BaF Season 4- Opening Night 12/1- (Announcement page 57)

[El Poochio]

Well what I proposed should be making the load for bish significantly less imo. He will be having plenty of time to catch up and rest. But if he doesn’t want to go with this then I won’t argue. I just prefer something like this which would be a minor change instead of changing the whole dynamics of free agency with making the bids basically public.

I don't mean to speak for him but is the catching up really what gets to him?

I think its the people asking am I winning the bid what will it take to beat the bid and get those results out in a timely matter so that if you are involved in multiple players you know where you stand on a certain player.

The freezes would allow him to catch up...but could you imagine when a freeze was lifted the amount of PM's and flooding back on his plate. I think you are just potentially covering up the real issue which is we are still relying on one man to do FA.

The only way to potentially really lessen the load for at least the 2022 FA if you want to do anonymous bids still is probably get the guys to come out in tiers...its the only way to make a real impact IMO if you want to keep the same way we have been doing it.

how about a system where bids on day 1 have to be at least over $200 per year? and then your tier it down from there. i think someone posted that earlier. Could still have steals but it reduces bish wasting time to responding to $50 offers for Durant

Does it solve anything though it will still be micro bidding back and forth from 201 to 202 to 203

[Context]

everyone tries to control things but no matter what you set up there will be a way around it- your fear will become a reality...
just let me know when the "consensus"' settles on a rule...I see a lot of these "suggested" rules for GM's that dont put that work in- plain and simple...but carry on...

[Deeeez Knicks]

If we keep the current system in we have to go back to listing FAs in batches for the big FA one man cant keep track of 200 big time FAs in live time

Yea, that seems like the simplest way to reduce the frenzy without changing too much. There are just too many players/bids to keep track of at one time. Just seems like too much to release everyone at one time.

the issue with tier could be what if durant comes out day 1 and giannis comes out day 10, team that signs durant with bird rights gets a head start while team with giannis bird rights has to wait it out since he has to keep cap space for his most important player. unless every teams top 2 or 3 players get released in the initial tiers

Yeah, release the top guys first and get them out of the way. If you have bird rights on that player, then "offically" they can sign the paperwork after your other free agents so there wouldnt be a disadvantage or random timing issues. Or even if every team nominates 1 or 2 players or something like that.

Otherwise, just seems like a ton to track those first few days

[mpharris36]

everyone tries to control things but no matter what you set up there will be a way around it- your fear will become a reality...
just let me know when the "consensus"' settles on a rule...I see a lot of these "suggested" rules for GM's that dont put that work in- plain and simple...but carry on...

no one is trying to control anything. Bish said what happened this year can't happen again. And we know with 2022 on the horizon it will be the craziest of all. No one is saying it has to be this way or not. We are just throwing ideas other there.

I'm of the camp that no question is a dumb or uselss question about how we do FA. I think we are just in the brainstorming stage because Bish said he simply can't withstand the influx of PM's and it will only get worse. And he asked for ideas.

[Deeeez Knicks]

I don't mean to speak for him but is the catching up really what gets to him?

I think its the people asking am I winning the bid what will it take to beat the bid and get those results out in a timely matter so that if you are involved in multiple players you know where you stand on a certain player.

The freezes would allow him to catch up...but could you imagine when a freeze was lifted the amount of PM's and flooding back on his plate. I think you are just potentially covering up the real issue which is we are still relying on one man to do FA.

The only way to potentially really lessen the load for at least the 2022 FA if you want to do anonymous bids still is probably get the guys to come out in tiers...its the only way to make a real impact IMO if you want to keep the same way we have been doing it.

how about a system where bids on day 1 have to be at least over $200 per year? and then your tier it down from there. i think someone posted that earlier. Could still have steals but it reduces bish wasting time to responding to $50 offers for Durant

Does it solve anything though it will still be micro bidding back and forth from 201 to 202 to 203

5% min raises?

[El Poochio]

Lets see if my max bid proposal works for Bish he will still need to do a lot of back and forth checking and updating but at least it will be in his own time rather than real time

[mpharris36]

Yea, that seems like the simplest way to reduce the frenzy without changing too much. There are just too many players/bids to keep track of at one time. Just seems like too much to release everyone at one time.

the issue with tier could be what if durant comes out day 1 and giannis comes out day 10, team that signs durant with bird rights gets a head start while team with giannis bird rights has to wait it out since he has to keep cap space for his most important player. unless every teams top 2 or 3 players get released in the initial tiers

Yeah, release the top guys first and get them out of the way. If you have bird rights on that player, then "offically" they can sign the paperwork after your other free agents so there wouldnt be a disadvantage or random timing issues. Or even if every team nominates 1 or 2 players or something like that.

Otherwise, just seems like a ton to track those first few days

it ultimately is the only way if you want to keep anonymous bidding. Bish needs less FA's if you want to keep anonymous FA not more time.

[bringbackhoffa]

what if we spend a week or 2 to get the top 25-50 players out of the way and then go to a free for all like we currently do for the rest of the players?

i think bish going through and finding out if a team has enough space to sign Aaron baynes for $1 while teams are battling it out for lebron, durant, and giannis is kind of weird to do in the inital days of free agency. but some would say thats where the steals are

[El Poochio]

how about a system where bids on day 1 have to be at least over $200 per year? and then your tier it down from there. i think someone posted that earlier. Could still have steals but it reduces bish wasting time to responding to $50 offers for Durant

Does it solve anything though it will still be micro bidding back and forth from 201 to 202 to 203

5% min raises?

%25 imo

[bringbackhoffa]

Does it solve anything though it will still be micro bidding back and forth from 201 to 202 to 203

5% min raises?

