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MeloDrama Part V

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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#81 » by nyjetsknicks420 » Sun Jul 6, 2014 1:04 am

ophdog wrote:Gotta wonder if Carmelo is pressuring Phil to improve team. If Phil talks a big talk he may want to see something. Lebrun is apparently pressuring pat. Maybe melo doing the same


But he should know we cant really improve the team this year
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Post#82 » by HighRyzer83 » Sun Jul 6, 2014 1:04 am

Phill's obligation is first to the team, not any one player. Giving Melo the Kobe max is not only unwise, it would be a violation of his primary duties. I am sure Phil offered a contract that was fair and commensurable with the value Melo brings to the team. If Melo can't eat that, then he can go leech off another franchise. The bulls were smart enough not to let that leech clamp down fully. Kubchak seems like another Isiah tho.
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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#83 » by Starksfor3 » Sun Jul 6, 2014 1:05 am

Great, we're gonna get the trolls from the other boards again. Just for that, **** you Carmelo.
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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#84 » by Marty McFly » Sun Jul 6, 2014 1:05 am

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pylb wrote:Our board's "inside sources" ( :lol: ) are saying the Jazz could get involved.



care to divulge more about that or are you just humoring me? :evil:

I don't know anything about it, and we have so many so called "sources" on our board that I wouldn't put any faith into it. Even "legit" nba peeps are coming out with conflicting reports. But apparently one guy, BullsLas, said that we might offload Boozer to Utah.


ah i see. that would mean an asset of some sort is going that way too. i see no reason for them to take on boozer. i know i want alec burks by any means.
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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#85 » by ophdog » Sun Jul 6, 2014 1:05 am

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ophdog wrote:Gotta wonder if Carmelo is pressuring Phil to improve team. If Phil talks a big talk he may want to see something. Lebrun is apparently pressuring pat. Maybe melo doing the same



there's no ay he'd be that unware about this situation. the hotflashes gave riley a record, 5 million in capspace to do just that. phil's got his hands tied and won't be able to do much about it till next season.


And that's the reason we may be out of it. He maybe saying if you can't even get your guy pau here how you getting anyone else
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Post#86 » by cubanKnick » Sun Jul 6, 2014 1:05 am

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KNIXFAN_83 wrote:Here's what you guys are missing. This is negotiation on the highest level outside of anything in regards to government and foreign diplomacy. Right now Leon Rose and Carmelo lost leverage in negotiations due to the bulls low balling melo. They were the only clear threat. Now with that said the lakers offered a max contract. So now Leon is using that Max offer to now gain an increase in the contract the Knicks offered. Knicks are most likely wryoffering between 100-110 mill and melo and Leon want 110-120 mill. That's all this is guys. Use the lakers to drive up the price. Negotiation 101. Your welcome.


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Then I hope tells them to shove it, we dont need this career NBA loser at a kobemax


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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#87 » by god shammgod » Sun Jul 6, 2014 1:05 am

HighRyzer83 wrote:Phill's obligation is first to the team, not any one player. Giving Melo the Kobe max is not only unwise, it would be a violation of his primary duties. I am sure Phil offered a contract that was fair and commensurable with the value Melo brings to the team. If Melo can't eat that, then he can go leech off another franchise. The bulls were smart enough not to let that leech clamp down fully. Kubchak seems like another Isiah tho.


he did direct clockwork orange though and that was fantastic
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Post#88 » by melo mvp 15 » Sun Jul 6, 2014 1:06 am

cubanKnick wrote:It's sad was losing has done to us Knick fan's that we are panicking over a guy who has lost as much as our team, this isn't Lebron we are or might lose people, it's Melo the guy who has passed the second round of the playoffs twice, twice!

The guy who was in the playoffs every year while NY was in the lottery and then brought NY to the playoffs in three out of his four seasons here. K.
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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#89 » by NYs Finest » Sun Jul 6, 2014 1:06 am

cubanKnick wrote:It's sad was losing has done to us Knick fan's that we are panicking over a guy who has lost as much as our team, this isn't Lebron we are or might lose people, it's Melo the guy who has passed the second round of the playoffs twice, twice!

