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Re: Woj bomb: KD + Kawhi discussing options to play together 

Post#81 » by Context » Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:35 pm

Stannis wrote:Clipper though... Better team. Better coaching and management. Kawhi clearly wants LA. And worse case scenario, if they can stretch Gallo to clear their two max slots.

Rich Kleiman better bring his A game

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Re: Woj bomb: KD + Kawhi discussing options to play together 

Post#82 » by DowNY » Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:35 pm

spree8 wrote:Would obviously be amazing but still a long shot. People were calling KD n Kawhi to LAC mad long ago before the whole KD and Kyrie thing blew up. Nothing new about them being interested in playing together.


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That was because Knicks didn’t have room for 2 maxes in January.
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Re: Woj bomb: KD + Kawhi discussing options to play together 

Post#83 » by spree8 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:52 pm

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spree8 wrote:Would obviously be amazing but still a long shot. People were calling KD n Kawhi to LAC mad long ago before the whole KD and Kyrie thing blew up. Nothing new about them being interested in playing together.


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That was because Knicks didn’t have room for 2 maxes in January.



? Everyone knew that was our plan tho... 2 max spots by summer.
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Re: Woj bomb: KD + Kawhi discussing options to play together 

Post#84 » by DowNY » Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:54 pm

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spree8 wrote:Would obviously be amazing but still a long shot. People were calling KD n Kawhi to LAC mad long ago before the whole KD and Kyrie thing blew up. Nothing new about them being interested in playing together.


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That was because Knicks didn’t have room for 2 maxes in January.



? Everyone knew that was our plan tho... 2 max spots by summer.

Our plan? We had to get rid of Timmy & Lee. Was no guarantee it was going to happen.
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Re: Woj bomb: KD + Kawhi discussing options to play together 

Post#85 » by Context » Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:05 pm

Thugger HBC wrote:Kawhi should understand Durant's plight the most since he just went through missing a chunk of time himself. Not saying that would be the reason, but we should be able to relate quite a bit.

you on fire today! didnt cross my mind - this connects them in a way that he wouldn't with Lebron...
we're going to find out how much he likes NY, If Toronto isnt his cup of tea and if going back to LA is really that important...
Oh and if he likes challenges...this is getting good...
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Re: Woj bomb: KD + Kawhi discussing options to play together 

Post#86 » by Context » Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:08 pm

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Thugger HBC wrote:Kawhi should understand Durant's plight the most since he just went through missing a chunk of time himself. Not saying that would be the reason, but we should be able to relate quite a bit.


we could give KL a huge load management year too while KD recovers


I honestly think a team of DSJ/Frank-RJ-Kawhi-Knox-Mitch could make the playoffs in the east. And maybe have KD come back towards the end of the year.

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Re: Woj bomb: KD + Kawhi discussing options to play together 

Post#87 » by spree8 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:08 pm

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That was because Knicks didn’t have room for 2 maxes in January.



? Everyone knew that was our plan tho... 2 max spots by summer.

Our plan? We had to get rid of Timmy & Lee. Was no guarantee it was going to happen.



You don’t plan things unless there’s 100% guarantee you’re gunna be able to do it? Why would any team do anything then?

Look at Morey right now for example, no cap space but trying to land a max player... or look at any other team in the league at any time ever... they plan for a bunch of things even tho there’s no guarantee till happen.

I don’t even see what point you’re trying to make anyway. There wasn’t a lot of talk of them coming to NY, but the point I’m making is that there was talk of them playing together, period. Still lost by your point having anything to do with what I said.
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Re: Woj bomb: KD + Kawhi discussing options to play together 

Post#88 » by Thugger HBC » Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:10 pm

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Thugger HBC wrote:Kawhi should understand Durant's plight the most since he just went through missing a chunk of time himself. Not saying that would be the reason, but we should be able to relate quite a bit.

you on fire today! didnt cross my mind - this connects them in a way that he wouldn't with Lebron...
we're going to find out how much he likes NY, If Toronto isnt his cup of tea and if going back to LA is really that important...
Oh and if he likes challenges...this is getting good...

We'll certainly find out soon for sure. Either way ,we're good. Just getting a meeting shows the team is moving towards respectability.
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Re: Woj bomb: KD + Kawhi discussing options to play together 

Post#89 » by DowNY » Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:18 pm

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? Everyone knew that was our plan tho... 2 max spots by summer.

Our plan? We had to get rid of Timmy & Lee. Was no guarantee it was going to happen.



You don’t plan things unless there’s 100% guarantee you’re gunna be able to do it? Why would any team do anything then?