%25 imo

that for example for booker this year would be a $100 increase in bids

[SOUL]

IMO a lot of the overflow issue/problems now could've been prevented with the initial draft which is obviously in hindsight, but say the initial draft had superstars on their IRL contracts, ex: Kevin Durant 1 year left, LeBron 3, AD 4, etc. There was enough variable in those sort of contracts that it naturally creates a few intriguing names each summer and doesn't create entire league reset scenarios where in 4-5 years EVERYBODY is available (2022). Obviously we can do some things to help prevent a certain amount of work for bish but there isn't a perfect scenario. Just needs to be the most "fair" one.

[bringbackhoffa]

IMO a lot of the overflow issue/problems now could've been prevented with the initial draft which is obviously in hindsight, but say the initial draft had superstars on their IRL contracts, ex: Kevin Durant 1 year left, LeBron 3, AD 4, etc. There was enough variable in those sort of contracts that it naturally creates a few intriguing names each summer and doesn't create entire league reset scenarios where in 4-5 years EVERYBODY is available (2022). Obviously we can do some things to help prevent a certain amount of work for bish but there isn't a perfect scenario. Just needs to be the most "fair" one.

but then Willy wouldnt have gotten $100/5

[El Poochio]

IMO a lot of the overflow issue/problems now could've been prevented with the initial draft which is obviously in hindsight, but say the initial draft had superstars on their IRL contracts, ex: Kevin Durant 1 year left, LeBron 3, AD 4, etc. There was enough variable in those sort of contracts that it naturally creates a few intriguing names each summer and doesn't create entire league reset scenarios where in 4-5 years EVERYBODY is available (2022). Obviously we can do some things to help prevent a certain amount of work for bish but there isn't a perfect scenario. Just needs to be the most "fair" one.

Lets be honest, why is there even free agency? We all make trades if we want to switch it up anyway but respect to Bish and everyone trying to make this as realistic as possible

[mpharris36]

IMO a lot of the overflow issue/problems now could've been prevented with the initial draft which is obviously in hindsight, but say the initial draft had superstars on their IRL contracts, ex: Kevin Durant 1 year left, LeBron 3, AD 4, etc. There was enough variable in those sort of contracts that it naturally creates a few intriguing names each summer and doesn't create entire league reset scenarios where in 4-5 years EVERYBODY is available (2022). Obviously we can do some things to help prevent a certain amount of work for bish but there isn't a perfect scenario. Just needs to be the most "fair" one.

Lets be honest, why is there even free agency? We all make trades if we want to switch it up anyway but respect to Bish and everyone trying to make this as realistic as possible

pooch wants infinity contracts LOL

[bringbackhoffa]

IMO a lot of the overflow issue/problems now could've been prevented with the initial draft which is obviously in hindsight, but say the initial draft had superstars on their IRL contracts, ex: Kevin Durant 1 year left, LeBron 3, AD 4, etc. There was enough variable in those sort of contracts that it naturally creates a few intriguing names each summer and doesn't create entire league reset scenarios where in 4-5 years EVERYBODY is available (2022). Obviously we can do some things to help prevent a certain amount of work for bish but there isn't a perfect scenario. Just needs to be the most "fair" one.

Lets be honest, why is there even free agency? We all make trades if we want to switch it up anyway but respect to Bish and everyone trying to make this as realistic as possible

pooch wants infinity contracts LOL

i dunno about that.. his boy trae is still just looking for a minimum extension...

[El Poochio]

IMO a lot of the overflow issue/problems now could've been prevented with the initial draft which is obviously in hindsight, but say the initial draft had superstars on their IRL contracts, ex: Kevin Durant 1 year left, LeBron 3, AD 4, etc. There was enough variable in those sort of contracts that it naturally creates a few intriguing names each summer and doesn't create entire league reset scenarios where in 4-5 years EVERYBODY is available (2022). Obviously we can do some things to help prevent a certain amount of work for bish but there isn't a perfect scenario. Just needs to be the most "fair" one.

Lets be honest, why is there even free agency? We all make trades if we want to switch it up anyway but respect to Bish and everyone trying to make this as realistic as possible

pooch wants infinity contracts LOL

Just seems unnecessary when players arent real and sim and have no real life money grabbing purposes I know we are trying to recreate the NBA environment here but still

[bringbackhoffa]

Lets be honest, why is there even free agency? We all make trades if we want to switch it up anyway but respect to Bish and everyone trying to make this as realistic as possible

pooch wants infinity contracts LOL

Just seems unnecessary when players arent real and sim and have no real life money grabbing purposes I know we are trying to recreate the NBA environment here but still

i think free agency is the 2nd best part of this game

[mpharris36]

Lets be honest, why is there even free agency? We all make trades if we want to switch it up anyway but respect to Bish and everyone trying to make this as realistic as possible

pooch wants infinity contracts LOL

Just seems unnecessary when players arent real and sim and have no real life money grabbing purposes I know we are trying to recreate the NBA environment here but still

thats exactly it otherwise it would just be fantasy basketball. Contracts are keeping this fun because you have to manage the cap. If we just got to collect assets without managing a cap the game would basically just doing fantasy basketball.

[El Poochio]

pooch wants infinity contracts LOL

Just seems unnecessary when players arent real and sim and have no real life money grabbing purposes I know we are trying to recreate the NBA environment here but still

i think free agency is the 2nd best part of this game

And the best part is?

[bringbackhoffa]

Just seems unnecessary when players arent real and sim and have no real life money grabbing purposes I know we are trying to recreate the NBA environment here but still

i think free agency is the 2nd best part of this game

And the best part is?

seeing how your team performs in the SIM