Julius Randle IS a 'cornerstone' player

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Randle wanted to be a Knick and still wants to

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[Fat Kat]

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[NowWHYcee7]

Pay this man.

[Jeff Van Gully]

i went from "iono about that deal" to "OMG we finally have locked in a true star!"

i hate to say it, but merry pills called this one. they didn't have the environment to materialize his development, but they had the right guy in mind for once.

[Jeff Van Gully]

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and we shall be blessed.

keep all these warriors. give them a couple more in FA. we ready. i declare war.

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that stepback fade getting dirky

[iLLmatic860]

I think we should trade Obi. Clearly nobody expected Ju to be this good

[KnixtapeH20]

Randle wanted to be a Knick and still wants to

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.... And it was then that I decided he was gona be my babys daddy. Wait what? I mean no homo

[Chanel Bomber]

Not surprising Randle's been watching a lot of Kawhi tape.

He often shoots from the same range as Kawhi (minus Kawhi's patented foul line jumper), and his overall game is starting to resemble Kawhi's to the point where one has to wonder what Randle needs to work on in order to reach that level.

I think Kawhi has a tighter handle, gets to the rim with more ease and is still a more efficient midrange J. The next step for Randle is to reach 59-60% TS.

I need to know how the Knicks end the regular season before I share my final thoughts on Randle and Thibs. A top 6 seed changes everything for me.

[NoStatsGuy]

i dont mind paying this man, he deserved it

[NewKnicks]

You should be apologizing right about now. If listen more and talk less, you might learn something.

I honestly don't care what you think, and don't need your advice on how I should post on a message board.

Go away, flea. Your hot takes on players are horrible, btw. You're just another Knicks homer that other teams fans make fun of.

I guess you're already putting Julius in the Hall of Fame, correct? Because that's where Jimmy Butler will be after his career is finished. I need to see 3+ years of his play at least. I don't base my judgements of players on more than a half of year of play.

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[NewKnicks]

Look at the results. Randle is averaging 23.1 points, 11 rebounds, and 5.6 assists... He is shooting 40 percent from three....

He is in rarified air. Here is the list of players to average at least 23 points, 11 rebounds and five assists in a season while also shooting at least 40 percent on 3s: Julius Randle.

Here is the list if you downsize that to 20, 10, and 5 and that 40 percent 3-point shooting: Julius Randle and Larry Bird."

The samples size is big enough now to see this is likely not an aberration at this point. Randle is cementing himself as a bonafide star in this league and YES cornerstone to a potential strong playoff team in the East (if you add another star to the mix).

https://theathletic.com/2391001/2021/02/16/julius-randles-44-point-game-means-more-for-knicks-than-making-him-an-all-star/?source=dailyemail

Wow that’s an eye opener! Randle has legit moved from all-star player to Superstar player with players like Kyrie, Harden, Durant, Lebron, Davis, Giannis, etc.

We should offer him the max when his contract is up.

Slow down dude. All those guys have done it for so many years. Randle needs to play like this for a lot more years, and also get the Knicks in contention if you want to start including him in that group. He's not a superstar.

[NewKnicks]

Not sure if this has been mentioned, but Ramona Shelbourne just mentioned on The Jump that Randle is eligible for a 4 year, 100 million dollar extension.

Do we offer it?

Does he take that?

I would definitely offer it but with caution. I don’t want to insult Randle when he actually is eligible for a higher pay rate Supermax contract.
In my opinion, he deserves the Supermax.

And he's going to get it, too. We will be locked into 'Randle is a superstar' and our #1 once he signs that deal. For better or worse, that's going to happen relatively soon.

I do not want to pay him the supermax just yet, but in his eyes (and his agents) I'm sure he thinks he's worth it. I've always been interested in seeing what we could get for him before signing him to that deal, but I can't see the Knicks trading their first All Star in forever. We're locked into a Knicks/Randle team up for years to come. We all need to pray he doesn't drop back down to where he was last year.

[NewKnicks]

My only issue with offering Randle the max would be that it is based off 1 season of great production. In the same token, and in comparison to other max level players, he absolutely deserves it though after the work he's put in this year. PLUS, with the Knicks struggling to sign other marquee free agents in the past, I think they have no choice but to offer him the max and hope he does take it. I just hope if he does take it that he does not regress into more of the Julius we saw last year.

Exactly. 5 Star Post.

[KnicksGadfly]

Not sure if this has been mentioned, but Ramona Shelbourne just mentioned on The Jump that Randle is eligible for a 4 year, 100 million dollar extension.

Do we offer it?

Does he take that?

I would definitely offer it but with caution. I don’t want to insult Randle when he actually is eligible for a higher pay rate Supermax contract.
In my opinion, he deserves the Supermax.

And he's going to get it, too. We will be locked into 'Randle is a superstar' and our #1 once he signs that deal. For better or worse, that's going to happen relatively soon.

I do not want to pay him the supermax just yet, but in his eyes (and his agents) I'm sure he thinks he's worth it. I've always been interested in seeing what we could get for him before signing him to that deal, but I can't see the Knicks trading their first All Star in forever. We're locked into a Knicks/Randle team up for years to come. We all need to pray he doesn't drop back down to where he was last year.

It’s on the FO to get the pieces before we get to that point. We have the assets, we have RJ on a nice contract, Mitch for another year, Randle is a legit grinder. If we get locked into an Atlanta Hawks situation, it’s because Leon Rose failed.

[NewKnicks]

Players like him will attract players like Luka, Zion and Lavine in the years to come. The guy is 26! 26! He's got at least 8 years of high level given the current medicine, food science and his work ethic. This is not a 3-4 contending years or bust. This is a long-term deal. We couldn't sign free agents because we got nobody. Now we have a legitimate all star, probably the 4th best player in the East all around(defense + offense).

The issue is teams with PF's as their #1 'stars' are few and far between. There just aren't any in this day and age. For Randle to be as successful as he's been he needs to have the ball in his hands. It's been working so far, but I do have questions if we'll be able to past the second round with a PF as our #1.

He hasn't won anything yet in his career, so it would be good for us to get into a 7 game series to see how his play is in the playoffs. Teams will focus a lot more on shutting him down. The playoffs are a whole different animal, where teams gameplan a lot more on specific players game after game. This is where the best players in the game shine. Doesn't matter if teams try to shut them down, they still perform at a high level.

I need to see how Randle adjusts when playoff teams have time to game plan specifically against him.

[NewKnicks]

Pretty much everyone in this thread is saying 'pay the man' after less than a year of great play. I'm not disputing he's played great, but I need to see it in the playoffs, and all of next year before I had him the big bag. You need to be SO careful as a franchise when giving out these supermax bags. If you make the wrong move, you could be setting yourself up for failure for years to come, and no team is going to take an underperforming super max player off your hands. Destiny is already set after he signs that contract, good or bad.

I'm not trashing Randle, far from it. I'm as surprised and happy as anyone is with his play this year. But is he in the conversation with the top 10 players in the league? This year, yes. But it's only one year.

What happens if we get in the playoffs, teams game plan against Randle and he doesn't play well. We lose 4-1 (as an example). Is everyone still saying hand him that bag? The good thing is we're going to find out a lot more about him very soon in the playoffs. Exciting times to say the least.

[3toheadmelo]

Awesome stuff in here. Matt Barnes is saying that Randle is an All NBA player. Ramona shelbourne is saying Thibs is evolving as a coach which is something we don’t really talk about. She also says Randle has played so good he might even be our #1 option now long term.

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