Porzingis thread #4: The KP era is upon us

[IllmaticHandler]

yall Just giving Kamp more energy....


Herpzingis...

[thebuzzardman]

Sucks.

-> Isn't good on D.
-> Can't defend 4's
-> 5's beat him up
-> Not Alpha enough
-> Post game sucks
-> Not Joel Embiid
-> Gets abused by midgets
-> His blocks are fake
-> Handle needs work
-> Not Jokitch
-> Lives on the perimeter too much
-> Ran Phil out
-> Anemic
-> Too deferential
-> Not the real unicorn
-> Attitude sucks
-> WHG is better
-> Sean Van Novacamby
-> License revoked
-> Not KT
-> Has herps
-> Instagram models + over thirst (could be related to prior)
-> no testicular fortitude
-> Working out wrong way
-> Too much Janis work
-> Janis is bad agent and person
-> Alt-Right Hairdo
-> Wingspan challenged
-> Injury prone
-> Punked by Anthony Randolph
-> Diva
-> Too tall/too spindley
-> No Sharrington Disease
-> Bad screener/ weak picks
-> P&R needs work
-> Poor court sense
-> Tends to drift
-> Poor rebounder


Did I miss anything aggregating the various negative opinions?

Imagine if everyone here hated him.

In all honesty, this list has brought a number of other issues to my attention which I did not even consider previously. I was already concerned about our supposed "star" of the future, now I am confident he will never live up to the hype or the pressures of New York.

GTFO Herpzingis.

Dutifully updated

[thebuzzardman]

yall Just giving Kamp more energy....


Herpzingis...

I might have to start using "Sean Van Novasimplex" in honor of that.

[god shammgod]

http://nypost.com/2017/09/26/kristaps-porzingis-offers-some-insight-into-his-leadership-style/

With a monster slam dunk off a fast-break drill, Kristaps Porzingis finished up his first Knicks practice with Carmelo Anthony wiped from the roster. His teammates surrounded Porzingis for high-fives.

Porzingis is now “The Man” — and leader — at age 21. Anthony’s six-year, seven-month reign as the Knicks’ franchise player truly ended on the practice court Tuesday.

“I think it’s going to come to me naturally,’’ Porzingis said of leadership. “I don’t need to force it. First thing I’ll do is be the hardest-working guy. We have a bunch of guys who work hard. I will work hard also and give an example. From that hard work, you can be a leader and give it to your teammates.

“I’m still trying to get better as a basketball player, but also working on those leadership skills. As we move forward, I’m only going to get better at it.”

Anthony was often criticized for lacking dynamic leadership. Anthony admitted he wasn’t into rah-rah-speeches or getting in a teammate’s face. What Anthony, popular in the locker room, did best as a leader was become a teammate’s friend.

Porzingis said he doesn’t believe he’ll be making many speeches either.

“There’s moments I talk, but it’s mostly about basketball and talking about things I see,’’ Porzingis said. “I might be more vocal during a game or at halftime than motivating guys [pregame]. I’m more that kind of guy.”

Working out all summer in Latvia and playing for his country’s national team, Porzingis said he’s up to 240 pounds after ending last season at 234. But increasing his strength, he said, is the key to helping his low-post play — which the Knicks coaching staff wants improved. Nevertheless, the Knicks never got to sit down with Porzingis to go over his offseason program after he skipped his exit meeting.

“The goal this summer wasn’t going to get bigger and gain weight,’’ Porzingis said. “The weight is going to come to me naturally. It was to get stronger, get more explosive, kind of get tighter. That’s going to help me everywhere on the floor. ‘’

In averaging 23 points during the European championships, Porzingis scored inside and out.

“I worked on my post game,’’ Porzingis said. “I played a lot more in the post in Euro basket. They’re not that physical. But I think I improved on that and I’m excited to show that in the games. That’s one thing I want to show. And I also, I worked on some moves and also I’m excited for a new season, for new things that people are going to see from me.”

For the second straight day, Porzingis showed no signs of the anger he felt when he left the country in late April, disgruntled with the franchise’s chaotic state. In place of ousted president Phil Jackson, there was the new brain trust Steve Mills and Scott Perry standing side by side Tuesday, observing the court where Porzingis played in a scrimmage and did drills. Perry didn’t meet Porzingis until Monday.

