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Re: OT Fitz vs Geno 

Post#81 » by Dr. Detfink » Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:14 am

Dogs liked Michael Vick more than Geno Smith....Go with Fitz, it's a no-brainer.
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Re: OT Fitz vs Geno 

Post#82 » by Huey Freeman » Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:25 am

Fantastic signing. Good move.

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Re: OT Fitz vs Geno 

Post#83 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:27 am

I won't even enter this fray. Geno vs Fitz or Geno vs Anyone are the classic sh*tshow topics of any Jet forum the least few years.

Whatever happens, happens. Jets won't be awesome with Fitz and they won't be awesome with Geno. The arguments are all around the degree of un-awesomeness that will follow.
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Re: OT Fitz vs Geno 

Post#84 » by JBreezeNY » Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:33 am

N8isScofield wrote:
JBreezeNY wrote:Fitz is back, I ain't mad.

He performs well we go through it again next season.

He performs like sh*t then deuces.

I'll never understand the maybe Geno should get a second chance talk after watching his father Sanchez screw us over year after year. Geno sucks, he does nothing well, we honestly are only keeping Fitz & Geno until we get a good QB.

You have to be fair enough to acknowledge that both Sanchez and Geno were thrown in at the deep end before they were ready which is the organization's fault. In the case of Sanchez, after his second season the talent on the offensive side of the ball got worse and worse. That doesn't absolve him of his ball security issues but he was not put in a position to succeed by an inept front office and coaching staff. In Geno's case he has never had any weapons and was also thrown into the deep end too soon. Again he has some faults that can't be absolved but you can't just ignore the fact that the front office and coaching staff did him absolutely no favors with the talent level around him and playing him without letting him learn the ropes first. Those 2 guys may not be great but both had enough talent that other organizations would have gotten more out of them.

Fam they both have sh*t IQ's we can play this game of attacking the Jets for throwing them out too early but at the end of the day intangibles are something you have or you don't.

They both don't have them even with the lack of help we surrounded them with.

IQ is the biggest need from your QB, both Geno & Sanchez showed a lack of that, Geno more so from WVU & one of the biggest reasons I never wanted Geno here in the first place.

The day we get rid of Geno the better off we'll be.
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Re: OT Fitz vs Geno 

Post#85 » by Greenie » Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:36 am

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will34 wrote:I can't wait for Jets fans who are complaining about Fitz to eat crow after they watch the putz Geno Smith jump throw another INT. Guy was a good college QB. He doesn't have the vision for the NFL. Pay Fitz.


Pay Fitz for one year. Anything more than that is shortsighted and luckily our GM is anything but that.

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Re: OT Fitz vs Geno 

Post#86 » by j4remi » Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:39 am

Even if you prefer Geno, could you imagine the locker room if the Jets refused to bring back Fitz and Geno flopped? It'd be a powder keg situation. Now Fitz is around for one year (harmless long term) and if he fizzles, Geno can get his shake at it. I don't have much faith in either guy to win us games, but if the defense can be as good as it looks on paper I'm hoping one of them can manage games well enough that we win.
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Re: OT Fitz vs Geno 

Post#87 » by JBreezeNY » Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:44 am

j4remi wrote:Even if you prefer Geno, could you imagine the locker room if the Jets refused to bring back Fitz and Geno flopped? It'd be a powder keg situation. Now Fitz is around for one year (harmless long term) and if he fizzles, Geno can get his shake at it. I don't have much faith in either guy to win us games, but if the defense can be as good as it looks on paper I'm hoping one of them can manage games well enough that we win.

Almost forgot the locker room really fu*ks with Fitz.

Should be an interesting season.
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Re: OT Fitz vs Geno 

Post#88 » by Greenie » Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:56 am

LoyalFan wrote:**** Geno. He is a bum

Dude played on bad teams...
His first year who were his receivers?
His second year Decker was hurt...who were his receivers? Remember the nonsense between Rex and our GM?
His third year(last year) he actually won the job over Fitz but got his jaw rocked. Fitz took and kept the job because we were kinda on a roll. Todd didn't want to fuq with that. Fitz had some issues too.


