Willy Hernangomez wants to get traded by the deadline per hoopshype and marca.com

[Fat]

free willy

[DOT]

Like, I don't even care anymore that he isn't literally saying he wants to be traded

Dude needs to stop talking to the media

[IAmTheBest]

In the ideal world willy would stfu and be confident that he's part of something bigger in the future.

this isnt the ideal world, though, this is the knicks and willy is a 23 year old sophomore trying to make the most out of what could be a lucrative career in the NBA.

I can't blame willy for making a push and speaking out. The Knicks have all the power over him and can cripple his career by letting him rot on the bench then kicking him to the curb after changing their minds. Promises don't mean **** unless you are on a stable gold standard organization like the Spurs. Willy has already seen what happened to minDAWG, hell all over the league, so he is just doing what's best for himself instead of being passive and then getting screwed by management. nobody is really safe in this league

He was told that he was going to be a big part of the core, and that got derailed real quick. Kanter and Oquinn getting all the minutes and Kanter saying he'd like to retire a Knick lol. There's nothing stopping it from being further derailed. nothing is guaranteed.

[BasicBall]

Really big test for Perry coming up February 8th.
Is he like the other GMs we've had in the past who can't see the writing on the wall and can't fully trust the rebuild.
Our does he understand is that for the only way for this team to improve is to shed the vets and gain more assets.
There is no reason Lee/O'Quinn/Kanter/Lance should be on this team if there's a deal out there that could either provide assets or improve cap flexibility.
Perry its on you man

Kyle/Kanter and Lance can go. Everything else I'm ok with keeping, FOR NOW!! I agree though, this is a HUGE test for the current regime!

[Jeff Van Gully]

Move Kanter today

do we press square or circle to finalize?

[Jeff Van Gully]

Really big test for Perry coming up February 8th.
Is he like the other GMs we've had in the past who can't see the writing on the wall and can't fully trust the rebuild.
Our does he understand is that for the only way for this team to improve is to shed the vets and gain more assets.
There is no reason Lee/O'Quinn/Kanter/Lance should be on this team if there's a deal out there that could either provide assets or improve cap flexibility.
Perry its on you man

Kyle/Kanter and Lance can go. Everything else I'm ok with keeping, FOR NOW!! I agree though, this is a HUGE test for the current regime!

i wonder what the market for lance is tho.

[Jeff Van Gully]

Like, I don't even care anymore that he isn't literally saying he wants to be traded

Dude needs to stop talking to the media

nod and smile, bro. he hasn't learned.

he's so thirsty tho. that's the most action and attention he's gotten in a while, so he going all the way, i suppose.

[NYKnicks6]

I get that he's upset but he should consider playing better in the limited minutes that he's plays. The guy was benched because of his defense and when he has played this yr his defense has gotten worse and even his offense has been pretty bad.

The guy lacks confidence and it's a damn shame because he is pretty skilled

Guy was benched because a center who's earning 18mil a year was acquired the night before training camp as the main piece of the franchise altering Carmelo trade. That's why he was benched. Otherwise he'd be playing and I'd argue that he'd be getting meaningful minutes on 80% of the teams right now.
With more reps, Willy could improve defensively. There's no question. When he getting consistent minutes with KP they looking like a formidable duo. We need to see that again to assess if there's something with Willy we should hold on to.
Kanter was a spark in the beginning of the year, but that act has quickly turned about face. Merry and Pills need to realize that no one is going to judge the carmelo trade on whether Kanter is a revelation. Something needs to happen right now.

Willy has played like **** ever since he got benched during the FIBA tourney in September. And we're only 3 months into the season, a little over half through the season and this guy is complaining as if he deserves his spot based on last yr's performance

Now, I do think we should keep Willy and he should be playing the back up C position but we can't act like he's playing remotely close to decent when he's been on the floor, both Kyle and Kanter have outplayed him. Plus we need to play those guys, especially Kyle, if we want to maximize what ever we can get for him via trade.

