Draft Thread #16 - UPDATE pg 75ish - Knicks inquiring about trade ups

[LegoKnick76]

I personally would love to see Dallas trade with Memphis. Then Cuban drafts Doncic who refuses to come play for the Mavs.

[DOLPHIN2020]

F*ck Mark Cuban

No, F the Knicks for winning meaningless games and dropping in the Tank Wars.

Move up to 6 for Bamba or JJJ?

Would love for that to happen but we will end up getting Makal or Knox....Knicks will Knick

[reub]

No, F the Knicks for winning meaningless games and dropping in the Tank Wars.

Move up to 6 for Bamba or JJJ?

Would love for that to happen but we will end up getting Makal or Knox....Knicks will Knick

Mikal is a sharpshooter and a very good perimeter defensive player. A winner too. Someone who can help the team without the ball. We could do much worse.

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--Mags

Yea it makes a lot of sense for them and I been kinda surprised we haven’t heard of Dallas having interest in him.

I watched an episode of Entourage the other day where Mark Cuban said he was flying up to Sacramento to do a trade with the Kings, and I was like hmmm...

[levendis]

I don't hate Sexton, I think he fits next to Frank better than any other guard in the draft. Shouldn't be quick to dismiss someone who can breakdown the defense and score. And by all accounts he plays hard and works hard off the court. Alot to work with there, even if the jumper never really gets there. Frank can make up for the lack of vision/passing touch he has as the 2nd ball handler next to him.

[Dr. Detfink]

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--Mags

I dunno. Both players' games are dependent upon ball dominance. Neither player is that good defensively. This is why Doncic would be a great fit on the Knicks. He draws attention to himself and can set up guys on the perimeter.

Donovon Mitchell is an insane talent but he thinks score FIRST, pass second. The true genius is Gobert who sacrificed his personal offensive numbers to play goalie and executes the 2nd pass, hitting the open man.

[F N 11]

Jesus I just looked at the 2025-2016 roster.

[3toheadmelo]

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[thebuzzardman]

As it stands, the problem(s) with the Knicks is the fact, they currently do NOT create any mismatches except for their most valuable player who is currently on the DL. Their most valuable acquisition, Tim Hardaway Jr, often destroyed on defense at SF, only played five more games than the guy who blew his ACL. Frank Nitilikina is at least one more season from blossoming into starting talent.

Hence, the Knicks really DO need the best player in the draft.

If the Knicks don't move up, they're most likely going to draft another Channing Frye or Jordan Hill. Someone serviceable but doesn't have the Je ne sais quois to BE a vital cog. Something we've seen over and over and over again.

I've gone back and forth on this many times...and I think Mo Bamba would be the biggest game changer for the Knicks. While I question his jumper in a game situation on the NBA level, he would create havoc if he can get that medium range jumper...something the Knicks have not had since Patrick Ewing.

Who cares about mismatches etc. Draft who will be the best player and fit for AFTER this season. The Knicks will suck the balls this year without KP, so who cares. In fact, all the better.

[Polk377]

As it stands, the problem(s) with the Knicks is the fact, they currently do NOT create any mismatches except for their most valuable player who is currently on the DL. Their most valuable acquisition, Tim Hardaway Jr, often destroyed on defense at SF, only played five more games than the guy who blew his ACL. Frank Nitilikina is at least one more season from blossoming into starting talent.

Hence, the Knicks really DO need the best player in the draft.

If the Knicks don't move up, they're most likely going to draft another Channing Frye or Jordan Hill. Someone serviceable but doesn't have the Je ne sais quois to BE a vital cog. Something we've seen over and over and over again.

I've gone back and forth on this many times...and I think Mo Bamba would be the biggest game changer for the Knicks. While I question his jumper in a game situation on the NBA level, he would create havoc if he can get that medium range jumper...something the Knicks have not had since Patrick Ewing.

Who cares about mismatches etc. Draft who will be the best player and fit for AFTER this season. The Knicks will suck the balls this year without KP, so who cares. In fact, all the better.

What is this without KP business? He will be out max 20 games if not by November. He is not missing the whole season and is on track to a quick recovery.

[GONYK]

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[Clyde_Style]

Jesus I just looked at the 2025-2016 roster.

Was it so bad it made you want to eat Long Island pizza?

[Clyde_Style]

Move up to 6 for Bamba or JJJ?

Would love for that to happen but we will end up getting Makal or Knox....Knicks will Knick

Mikal is a sharpshooter and a very good perimeter defensive player. A winner too. Someone who can help the team without the ball. We could do much worse.

His winning pedigree is being underplayed too much probably to a large degree because of age bias. Sometimes it matters, sometimes it doesn't. Melo didn't learn anything from winning at Syracuse, but Mikal repeated and seems like a different kind of cat. He appears very team oriented which I like a great deal. Just two guys like him and Frank excelling can define a team's whole culture.

[thebuzzardman]

As it stands, the problem(s) with the Knicks is the fact, they currently do NOT create any mismatches except for their most valuable player who is currently on the DL. Their most valuable acquisition, Tim Hardaway Jr, often destroyed on defense at SF, only played five more games than the guy who blew his ACL. Frank Nitilikina is at least one more season from blossoming into starting talent.

Hence, the Knicks really DO need the best player in the draft.

If the Knicks don't move up, they're most likely going to draft another Channing Frye or Jordan Hill. Someone serviceable but doesn't have the Je ne sais quois to BE a vital cog. Something we've seen over and over and over again.

I've gone back and forth on this many times...and I think Mo Bamba would be the biggest game changer for the Knicks. While I question his jumper in a game situation on the NBA level, he would create havoc if he can get that medium range jumper...something the Knicks have not had since Patrick Ewing.