“We have a lot of new faces and not only the players, but also the training staff,’’ Porzingis said. “A lot of new faces. It’s good to have new people that want to work, that want to work hard. Everybody is motivated.

“Hopefully we can do something special this year and surprise everybody.”

[2010]

http://nypost.com/2017/09/26/kristaps-porzingis-offers-some-insight-into-his-leadership-style/

With a monster slam dunk off a fast-break drill, Kristaps Porzingis finished up his first Knicks practice with Carmelo Anthony wiped from the roster. His teammates surrounded Porzingis for high-fives.

Porzingis is now “The Man” — and leader — at age 21. Anthony’s six-year, seven-month reign as the Knicks’ franchise player truly ended on the practice court Tuesday.

“I think it’s going to come to me naturally,’’ Porzingis said of leadership. “I don’t need to force it. First thing I’ll do is be the hardest-working guy. We have a bunch of guys who work hard. I will work hard also and give an example. From that hard work, you can be a leader and give it to your teammates.

“I’m still trying to get better as a basketball player, but also working on those leadership skills. As we move forward, I’m only going to get better at it.”

Anthony was often criticized for lacking dynamic leadership. Anthony admitted he wasn’t into rah-rah-speeches or getting in a teammate’s face. What Anthony, popular in the locker room, did best as a leader was become a teammate’s friend.

Porzingis said he doesn’t believe he’ll be making many speeches either.

“There’s moments I talk, but it’s mostly about basketball and talking about things I see,’’ Porzingis said. “I might be more vocal during a game or at halftime than motivating guys [pregame]. I’m more that kind of guy.”

Working out all summer in Latvia and playing for his country’s national team, Porzingis said he’s up to 240 pounds after ending last season at 234. But increasing his strength, he said, is the key to helping his low-post play — which the Knicks coaching staff wants improved. Nevertheless, the Knicks never got to sit down with Porzingis to go over his offseason program after he skipped his exit meeting.

“The goal this summer wasn’t going to get bigger and gain weight,’’ Porzingis said. “The weight is going to come to me naturally. It was to get stronger, get more explosive, kind of get tighter. That’s going to help me everywhere on the floor. ‘’

In averaging 23 points during the European championships, Porzingis scored inside and out.

“I worked on my post game,’’ Porzingis said. “I played a lot more in the post in Euro basket. They’re not that physical. But I think I improved on that and I’m excited to show that in the games. That’s one thing I want to show. And I also, I worked on some moves and also I’m excited for a new season, for new things that people are going to see from me.”

For the second straight day, Porzingis showed no signs of the anger he felt when he left the country in late April, disgruntled with the franchise’s chaotic state. In place of ousted president Phil Jackson, there was the new brain trust Steve Mills and Scott Perry standing side by side Tuesday, observing the court where Porzingis played in a scrimmage and did drills. Perry didn’t meet Porzingis until Monday.

“We have a lot of new faces and not only the players, but also the training staff,’’ Porzingis said. “A lot of new faces. It’s good to have new people that want to work, that want to work hard. Everybody is motivated.

“Hopefully we can do something special this year and surprise everybody.”

Who do you got being the vocal rah rah leader type that KP mentions he won't necessarily be?

[god shammgod]

http://nypost.com/2017/09/26/kristaps-porzingis-offers-some-insight-into-his-leadership-style/

With a monster slam dunk off a fast-break drill, Kristaps Porzingis finished up his first Knicks practice with Carmelo Anthony wiped from the roster. His teammates surrounded Porzingis for high-fives.

Porzingis is now “The Man” — and leader — at age 21. Anthony’s six-year, seven-month reign as the Knicks’ franchise player truly ended on the practice court Tuesday.

“I think it’s going to come to me naturally,’’ Porzingis said of leadership. “I don’t need to force it. First thing I’ll do is be the hardest-working guy. We have a bunch of guys who work hard. I will work hard also and give an example. From that hard work, you can be a leader and give it to your teammates.

“I’m still trying to get better as a basketball player, but also working on those leadership skills. As we move forward, I’m only going to get better at it.”

Anthony was often criticized for lacking dynamic leadership. Anthony admitted he wasn’t into rah-rah-speeches or getting in a teammate’s face. What Anthony, popular in the locker room, did best as a leader was become a teammate’s friend.