I'm not the biggest Geno fan but Imma roll with him and give him a shot this year with a competent coach(I like Todd) and actual talent around him.
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Re: OT Fitz vs Geno 

Post#89 » by DaKnicksAreBack » Thu Jul 28, 2016 1:05 am

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Rich Rane wrote:It's over. $12 million/1 year

I like Fitz and it's a year. Can't hate the signing, but Jets now have 4 QBs on the roster.

I hate it. Fitz is going to get overmatched against our brutal schedule. Fully guaranteed 12 million is ridiculous. He's been banged up his entire career. I don't like this at all.


I've never been a believer in Geno and neither Petty or Hack are ready. I believe he's our best chance of the 4 and the receivers thinks very highly of him. And if we can't win with Fitz (which is likely considering the schedule), he's off the books next offseason.


Best chance for what? Surely you dont think youre going to win a SB with fitzy...so then why not take a shot at developing a young QB?
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Re: OT Fitz vs Geno 

Post#90 » by Rich Rane » Thu Jul 28, 2016 1:18 am

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Mecca wrote:I hate it. Fitz is going to get overmatched against our brutal schedule. Fully guaranteed 12 million is ridiculous. He's been banged up his entire career. I don't like this at all.


I've never been a believer in Geno and neither Petty or Hack are ready. I believe he's our best chance of the 4 and the receivers thinks very highly of him. And if we can't win with Fitz (which is likely considering the schedule), he's off the books next offseason.


Best chance for what? Surely you dont think youre going to win a SB with fitzy...so then why not take a shot at developing a young QB?


As a fan of a team that's in win now mode, you have to try to think playoffs even with a brutal schedule. That's all that matters and if that somehow happens, you're in a crap shoot of single game eliminations.

On specifically the Jets QB situation, you really only like or hate this deal if you like or hate Geno because Petty and Hack simply aren't ready, which very much seems to be the case for the front office since they now have 4 QBs.
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Re: OT Fitz vs Geno 

Post#91 » by Knicksfan1992 » Thu Jul 28, 2016 1:29 am

This debate were having highlights one thing and one thing only... How fuqqin good Brandon Marshall is. This is the type of QB situation he's had his whole career and the dude puts up stud numbers year in and year out. He's the best thing that's happened to the Jets franchise in a long time
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Re: OT Fitz vs Geno 

Post#92 » by BKAY » Thu Jul 28, 2016 1:35 am

Fitz was more of a product of Decker/Marshall/Ivory/Powell than vice versa. I'm good with just moving past Fitz. See what we got with Geno. Plenty of placeholder QBs in the league in the same vein as Fitz.
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Re: OT Fitz vs Geno 

Post#93 » by nykballa2k4 » Thu Jul 28, 2016 1:38 am

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nykballa2k4 wrote:
N8isScofield wrote:We aren't winning a Super Bowl this season. Everyone has to know that. To me it's stupid to persist with this Fitz drama. Let Geno play and see if he actually has any ability. He's got weapons. The line isn't the best but the skill players are excellent. If he fails you know he truly sucks. If he lights it up you've got a young QB to build around and another talented prospect in Hack. That's a decent spot to be in. Another year of Fitz does nothing to help this franchise going forward. You don't learn anything about Geno and you waste valuable cap space if you sign him to a multi year deal. Move on. He's not effing Elway, he's a bum who put up decent numbers with 2 great receivers bailing him out and then choked when it mattered the most. F*ck him. He's delusional.


There is no reason Jets should not be competing to win their division. As a Steelers fan, I can tell you that if it were not for Berfict, we'd have had a great chance to be in the superbowl (dude broke ALL of our best players). Patriots have a rough schedule, are without Brady for long enough where Gronk might have to carry more of a load. Gronk WILL get hurt forcing other guys to have to step up again. Patriots defense isn't all that great and offense has significant holes. With Fitz and the Jets defense they have a reason to be thinking playoffs.

