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Karl is right about Carmelo's approach to the game. And I don't doubt for one minute that he was a self centered diva. He has improved on that as he's gotten older but you can still see it in his game at times. There's habits there that will never go away.
I also agree with Karl about kids not having a dad in their lives. I think it's a social epidemic. You can see it in the personalities of young men an women today. I think it's a major part of why we have seen a decline as each generation comes and goes. I could go on forever about it but that's not really the point in this post.
I think it's pretty low of Karl to single those two out on their personal situations growing up. Comes off as someone looking to unload the clip. Overkill. Excessive. Personal. It's a national problem. And while I know Carmelo has personality flaws, not having a pops is one of the last things that comes to mind. In fact, personality flaws and all, I would say Carmelo is a excellent example to all fatherless inner city kids, that you can make it. And use your success to branch out and secure your families future. Carmelo is a wealthy married man and a father. He ended that cycle and is setting a new example for his children. He deserves credit. A lot of it.
And to rip Carmelo and other players for not having a father, but then criticize smith for having a father, and almost saying Karl himself should have stepped up to do a better job of raising smith than smiths own father is straight up hypocrisy. Now Karl looks like a man weaving back and forth. Looks like he has no moral beliefs. He just wants to rip these guys.
Why? I feel like the only reason to do such a thing is he simply doesn't like them. Couple kids are trash for not having a father another is trash because of his father. By why be that vindictive?
Maybe it's because of a point Karl himself has touched on many times. Wanting the spotlight. I have no choice but to believe Karl resented their popularity because he wanted it himself. Continuing to harp on this is proof and further hypocrisy. You talking about them wanting the spotlight. Yet you can't seem to stop putting the spotlight on yourself to talk about them. To talk about him keeps you alive in people's minds. You were a good coach. But no Phil Jackson. No pat Riley. No pops. Seems like your claim to fame is who you coached and you going to hold onto it as long as possible.
You are guilty of the same thing that boils your blood about Carmelo. You want to be famous but you're a flawed person who doesn't deserve it because you go about it the wrong way. Only he's better than you. And that really gripes your ass.
Hopefully your book is financially successful so you can hire some pr people to help you hide it better.
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I also agree with Karl about kids not having a dad in their lives. I think it's a social epidemic. You can see it in the personalities of young men an women today. I think it's a major part of why we have seen a decline as each generation comes and goes. I could go on forever about it but that's not really the point in this post.
I think it's pretty low of Karl to single those two out on their personal situations growing up. Comes off as someone looking to unload the clip. Overkill. Excessive. Personal. It's a national problem. And while I know Carmelo has personality flaws, not having a pops is one of the last things that comes to mind. In fact, personality flaws and all, I would say Carmelo is a excellent example to all fatherless inner city kids, that you can make it. And use your success to branch out and secure your families future. Carmelo is a wealthy married man and a father. He ended that cycle and is setting a new example for his children. He deserves credit. A lot of it.
And to rip Carmelo and other players for not having a father, but then criticize smith for having a father, and almost saying Karl himself should have stepped up to do a better job of raising smith than smiths own father is straight up hypocrisy. Now Karl looks like a man weaving back and forth. Looks like he has no moral beliefs. He just wants to rip these guys.
Why? I feel like the only reason to do such a thing is he simply doesn't like them. Couple kids are trash for not having a father another is trash because of his father. By why be that vindictive?
Maybe it's because of a point Karl himself has touched on many times. Wanting the spotlight. I have no choice but to believe Karl resented their popularity because he wanted it himself. Continuing to harp on this is proof and further hypocrisy. You talking about them wanting the spotlight. Yet you can't seem to stop putting the spotlight on yourself to talk about them. To talk about him keeps you alive in people's minds. You were a good coach. But no Phil Jackson. No pat Riley. No pops. Seems like your claim to fame is who you coached and you going to hold onto it as long as possible.
You are guilty of the same thing that boils your blood about Carmelo. You want to be famous but you're a flawed person who doesn't deserve it because you go about it the wrong way. Only he's better than you. And that really gripes your ass.
Hopefully your book is financially successful so you can hire some pr people to help you hide it better.
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Rotten Apple wrote:blueNorange wrote:Rotten Apple wrote:
bNo is sickcame in to troll and got called out then went to watch the Giants game that starts in 9 hours
i actually am looking for a stream, will be at work.
i'm too tired that i can't sleep.
I think TNF is streamed on Twitter. I'm pretty sure most users on here have a Twitter account.
the actual game or just clips?
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Tron Carter wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:blueNorange wrote:you didn't contradict anything i said, you posted a quote of melo being coy and talking about how he doesn't hate KP so it's not true
and someone else used a former nba player as a source to counter me who also used a former nba player as a source.
All u did was post an article but didn't provide any quotes to support your claim. In the article you posted it said "But everyone wasn't a fan of him being the new star, so he didn't stay long". How is he talking about melo? He Oh yeah he isn't. Here's what he said right after.Stoudemire told Anthony that he wasn’t taking any veiled shots at him when discussing his time with the New York Knicks on Sunday.
“I've never mentioned his name once. We're close friends, family,” Stoudemire told Miami reporters. “Our kids were born a couple months apart.
Y'all melo haters be delusional and never accept facts. Just pure BS.
you didn't see him post his grand exit? he makes agenda driven statements then dips that's his m.o.
He's going to watch the Giants game.