Look at Morey right now for example, no cap space but trying to land a max player... or look at any other team in the league at any time ever... they plan for a bunch of things even tho there’s no guarantee till happen.

I don’t even see what point you’re trying to make anyway. There wasn’t a lot of talk of them coming to NY, but the point I’m making is that there was talk of them playing together, period. Still lost by your point having anything to do with what I said.

My point is, you bought up KD & Kawhi to the Clippers was talked about long ago. I said that was before Knicks made room. Once the Knicks made room, that narrative of KD+Kawhi (at least to the Clippers) got hushed.
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Re: Woj bomb: KD + Kawhi discussing options to play together 

Post#90 » by spree8 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:26 pm

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DowNY wrote:Our plan? We had to get rid of Timmy & Lee. Was no guarantee it was going to happen.



You don’t plan things unless there’s 100% guarantee you’re gunna be able to do it? Why would any team do anything then?

Look at Morey right now for example, no cap space but trying to land a max player... or look at any other team in the league at any time ever... they plan for a bunch of things even tho there’s no guarantee till happen.

I don’t even see what point you’re trying to make anyway. There wasn’t a lot of talk of them coming to NY, but the point I’m making is that there was talk of them playing together, period. Still lost by your point having anything to do with what I said.

My point is, you bought up KD & Kawhi to the Clippers was talked about long ago. I said that was before Knicks made room. Once the Knicks made room, that narrative of KD+Kawhi (at least to the Clippers) got hushed.


Na man, I brought up they were being talked about going to the Clippers because this isn’t anything new... them playing together. It’s being reported like it’s never been talked about before, and people are kinda acting like that too.

You’re kinda spinning that into a whole other debate that I’m not even trying to have lol. But you saying the Knicks weren’t planning on having 2 spots is false. And them playing in LAC isn’t hushed... it’s 1 of only 2 options they’d have to do that in... not sure why you’re saying that.
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Re: Woj bomb: KD + Kawhi discussing options to play together 

Post#91 » by J9Starks3 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:52 pm

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J9Starks3 wrote:I mean I doubt it happens here, but this building would be electric and we’d be set up for a long time with RJ and Mitch getting into their primes as KD and Kawhi start to exit theirs.... what kind of noise could DSJ, RJ, Kawhi, Vonleh, Mitch make next year while we wait for KD?


who?

:lol: :lol: -that "who" was perfect! we would be in the big leagues at that point...Vonleh can go suck em ________ dont want to
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We sign KD/Kawhi - there’s not a lot remaining... Randle isnt coming here for the vet minimum...
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Re: Woj bomb: KD + Kawhi discussing options to play together 

Post#92 » by matchman » Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:43 am

Being a Knick fan for more than twenty years, I won't hold my breath this time. That isn't our kind of luck.

P.S. I appreciate ITGM and 2010 for that dream, but I just dare not this time. :lol:
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Re: Woj bomb: KD + Kawhi discussing options to play together 

Post#93 » by Jeff Van Gully » Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:47 am

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who?

:lol: :lol: -that "who" was perfect! we would be in the big leagues at that point...Vonleh can go suck em ________ dont want to
finish dat Gully- too vicious fe dem :lol:


We sign KD/Kawhi - there’s not a lot remaining... Randle isnt coming here for the vet minimum...


i hear that. i get it.

i don't know how cheap vonleh will go, and i am not going to assume him a knick. he'll have options.
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Re: Woj bomb: KD + Kawhi discussing options to play together 

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Re: Woj bomb: KD + Kawhi discussing options to play together 

Post#95 » by Jeffrey » Sun Jun 30, 2019 4:01 am

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J9Starks3 wrote:
Context wrote: :lol: :lol: -that "who" was perfect! we would be in the big leagues at that point...Vonleh can go suck em ________ dont want to
finish dat Gully- too vicious fe dem :lol:


We sign KD/Kawhi - there’s not a lot remaining... Randle isnt coming here for the vet minimum...


i hear that. i get it.

i don't know how cheap vonleh will go, and i am not going to assume him a knick. he'll have options.


It will be like the summer of 2016, lots of teams will have cap space.
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Re: Woj bomb: KD + Kawhi discussing options to play together 

Post#96 » by Stannis » Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:14 am

From the players perspective, it would be best to wait till 2020. That's if they want to go to the Knicks.

KD does his S & T and goes to the Knicks during the trade deadline. KL plays one more year for Toronto. That way he doesn't have to play on a crappy team while KD rehabs. So he still gets a chance at another ring basically.

The issue with is that rookies don't play for free. We will have RJ, probably another lotto pick contract, and other rookies equaling probably 15 million at least. There won't be enough space for two max slots in 2020.

