
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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#796 » by NYKnicksTAPE » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:38 pm

bringbackhoffa wrote:Pjax wants #3, Brooklyn 2018 first, Brown for KP lmaoo.

#3 pick Josh Jackson will be > KP

Other than the knicks board KP isnt considered of that highly. How do you not make the playoffs in the weak East with KP if he is considered to be a superstar along with Melo who is a star.

nobody considers KP a superstar right now, he's like borderline all star level...he can become a superstar in the future tho

it's a team sport, and the team sucked and played no defense...plus there was all the drama and distractions
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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#797 » by MP4LIFE » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:38 pm

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Or, and this is just a suggestion...or Phl could stop pushing this down the path of Larry Brown debacle. Again, just me thinking out loud. That being, I don't understand how a proposal reated by (by virtue of his a$$holedness) and entertained by Phil Jackson goes from Silver stepping in straight to James Dolan without even acknowledging the ****ing guy who caused, maybe suggested and might pull off the trade itself. 11 rings, in some circles (or triangle) has afforded Phil the least blame for something he is the most responsible for. AMAZING!


You can't help yourself when it comes to defending James Dolan. Quite a sight to behold. As Trump would say, Very Sad!


LOL, you are in the minority of fans when it comes to trusting in Phil but you have the audacity to say I can't help, or that I'm defending Dolan and smugly use a stupid Trumpism as your cherry topper? Wack!


See, your Dolan support is so strong that it makes you say ridiculous things. I don't support Phil. I started a Fire Phil thread last April before it was cool to hate Phil and that long thread was eventually locked because it was 'insane'. I've continued my anti-Phil rhetoric since. It's too bad you just choose to see what fits your narrative, which is a classic Dolan move.
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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#798 » by F N 11 » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:38 pm

bringbackhoffa wrote:Pjax wants #3, Brooklyn 2018 first, Brown for KP lmaoo.

#3 pick Josh Jackson will be > KP

Other than the knicks board KP isnt considered of that highly. How do you not make the playoffs in the weak East with KP if he is considered to be a superstar along with Melo who is a star.

You have so much more to worry about on your end. Is Kyle coming back? How are you going to improve? GTFO because I would get banned If I came over on your sis talking Chit. FOH
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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#799 » by bringbackhoffa » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:38 pm

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bringbackhoffa wrote:Pjax wants #3, Brooklyn 2018 first, Brown for KP lmaoo.

#3 pick Josh Jackson will be > KP

Other than the knicks board KP isnt considered of that highly. How do you not make the playoffs in the weak East with KP if he is considered to be a superstar along with Melo who is a star.


It doesn't work like that. Grow up. The Knicks have serious problems from the top to the bottom.


Real superstars should be able to put the problems aside and still win.

A package that pJax wants from Boston would get you Anthony Davis
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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#800 » by GONYK » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:39 pm

bringbackhoffa wrote:
Wolfgang630 wrote:
bringbackhoffa wrote:Pjax wants #3, Brooklyn 2018 first, Brown for KP lmaoo.

#3 pick Josh Jackson will be > KP

Other than the knicks board KP isnt considered of that highly. How do you not make the playoffs in the weak East with KP if he is considered to be a superstar along with Melo who is a star.


It doesn't work like that. Grow up. The Knicks have serious problems from the top to the bottom.


Real superstars should be able to put the problems aside and still win.


This should be your last post here.

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