Porzingis said he doesn’t believe he’ll be making many speeches either.

“There’s moments I talk, but it’s mostly about basketball and talking about things I see,’’ Porzingis said. “I might be more vocal during a game or at halftime than motivating guys [pregame]. I’m more that kind of guy.”

Working out all summer in Latvia and playing for his country’s national team, Porzingis said he’s up to 240 pounds after ending last season at 234. But increasing his strength, he said, is the key to helping his low-post play — which the Knicks coaching staff wants improved. Nevertheless, the Knicks never got to sit down with Porzingis to go over his offseason program after he skipped his exit meeting.

“The goal this summer wasn’t going to get bigger and gain weight,’’ Porzingis said. “The weight is going to come to me naturally. It was to get stronger, get more explosive, kind of get tighter. That’s going to help me everywhere on the floor. ‘’

In averaging 23 points during the European championships, Porzingis scored inside and out.

“I worked on my post game,’’ Porzingis said. “I played a lot more in the post in Euro basket. They’re not that physical. But I think I improved on that and I’m excited to show that in the games. That’s one thing I want to show. And I also, I worked on some moves and also I’m excited for a new season, for new things that people are going to see from me.”

For the second straight day, Porzingis showed no signs of the anger he felt when he left the country in late April, disgruntled with the franchise’s chaotic state. In place of ousted president Phil Jackson, there was the new brain trust Steve Mills and Scott Perry standing side by side Tuesday, observing the court where Porzingis played in a scrimmage and did drills. Perry didn’t meet Porzingis until Monday.

“We have a lot of new faces and not only the players, but also the training staff,’’ Porzingis said. “A lot of new faces. It’s good to have new people that want to work, that want to work hard. Everybody is motivated.

“Hopefully we can do something special this year and surprise everybody.”

Who do you got being the vocal rah rah leader type that KP mentions he won't necessarily be?

it will probably be noah or kyle. they seem like the only guys with that personality. but if they don't play they can't really be that.

[SelbyCobra]

How is the word "diva" nowhere on such an exhaustive list?

Also, "too tall".

I felt that Diva was encompassed in "bad attitude" but I think the state of Divaness is unique, so will add.

Sean Van Novacamby contains "too tall Sean" in there, but will clarify with own item

"Falls like an old person, lands like a sack of flour."

[Wolfgang630]

It's great to hear KP wanting to be in the post more.

[Hemispheres]

Sucks.

-> Isn't good on D.
-> Can't defend 4's
-> 5's beat him up
-> Not Alpha enough
-> Post game sucks
-> Not Joel Embiid
-> Gets abused by midgets
-> His blocks are fake
-> Handle needs work
-> Not Jokitch
-> Lives on the perimeter too much
-> Ran Phil out
-> Anemic
-> Too deferential
-> Not the real unicorn
-> Attitude sucks
-> WHG is better
-> Sean Van Novacamby
-> License revoked
-> Not KT
-> Has herps
-> Instagram models + over thirst (could be related to prior)
-> no testicular fortitude
-> Working out wrong way
-> Too much Janis work
-> Janis is bad agent and person
-> Alt-Right Hairdo
-> Wingspan challenged
-> Injury prone
-> Punked by Anthony Randolph
-> Diva
-> Too tall/too spindley
-> No Sharrington Disease
-> Bad screener/ weak picks
-> P&R needs work
-> Poor court sense
-> Tends to drift
-> Poor rebounder


Did I miss anything aggregating the various negative opinions?

Imagine if everyone here hated him.

In all honesty, this list has brought a number of other issues to my attention which I did not even consider previously. I was already concerned about our supposed "star" of the future, now I am confident he will never live up to the hype or the pressures of New York.

GTFO Herpzingis.

Dutifully updated

Nice comprehensive list. If I had to pick a favorite, it was reading the resident mouth breathers argue over whether he properly meets the prerequisites of a Unicorn. That was a whole new level of autism on display.

[Da_Mane_Man]

http://nypost.com/2017/09/26/kristaps-porzingis-offers-some-insight-into-his-leadership-style/

With a monster slam dunk off a fast-break drill, Kristaps Porzingis finished up his first Knicks practice with Carmelo Anthony wiped from the roster. His teammates surrounded Porzingis for high-fives.