Can you stop posting the same ****ing thing over and over??? JEsus christ man
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Post#90 » by Marty McFly » Sun Jul 6, 2014 1:07 am

vallen wrote:so if Melo walks for nothing, do we still need to move Amare, or will Bargs be enought to sign LBJ ?



if melo walks we'd have to forget about lebron completely.
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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#91 » by fresko024 » Sun Jul 6, 2014 1:08 am

At this point I would refuse any S&T with Chicago. Let him go try and win in LA. Not going to happen
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Post#92 » by PornDoc » Sun Jul 6, 2014 1:08 am

I hate this sh*t.
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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#93 » by Marty McFly » Sun Jul 6, 2014 1:08 am

ophdog wrote:
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ophdog wrote:Gotta wonder if Carmelo is pressuring Phil to improve team. If Phil talks a big talk he may want to see something. Lebrun is apparently pressuring pat. Maybe melo doing the same



there's no ay he'd be that unware about this situation. the hotflashes gave riley a record, 5 million in capspace to do just that. phil's got his hands tied and won't be able to do much about it till next season.


And that's the reason we may be out of it. He maybe saying if you can't even get your guy pau here how you getting anyone else



we'll see. i don't think him walking is the worst thing in the world.
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Post#94 » by Starksfor3 » Sun Jul 6, 2014 1:09 am

Hmm...someone said this before but it is a bit fishy that Leon Rose did use the Bulls and Lakers (Phil's former employers). I think this is a ploy to try and get the zen master to lose his zen and make things personal.
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Post#95 » by kingquan316 » Sun Jul 6, 2014 1:09 am

cubanKnick wrote:It's sad was losing has done to us Knick fan's that we are panicking over a guy who has lost as much as our team, this isn't Lebron we are or might lose people, it's Melo the guy who has passed the second round of the playoffs twice, twice!


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Post#96 » by vallen » Sun Jul 6, 2014 1:09 am

Marty McFly wrote:
vallen wrote:so if Melo walks for nothing, do we still need to move Amare, or will Bargs be enought to sign LBJ ?



if melo walks we'd have to forget about lebron completely.


non-sense. LBJ can buy into a vision of playing in an actual system, and the 2015 plan, that would still be in full effect. with full input privileges... :wink:
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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#97 » by K_ick_God » Sun Jul 6, 2014 1:10 am

I have no idea if my theory is accurate -- sometimes the lines between advocating the likelihood of something or simply presenting a possibility blur together, and Melo could genuinely be torn about his options.

But the line from Wojina about how Melo is still bothered by Phil wanting him to take less ... especially from Wojina ... is ... curious.

Lakers can offer the most besides us, so there's that, but how perfect is it to have the Lakers to use in a negotiation with Phil :lol:

I'm pretty sure we're offering a 5th year.
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Post#98 » by WinCity » Sun Jul 6, 2014 1:12 am

fresko024 wrote:At this point I would refuse any S&T with Chicago. Let him go try and win in LA. Not going to happen



Mirotic and a couple of picks?
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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#99 » by Starksfor3 » Sun Jul 6, 2014 1:12 am

KnicksGod wrote:I have no idea if my theory is accurate -- sometimes the lines between advocacy or presenting a possibility blur, and Melo could genuinely be torn about his options. But the line from Wojina about how Melo is still bothered by Phil wanting him to take less ... especially from Wojina ... is ... curious.

Lakers can offer the most besides us, so there's that, but how perfect is it to have the Lakers to use in a negotiation with Phil :lol:

I'm pretty sure we're offering a 5th year.


It does seem like a last second ploy by Leon Rose. However, I am concerned about that damn Chicago lawyer nonsense.
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Post#100 » by CoolKids » Sun Jul 6, 2014 1:12 am

vallen wrote:
Marty McFly wrote:
vallen wrote:so if Melo walks for nothing, do we still need to move Amare, or will Bargs be enought to sign LBJ ?



if melo walks we'd have to forget about lebron completely.


non-sense. LBJ can buy into a vision of playing in an actual system, and the 2015 plan, that would still be in full effect. with full input privileges... :wink:

Lebron is not coming to the knicks without another star or two in place for any reason at any point in his career

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