On the other hand, if I am Fitz, I am sitting out knowing that I am not risking my body on concussions and I can have career #2 as a coach whenever I want. He can wait for the inevitable Romo injury and try for a bowl there. Possibly get into Denver once Sanchez buttfumbles again. Plenty of good opportunities. Heck if Brady goes down, maybe you will see Fitz and the Pats!! Perfect way of saying "shoulda paid me".


It's definitely an option but he has to decide if it's worth risking $15 million guaranteed.


Take out the work "risk." For him, since he is intelligent perhaps he feels putting himself in the fray for x mil for 2 years is a bad career move. It's about the options from his view point. (IMO)
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Re: OT Fitz vs Geno 

Post#94 » by Greenie » Thu Jul 28, 2016 1:41 am

1 year. Whatever.
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Re: OT Fitz vs Geno 

Post#95 » by BKAY » Thu Jul 28, 2016 2:06 am

awesome. very down with the 1 yr deal. as I said earlier, he's a placeholder QB. He wanted long term money. Very nice to see the Jets didnt budge on that.
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Re: OT Fitz vs Geno 

Post#96 » by Greenie » Thu Jul 28, 2016 3:59 am

BKAY wrote:awesome. very down with the 1 yr deal. as I said earlier, he's a placeholder QB. He wanted long term money. Very nice to see the Jets didnt budge on that.

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Re: OT Fitz vs Geno 

Post#97 » by goldenbrandon » Thu Jul 28, 2016 4:25 am

Yankeeknickfan wrote:
goldenbrandon wrote:He's going to be the highest paid backup in the NFL. He couldn't beat Geno for the job last year. If Geno doesn't pick a fight with a linebacker he's the starter.

There's no competition. If Fitz is really as bad as you guys make him out to be, Geno will start by week 5.



Omg is everyone insane!!! Geno didn't play with Brandon Marshall and a healthy Erik Decker. Fitz did! Geno won the job and lost it by an injury. When BOTH QBs were healthy with the same weapons Geno won the job. Fitzpatrick not Fitzgerald is a career journeyman who always only play well in a contract year. If he was THAT guy he would still be in Buffalo or Houston. Geno played two seasons. As a rookie he had no weapons at all. And he was a ROOKIE. His second year was better. Way less turnovers with an injured Decker. Rex caused him the second game of the season against Aaron Rodgers his second season after Geno threw a strike for a TD and a time out was called prior to the play. Never seen a young QB be so scrutinized. Fitz been around and he's a product of a well balanced team. Not him, the team is good. Top 5 defense and top 10 offense. I could play QB with the weapons we have
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Re: OT Fitz vs Geno 

Post#98 » by miamiKnick305 » Thu Jul 28, 2016 1:07 pm

I thought this would of been a great year to let Geno start and see if he could put it all together, signing Fitz even for a year to me seems like a mistake, he is what he is and last year (which wasn't even that good) was a fluke and still didn't get us to the playoffs and the schedule was a powderpuff compared to this year's.
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Re: OT Fitz vs Geno 

Post#99 » by Rich Rane » Thu Jul 28, 2016 5:39 pm

miamiKnick305 wrote:I thought this would of been a great year to let Geno start and see if he could put it all together, signing Fitz even for a year to me seems like a mistake, he is what he is and last year (which wasn't even that good) was a fluke and still didn't get us to the playoffs and the schedule was a powderpuff compared to this year's.


Last year wasn't all on Fitzpatrick. As amazing our defense looked on paper. our overpaid secondary folded on many of those losses, particularly that last game (where Fitz is by no means excused for squandering his chances with the offense). Bills torched our secondary and slow linebackers 3rd down after 3rd down.

I also go back to that loss to the Eagles where that same defense gave up 17 points in the first half and also the decision to punt to Sproles. Marshall also had one of the dumbest laterals ever when we were already down 17-0 in our zone which then led to an Eagles TD when the defense folded again. Once again, Fitz deserves blame for some of those losses last offseason. I just want everyone to remember he doesn't deserve all the blame.
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Re: OT Fitz vs Geno 

Post#100 » by JXL » Thu Jul 28, 2016 5:59 pm

Wait, they signed Grizzly Adams!?

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