Porzingis is now “The Man” — and leader — at age 21. Anthony’s six-year, seven-month reign as the Knicks’ franchise player truly ended on the practice court Tuesday.

“I think it’s going to come to me naturally,’’ Porzingis said of leadership. “I don’t need to force it. First thing I’ll do is be the hardest-working guy. We have a bunch of guys who work hard. I will work hard also and give an example. From that hard work, you can be a leader and give it to your teammates.

“I’m still trying to get better as a basketball player, but also working on those leadership skills. As we move forward, I’m only going to get better at it.”

Anthony was often criticized for lacking dynamic leadership. Anthony admitted he wasn’t into rah-rah-speeches or getting in a teammate’s face. What Anthony, popular in the locker room, did best as a leader was become a teammate’s friend.

Porzingis said he doesn’t believe he’ll be making many speeches either.

“There’s moments I talk, but it’s mostly about basketball and talking about things I see,’’ Porzingis said. “I might be more vocal during a game or at halftime than motivating guys [pregame]. I’m more that kind of guy.”

Working out all summer in Latvia and playing for his country’s national team, Porzingis said he’s up to 240 pounds after ending last season at 234. But increasing his strength, he said, is the key to helping his low-post play — which the Knicks coaching staff wants improved. Nevertheless, the Knicks never got to sit down with Porzingis to go over his offseason program after he skipped his exit meeting.

“The goal this summer wasn’t going to get bigger and gain weight,’’ Porzingis said. “The weight is going to come to me naturally. It was to get stronger, get more explosive, kind of get tighter. That’s going to help me everywhere on the floor. ‘’

In averaging 23 points during the European championships, Porzingis scored inside and out.

“I worked on my post game,’’ Porzingis said. “I played a lot more in the post in Euro basket. They’re not that physical. But I think I improved on that and I’m excited to show that in the games. That’s one thing I want to show. And I also, I worked on some moves and also I’m excited for a new season, for new things that people are going to see from me.”

For the second straight day, Porzingis showed no signs of the anger he felt when he left the country in late April, disgruntled with the franchise’s chaotic state. In place of ousted president Phil Jackson, there was the new brain trust Steve Mills and Scott Perry standing side by side Tuesday, observing the court where Porzingis played in a scrimmage and did drills. Perry didn’t meet Porzingis until Monday.

“We have a lot of new faces and not only the players, but also the training staff,’’ Porzingis said. “A lot of new faces. It’s good to have new people that want to work, that want to work hard. Everybody is motivated.

“Hopefully we can do something special this year and surprise everybody.”

Jesus. The bolded part makes me want to shed a tear. That is EXACTLY what I want to hear and EXACTLY how he should be approaching it. He's going to take a BIG step forward this year if he stays healthy.

My excitement levels for KP individually and this team developing together are going through the roof.

[aq_ua]

http://nypost.com/2017/09/26/kristaps-porzingis-offers-some-insight-into-his-leadership-style/

Who do you got being the vocal rah rah leader type that KP mentions he won't necessarily be?

it will probably be noah or kyle. they seem like the only guys with that personality. but if they don't play they can't really be that.

Kanter seems like a pretty vocal guy - he'll most certainly get burn (until he's traded).

[Sark]

http://nypost.com/2017/09/26/kristaps-porzingis-offers-some-insight-into-his-leadership-style/

With a monster slam dunk off a fast-break drill, Kristaps Porzingis finished up his first Knicks practice with Carmelo Anthony wiped from the roster. His teammates surrounded Porzingis for high-fives.

Porzingis is now “The Man” — and leader — at age 21. Anthony’s six-year, seven-month reign as the Knicks’ franchise player truly ended on the practice court Tuesday.

“I think it’s going to come to me naturally,’’ Porzingis said of leadership. “I don’t need to force it. First thing I’ll do is be the hardest-working guy. We have a bunch of guys who work hard. I will work hard also and give an example. From that hard work, you can be a leader and give it to your teammates.

“I’m still trying to get better as a basketball player, but also working on those leadership skills. As we move forward, I’m only going to get better at it.”