I agree but I think the showcasing should be over at this point. Every front office around the league knows what they would get out of our vets. At this point we are risking an injury with them and if that happens you can forget about a trade. It's time to begin playing the youngins and giving them full time experience.

[Jeff Van Gully]

2010 tried to tell yall mfers

that gif is amazing. ric flair = GOAT.

[j4remi]

Willy's numbers from Feb. to the end of last season:
24.4 mpg - 11 ppg, 9 rpg, 2 apg 1.7 TO 52% from the field

Kanter this season:
25.3 mpg - 13.5 ppg, 10 rpg, 1.4 apg, 1.7 TO 60% from the field

I'm not saying Kanter isn't outperforming him slightly. But Kanter's in his seventh season on a 16 million dollar contract with a player option while Willy is in his second year, almost exactly 2 years younger and locked up for 1.5 million dollars for the next few years. Trying to find a taker for Kanter makes worlds more sense than trading Willy. The difference isn't big enough to give up on Willy and hold on to a monster sized contract.

[Jeff Van Gully]

i proposed this trade on the trade block seems like it could make sense for all parties

Knicks Trade:

Kyle O'quinn
Doug McDermott
Lance Thomas

Knicks Receive:

Cole Aldrich
2018 Celtics 1st rounder
2019 Miami Heat 2nd rounder (per Timberwolves)

Celtics Trade:

Aron Baynes
2018 Celtics 1st rounder

Celtics Receive:

Kyle O'Quinn
Doug McDermott

Timberwolves Trade:

Cole Aldrich
Miami Heat 2nd rounder

Timberwolves Receive:

Aron Baynes
Lance Thomas

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yb3smn4c

Reasons:

Knicks - trade a couple productive players that are on the last remaining part of there contracts and get some value for them. Take on Aldrichs extra year to get a little more value.

Celtics - there bench lacks shooting and interior defense. This trade accomplishes both without trading much value. KOQ is a upgrade over Baynes. Better rebounder, interior defender, and a more polished on the offensive end.(better passer for brad's unselfish offense). I don't know how the celtics roster situation is because I know they have a lot of players. I guess if the knicks like one of the young players that aren't currently in the rotation that maybe have late 1st round value that could be subbed in as well.

T-wolves - taking a player that doesn't play and adding a little insurance with Baynes. And a vet wing defender in Lance Thomas (thibs loves defenders) and he is someone you can throw on a durant or Harden a few times a game and he will compete on that end.

that is straight up knicks charity. nice to think of these things, but picks are valued more than that.

[Jeff Van Gully]

Willy's numbers from Feb. to the end of last season:
24.4 mpg - 11 ppg, 9 rpg, 2 apg 1.7 TO 52% from the field

Kanter this season:
25.3 mpg - 13.5 ppg, 10 rpg, 1.4 apg, 1.7 TO 60% from the field

I'm not saying Kanter isn't outperforming him slightly. But Kanter's in his seventh season on a 16 million dollar contract with a player option while Willy is in his second year, almost exactly 2 years younger and locked up for 1.5 million dollars for the next few years. Trying to find a taker for Kanter makes worlds more sense than trading Willy. The difference isn't big enough to give up on Willy and hold on to a monster sized contract.

agreed. willy can play the kanter role on paper. he isn't the same kind of motivator/cheerleader/teammate clearly. but his on-court production could be similar, down to the defensive liability.

kanter pleading to retire a knick because he should have a good idea that he's at high risk to be on the move again and NY got that bomb-ass turkish food.

[boomann21]

[Buttah304]

Willy's numbers from Feb. to the end of last season:
24.4 mpg - 11 ppg, 9 rpg, 2 apg 1.7 TO 52% from the field

Kanter this season:
25.3 mpg - 13.5 ppg, 10 rpg, 1.4 apg, 1.7 TO 60% from the field

I'm not saying Kanter isn't outperforming him slightly. But Kanter's in his seventh season on a 16 million dollar contract with a player option while Willy is in his second year, almost exactly 2 years younger and locked up for 1.5 million dollars for the next few years. Trying to find a taker for Kanter makes worlds more sense than trading Willy. The difference isn't big enough to give up on Willy and hold on to a monster sized contract.