Who cares about mismatches etc. Draft who will be the best player and fit for AFTER this season. The Knicks will suck the balls this year without KP, so who cares. In fact, all the better.

What is this without KP business? He will be out max 20 games if not by November. He is not missing the whole season and is on track to a quick recovery.

I hope he's out most of the season. Then again, the faster he comes back, the faster he can blow out his knee again, so there's that. #TrusttheACLprocess

[thebuzzardman]

Jesus I just looked at the 2025-2016 roster.

You're the time traveler?

Was Lebron on the 2025 Knicks? I figure Owner, POBO and GM James Dolan gives him a 5 year max deal. Amiright?

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[Da_Mane_Man]

For anyone who's watched a lot of Luka: what makes him better than Hedo Turkoglu?

[Polk377]

Who cares about mismatches etc. Draft who will be the best player and fit for AFTER this season. The Knicks will suck the balls this year without KP, so who cares. In fact, all the better.

What is this without KP business? He will be out max 20 games if not by November. He is not missing the whole season and is on track to a quick recovery.

I hope he's out most of the season. Then again, the faster he comes back, the faster he can blow out his knee again, so there's that. #TrusttheACLprocess

Ughhh why do I even bother with you?

[2010]

Looking like my man Knox will be the pick:

https://nypost.com/2018/06/18/kentucky-youngster-works-his-way-onto-knicks-draft-radar/

The hype has hit overdrive for Kentucky freshman small forward Kevin Knox.

Kevin Knox Sr., Knox’s father and manager, told The Post he believes the Knicks are considering taking his son with the ninth pick in Thursday’s draft. According to an NBA source, Knox got the better of Michigan State’s Miles Bridges, another projected lottery pick, in their joint workout for the Knicks nine days ago.

“He had a terrific workout, even kicked around Miles Bridges, who is a couple of years older than him,’’ said the NBA source.

Knox, a 6-foot-9 shotmaker and the second-youngest player in the draft (he’ll turn 19 in August), has seen his draft stock rocket since private workouts began.

Contacted by The Post on Monday, Knox’s father, a former NFL wide receiver, said he senses the Knicks are serious, judging by a phone call he received from general manager Scott Perry a few days after that killer workout. Knox admitted Perry’s call partly revolved around his son’s youth and whether he would fit into a locker room with significantly older players.

Knox Sr., whose quarterback at Florida State was ex-Knick Charlie Ward, said he spoke to Perry for about 20 minutes.

“You never know, but I was thinking why would management call again to chat it up for 20 minutes about a potential client?’’ Knox Sr. said. “We talked about the roster and what a perfect fit he could be. That’s what Scott and I talked out. Scott said he seems mature for his age.

“Maybe Scott was calling to make sure I wasn’t a Lavar [Ball],’’ he added jokingly.

It sounded as if the Knicks could be Knox Sr.’s preference.

“An opportunity in New York, we’re excited about it,’’ he said. “There would be nice young building blocks with my son, [Kristaps] Porzingis, Frank [Ntilikina], Tim Hardaway Jr., [Emmanuel] Mudiay, Enes Kanter. They could be the Boston Celtics one day.’’

After the Knicks workout, the father called his son for feedback.

“He gave himself an A-minus,’’ Knox Sr. said. “He said he had a lot of energy, was bouncing off the walls. [Coach David] Fizdale came over and showed support. It was a three-on-three. I heard he got the better of Miles, knocked down shots, put it on the floor — Paul George-ish.’’

With suspect defense, Knox was originally seen, at best, as a late lottery pick because of his “project’’ status, but now there are rumblings he could go as high as No. 7 to Chicago.

“Listen, after the fifth pick, I’m not going to use the restroom anymore,’’ Knox Sr. quipped.

Knox has worked out for every team selecting sixth through 12th. On Tuesday, he is headed back to the Sixers, who select 10th, but only to meet and have dinner with coach/GM Brett Brown before Knox heads to New York for the draft.

ESPN’s “Draft Express” mock draft placed Knox with the Knicks at No. 9 in recent days. ESPN reported the Knicks asked Knox if he had any more workouts scheduled with clubs drafting ahead of them.

Knox Sr. said his son would be used to the scrutiny in New York because of his experience at Kentucky, which garners college basketball’s most media attention.

If point guard Trae Young or Duke center Wendell Carter aren’t available at No. 9, the Knicks could be faced with a sure-thing selection of Villanova small forward Mikal Bridges, 21, or the risk-reward pick of Knox.

On a conference call to promote ESPN’s draft coverage, Bobby Marks, a former Nets executive, said too much attention is paid to individual workouts and favoring 18-year-olds over 21-year-olds. Marks’ contention is going with the more proven commodity even if two years older is fine. Bridges, a redshirt junior, was at Villanova for four years.

“I think you get into that tendency where everyone is looking for that 18- to 19-year-old kid that can be the next Giannis [Antetokounmpo], instead of maybe taking the next — and I’m not saying Mikal Bridges is Draymond Green — where you’re taking a player that has been in school, is maybe a little bit older where maybe the upside is not there,’’ Marks said. “I think that’s where you get in trouble a lot, when you start looking at an age. Maybe an older player that you bypassed based on ‘you know what he is’ instead of a Kevin Knox that maybe you think you do, but are projecting out.”

Knox said after a recent interview he feels he’s “what the NBA wants — a long guy who can really handle the ball and shoot the ball and make multiple decisions.’’

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And this is the reason why we have no players that can even sniff all time top 20.