Anthony was often criticized for lacking dynamic leadership. Anthony admitted he wasn’t into rah-rah-speeches or getting in a teammate’s face. What Anthony, popular in the locker room, did best as a leader was become a teammate’s friend.

Porzingis said he doesn’t believe he’ll be making many speeches either.

“There’s moments I talk, but it’s mostly about basketball and talking about things I see,’’ Porzingis said. “I might be more vocal during a game or at halftime than motivating guys [pregame]. I’m more that kind of guy.”

Working out all summer in Latvia and playing for his country’s national team, Porzingis said he’s up to 240 pounds after ending last season at 234. But increasing his strength, he said, is the key to helping his low-post play — which the Knicks coaching staff wants improved. Nevertheless, the Knicks never got to sit down with Porzingis to go over his offseason program after he skipped his exit meeting.

“The goal this summer wasn’t going to get bigger and gain weight,’’ Porzingis said. “The weight is going to come to me naturally. It was to get stronger, get more explosive, kind of get tighter. That’s going to help me everywhere on the floor. ‘’

In averaging 23 points during the European championships, Porzingis scored inside and out.

“I worked on my post game,’’ Porzingis said. “I played a lot more in the post in Euro basket. They’re not that physical. But I think I improved on that and I’m excited to show that in the games. That’s one thing I want to show. And I also, I worked on some moves and also I’m excited for a new season, for new things that people are going to see from me.”

For the second straight day, Porzingis showed no signs of the anger he felt when he left the country in late April, disgruntled with the franchise’s chaotic state. In place of ousted president Phil Jackson, there was the new brain trust Steve Mills and Scott Perry standing side by side Tuesday, observing the court where Porzingis played in a scrimmage and did drills. Perry didn’t meet Porzingis until Monday.

“We have a lot of new faces and not only the players, but also the training staff,’’ Porzingis said. “A lot of new faces. It’s good to have new people that want to work, that want to work hard. Everybody is motivated.

“Hopefully we can do something special this year and surprise everybody.”

I think we found more for Buzz' list

Hasn't been a hard worker yet
Not good at basketball skills yet
No leadership skills

[stuporman]

Another of KP's shortcomings is that unlike real unicorns, he doesn't poop rainbows and fart sparkles.

[April madness]

Sucks.

Isn't good on D.
Can't defend 4's
5's beat him up
Not Alpha enough
Post game sucks
Not Joel Embiid
Gets abused by midgets
His blocks are fake
Handle needs work
Not Jokitch
Lives on the perimeter too much
Ran Phil out
Anemic
Too deferential
Not the real unicorn
Attitude sucks
WHG is better
Sean Van Novacamby
License revoked
Not KT
Has herps
Instagram models + over thirst (could be related to prior)
no testicular fortitude
Working out wrong way
Too much Janis work
Janis is bad agent and person
Alt-Right Hairdo
Wingspan challenged
Injury prone
Punked by Anthony Randolph
Diva
Too tall/too spindley
No Sharrington Disease
Bad screener/ weak picks
P&R needs work
Poor court sense
Tends to drift
Poor rebounder
Won't Live Up to Hype And Pressure


Did I miss anything aggregating the various negative opinions?

Imagine if everyone here hated him.

You should have added that he's too Latvian (meaning he's going to Latvia for summer, doing nothing/filming too many workout videos there and playing for his national team, thus risking injuries and getting punked by Randolph there).

[Lotsix]

Is this KP hate real? If so u guys can all gtfo.....fans like u guys are why we are laughed at....We could have prime MJ and to u dumb@sses would find something to complain about

[F N 11]

Is this KP hate real? If so u guys can all gtfo.....fans like u guys are why we are laughed at....We could have prime MJ and to u dumb@sses would find something to complain about

1.Discredit Hardaways last 48 games. Check
2.Hate on KP as soon as Melo is traded. Check
3.Talk about kP has herpes because they just want to be negative. Check
4.Complain about trade even though Melo had a NTC and held all the cards. Check
5.Act as if keeping Carmelo would of made us a good team. Check

[Kurt Rambis]

Is this KP hate real? If so u guys can all gtfo.....fans like u guys are why we are laughed at....We could have prime MJ and to u dumb@sses would find something to complain about

Spends too much time in air.
Can't keep tongue in.
Rejected by Madonna because his d**k was smaller than Pippen.