This post makes far too much sense for a message board like this.

[BasicBall]

Only deal they really should consider is one for a BIG TIME PG. Since we all just making stuff up, how about this??

Kemba, Marvin Williams & Ron Baker to Portland
Kanter, Lance and the 2018 2nd rounder & a 2019 first rounder to Charlotte
Dame & Harkness to NY

[god shammgod]

remember when it was the media.......lol. the anti-media obsession on here when you don't want to believe something is always hysterical. a few of you have gone full trump declaring fake news at every turn.

[2010]

I argued a month ago that Billy never said he wanted to be traded. He didn't then but, now he has.

Has he though? Or is it just that the title of the thread should have been a runner up on Trump's fake news awards.

No..he just said he's open to being traded. Last time...the title was wrong. He didn't say he was open to a trade. He just kept saying he wants to play HERE. Now he's saying he'd be open to a trade because he just wants to play. Big difference.

It's stupid on his part. He's not lighting up the court most chances he gets. He's not smart enough to realize that Kyle is most likely gone soon? He's going to get minutes when that happens. Too impatient?

The fact that Jeff has this kid feeling the need to "pressure" the team is not good though. Is there more to this losing than meets the eye? Is Jeff losing his players? This is not a good look for either party. This kid should feel confident he's going to get an oportunity...not mad that he hasn't yet. Unless he's just an entitled little prick. That's always a possibility.

I take back my acknowledgement. You clearly stupid. He said the same thing before that he is saying now. Literally nothing has changed. He just being more blunt now.

And NOW there is the possibility that Willy is an entitled lil prick. Yet when I alluded to it you got butthurt.

Hmmm, maybe you are just thick in the skull and a bit slower to draw conclusions. That could explain it.

[blueNorange]

lol get this run of the mill clown off the team.

[mpharris36]

i proposed this trade on the trade block seems like it could make sense for all parties

Knicks Trade:

Kyle O'quinn
Doug McDermott
Lance Thomas

Knicks Receive:

Cole Aldrich
2018 Celtics 1st rounder
2019 Miami Heat 2nd rounder (per Timberwolves)

Celtics Trade:

Aron Baynes
2018 Celtics 1st rounder

Celtics Receive:

Kyle O'Quinn
Doug McDermott

Timberwolves Trade:

Cole Aldrich
Miami Heat 2nd rounder

Timberwolves Receive:

Aron Baynes
Lance Thomas

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yb3smn4c

Reasons:

Knicks - trade a couple productive players that are on the last remaining part of there contracts and get some value for them. Take on Aldrichs extra year to get a little more value.

Celtics - there bench lacks shooting and interior defense. This trade accomplishes both without trading much value. KOQ is a upgrade over Baynes. Better rebounder, interior defender, and a more polished on the offensive end.(better passer for brad's unselfish offense). I don't know how the celtics roster situation is because I know they have a lot of players. I guess if the knicks like one of the young players that aren't currently in the rotation that maybe have late 1st round value that could be subbed in as well.

T-wolves - taking a player that doesn't play and adding a little insurance with Baynes. And a vet wing defender in Lance Thomas (thibs loves defenders) and he is someone you can throw on a durant or Harden a few times a game and he will compete on that end.

that is straight up knicks charity. nice to think of these things, but picks are valued more than that.

a really late 1st from the celtics to add two good rotational players for a team thinking about making the finals? They have so many players on there roster to begin with. This is a serious upgrade for the C's...and twolves are trading aldrich crap for at least 2 players that can play.

[god shammgod]

and KOQ

...and Lee

....and thomas

what are we....miracle workers.....would you like water into wine too....you better wish upon a star with this dream