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George Karl's biggest flaw will always be his arrogance that resulted in him demanding absolute authority over his players. I always felt like George Karl should have been a college coach. He really had a great ability to develop role players who were willing to buy into his system. I can think of so many players who owe their career to Karl:
Steve Blake
Anthony Carter
Linas Kleiza
Eduardo Najera
Yakhouba Diawara
Dahntay Jones
Arron Afflalo
Unfortunately these level of role players don't win championships. Georges Karl's refusal to coach around his star players will always be his down fall. In the NBA a coach doesn't get absolute authority like in college. A Kobe or Lebron will always be far more valuable to a franchise than any coach and coaches need to remember their place on the totem pole for this very reason.
Steve Blake
Anthony Carter
Linas Kleiza
Eduardo Najera
Yakhouba Diawara
Dahntay Jones
Arron Afflalo
Unfortunately these level of role players don't win championships. Georges Karl's refusal to coach around his star players will always be his down fall. In the NBA a coach doesn't get absolute authority like in college. A Kobe or Lebron will always be far more valuable to a franchise than any coach and coaches need to remember their place on the totem pole for this very reason.
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blueNorange wrote:Rotten Apple wrote:blueNorange wrote:i actually am looking for a stream, will be at work.
i'm too tired that i can't sleep.
I think TNF is streamed on Twitter. I'm pretty sure most users on here have a Twitter account.
the actual game or just clips?
Entire game
TNF.Twitter.com
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Im Coming Home wrote:Tron Carter wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:All u did was post an article but didn't provide any quotes to support your claim. In the article you posted it said "But everyone wasn't a fan of him being the new star, so he didn't stay long". How is he talking about melo? He Oh yeah he isn't. Here's what he said right after.
Y'all melo haters be delusional and never accept facts. Just pure BS.
you didn't see him post his grand exit? he makes agenda driven statements then dips that's his m.o.
He's going to watch the Giants game.
it's nice to have a great team in ny during the winter.
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echelonNYK wrote:Not everyone is a fan of Melo. News at 10.
I didn't need George Karl to tell me that for the 15th time though.

I read it enough on this board.
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Rotten Apple wrote:blueNorange wrote:Rotten Apple wrote:
I think TNF is streamed on Twitter. I'm pretty sure most users on here have a Twitter account.
the actual game or just clips?
Entire game
TNF.Twitter.com
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blueNorange wrote:Im Coming Home wrote:Tron Carter wrote:
you didn't see him post his grand exit? he makes agenda driven statements then dips that's his m.o.
He's going to watch the Giants game.
it's nice to have a great team in ny during the winter.
I got my Knicks, all I need.

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NYKAL wrote:MrProb wrote:In the name of the father (Melo), the son (KP) and the holy spirit (Rose), please lead this poor little lamb out of darkness, forgive him and may he rest in peace, Amelo
I HATE YOU. Spit coffee all over my desktop. Mike steal that as my sig.
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ShazamDaShiznt wrote:ChaosHamster wrote:ShazamDaShiznt wrote:
Karl is a racist, back in 90s he said black coaches were getting coaching jobs not because of the skills, but because of the affirmative action.
How is this racist?
its not racist to racists
lol
yeah, bringing up racial question with american wasn't a good idea..

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blueNorange wrote:Rotten Apple wrote:blueNorange wrote:the actual game or just clips?
Entire game
TNF.Twitter.com
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F*ck George Karl. If you have beef with every player you ever coached then you're the problem. Nobody is so unlucky that every player they ever coached was a bad guy. Saying what he did about Melo and K-Mart not having fathers is beyond over the line. You would think that someone who was sick would be a little more careful with their karma but I guess not.
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blueNorange wrote:he's not wrong, but let's all trash george karl for the sake of it.
Homers will be homers.
At the same time Karl was never a coach that demanded respect and usually just traded everyone he didn't get along with instead of making it work.
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Im Coming Home wrote:blueNorange wrote:Im Coming Home wrote:He's going to watch the Giants game.
it's nice to have a great team in ny during the winter.
I got my Knicks, all I need.
He said great.
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ChaosHamster wrote:ShazamDaShiznt wrote:ChaosHamster wrote:
How is this racist?
its not racist to racists
lol
yeah, bringing up racial question with american wasn't a good idea..
I'll try to fairly explain it to you.
Its racist because he was basically discrediting any/all of the black coaches in the league at the time by claiming they were only hired because of affirmative action. Why does race even matter in that situation? Why did he feel the need to discredit all/any of the black coaches in the league at the time?
It was an unnecessary comment that points towards him possibly being racist, or at least leaning that way.
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MP4LIFE wrote:Im Coming Home wrote:blueNorange wrote:it's nice to have a great team in ny during the winter.
I got my Knicks, all I need.
He said great.
Like I said,
I got my Knicks, all I need.

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Phish Tank wrote:I don't know one player that had anything good to say about George Karl... do you know anyone?
nope, no one, in fact:
http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/6/23/8830539/george-karl-snake-demarcus-cousins-history

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Im Coming Home wrote:MP4LIFE wrote:Im Coming Home wrote:I got my Knicks, all I need.
He said great.
Like I said,
I got my Knicks, all I need.
I'm sorry to hear that. All the best.
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RE Jr. Smith:
Those Cavs are chock full of Possies!!!
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There goes my hero. He's ordinary.
There goes my hero. He's ordinary.