[thebuzzardman]

Is this KP hate real? If so u guys can all gtfo.....fans like u guys are why we are laughed at....We could have prime MJ and to u dumb@sses would find something to complain about

The KP hate isn't real, but it really is a list of things posters have stated about him, though I don't think but a handful of them really care about the Herps.

Good news - he's already not a bust, at all, at #4.
Next news - he's good
Future news - will he be "a good, very good, or great piece". Some division if he's a franchise "cornerstone".

If's not one, I think at least he'll be one of two.

[Fat]

http://nypost.com/2017/09/26/kristaps-porzingis-offers-some-insight-into-his-leadership-style/

With a monster slam dunk off a fast-break drill, Kristaps Porzingis finished up his first Knicks practice with Carmelo Anthony wiped from the roster. His teammates surrounded Porzingis for high-fives.

Porzingis is now “The Man” — and leader — at age 21. Anthony’s six-year, seven-month reign as the Knicks’ franchise player truly ended on the practice court Tuesday.

“I think it’s going to come to me naturally,’’ Porzingis said of leadership. “I don’t need to force it. First thing I’ll do is be the hardest-working guy. We have a bunch of guys who work hard. I will work hard also and give an example. From that hard work, you can be a leader and give it to your teammates.

“I’m still trying to get better as a basketball player, but also working on those leadership skills. As we move forward, I’m only going to get better at it.”

Anthony was often criticized for lacking dynamic leadership. Anthony admitted he wasn’t into rah-rah-speeches or getting in a teammate’s face. What Anthony, popular in the locker room, did best as a leader was become a teammate’s friend.

Porzingis said he doesn’t believe he’ll be making many speeches either.

“There’s moments I talk, but it’s mostly about basketball and talking about things I see,’’ Porzingis said. “I might be more vocal during a game or at halftime than motivating guys [pregame]. I’m more that kind of guy.”

Working out all summer in Latvia and playing for his country’s national team, Porzingis said he’s up to 240 pounds after ending last season at 234. But increasing his strength, he said, is the key to helping his low-post play — which the Knicks coaching staff wants improved. Nevertheless, the Knicks never got to sit down with Porzingis to go over his offseason program after he skipped his exit meeting.

“The goal this summer wasn’t going to get bigger and gain weight,’’ Porzingis said. “The weight is going to come to me naturally. It was to get stronger, get more explosive, kind of get tighter. That’s going to help me everywhere on the floor. ‘’

In averaging 23 points during the European championships, Porzingis scored inside and out.

“I worked on my post game,’’ Porzingis said. “I played a lot more in the post in Euro basket. They’re not that physical. But I think I improved on that and I’m excited to show that in the games. That’s one thing I want to show. And I also, I worked on some moves and also I’m excited for a new season, for new things that people are going to see from me.”

For the second straight day, Porzingis showed no signs of the anger he felt when he left the country in late April, disgruntled with the franchise’s chaotic state. In place of ousted president Phil Jackson, there was the new brain trust Steve Mills and Scott Perry standing side by side Tuesday, observing the court where Porzingis played in a scrimmage and did drills. Perry didn’t meet Porzingis until Monday.

“We have a lot of new faces and not only the players, but also the training staff,’’ Porzingis said. “A lot of new faces. It’s good to have new people that want to work, that want to work hard. Everybody is motivated.

“Hopefully we can do something special this year and surprise everybody.”

Who do you got being the vocal rah rah leader type that KP mentions he won't necessarily be?

jarret jack. He has the experience and he's been around vocal guys in his career. He was also a big vocal voice off the bench when he was on the warriors. The same 2012-13 warriors that didnt clinch a playoff spot since 2007

[dakomish23]

I had KP taking Davis leap in year two but didn't factor in his PG actively nit passing him the ball. With Frank Baker & Sessions I'm assuming that won't happen anymore.

In 35 MPG:

24 PPG 8 RPG 2 APG 2.5 BPG 1.5 SPG
48 FG% 42 3PT% 82 FT%

All star lock and All NBA if the Knicks somehow sneak into the playoffs.

Get em KP. Looking forward to all these salty fans of other teams eating crow, who act like the kid isn't special.