This is why I think if KD and KL want to play with each other... Clippers are the best choice. They can each go there now. KL can compete there. KD will redshirt for a year. But he might be able to redeem himself if KL and the Clipper lose to the Lakers.
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Re: Woj bomb: KD + Kawhi discussing options to play together 

Post#97 » by GONYK » Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:27 am

Stannis wrote:From the players perspective, it would be best to wait till 2020. That's if they want to go to the Knicks.

KD does his S & T and goes to the Knicks during the trade deadline. KL plays one more year for Toronto. That way he doesn't have to play on a crappy team while KD rehabs. So he still gets a chance at another ring basically.

The issue with is that rookies don't play for free. We will have RJ, probably another lotto pick contract, and other rookies equaling probably 15 million at least. There won't be enough space for two max slots in 2020.

This is why I think if KD and KL want to play with each other... Clippers are the best choice. They can each go there now. KL can compete there. KD will redshirt for a year. But he might be able to redeem himself if KL and the Clipper lose to the Lakers.


I don't see how the Clippers are a better choice than the Knicks. If they signed both Kawhi and KD, then that means they basically traded their whole team away to free up the space.

So if KD is rehabbing for a year, then Kawhi isn't competing for anything. Unless you believe that Kawhi, Lou Williams, and Harrell + vet mins are a championship level team.
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Re: Woj bomb: KD + Kawhi discussing options to play together 

Post#98 » by Stannis » Sun Jun 30, 2019 7:05 am

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Stannis wrote:From the players perspective, it would be best to wait till 2020. That's if they want to go to the Knicks.

KD does his S & T and goes to the Knicks during the trade deadline. KL plays one more year for Toronto. That way he doesn't have to play on a crappy team while KD rehabs. So he still gets a chance at another ring basically.

The issue with is that rookies don't play for free. We will have RJ, probably another lotto pick contract, and other rookies equaling probably 15 million at least. There won't be enough space for two max slots in 2020.

This is why I think if KD and KL want to play with each other... Clippers are the best choice. They can each go there now. KL can compete there. KD will redshirt for a year. But he might be able to redeem himself if KL and the Clipper lose to the Lakers.


I don't see how the Clippers are a better choice than the Knicks. If they signed both Kawhi and KD, then that means they basically traded their whole team away to free up the space.

So if KD is rehabbing for a year, then Kawhi isn't competing for anything. Unless you believe that Kawhi, Lou Williams, and Harrell + vet mins are a championship level team.


We can't look away at the fact that Kawhi wants LA. That's his home. And he's already demanded a trade there. These rumors are basically saying that Durant might be trying to get him to NY. But it can go the other way as well. If they both want this now, I think Kawhi has a bigger say since he will be the one actually playing the first year. So for Kawhi personally, LA is the better choice for happiness.

As far as basketball, there are still a step ahead than the Knicks. Better coach too, imo. And they multiple picks come back to them thanks to the Harris trade. Maybe not a championship now, but definitely in year 2 if they get KL and KD.

Knicks are still at the very beginning with their rebuild. No experience. Still question marks on Fiz's coaching abilities.

And Kawhi would essentially be joining Durant's cause even though he'll be benched for 1 full year.
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Re: Woj bomb: KD + Kawhi discussing options to play together 

Post#99 » by GONYK » Sun Jun 30, 2019 7:19 am

Stannis wrote:
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Stannis wrote:From the players perspective, it would be best to wait till 2020. That's if they want to go to the Knicks.

KD does his S & T and goes to the Knicks during the trade deadline. KL plays one more year for Toronto. That way he doesn't have to play on a crappy team while KD rehabs. So he still gets a chance at another ring basically.

The issue with is that rookies don't play for free. We will have RJ, probably another lotto pick contract, and other rookies equaling probably 15 million at least. There won't be enough space for two max slots in 2020.

This is why I think if KD and KL want to play with each other... Clippers are the best choice. They can each go there now. KL can compete there. KD will redshirt for a year. But he might be able to redeem himself if KL and the Clipper lose to the Lakers.


I don't see how the Clippers are a better choice than the Knicks. If they signed both Kawhi and KD, then that means they basically traded their whole team away to free up the space.

So if KD is rehabbing for a year, then Kawhi isn't competing for anything. Unless you believe that Kawhi, Lou Williams, and Harrell + vet mins are a championship level team.


We can't look away at the fact that Kawhi wants LA. That's his home. And he's already demanded a trade there. These rumors are basically saying that Durant might be trying to get him to NY. But it can go the other way as well. If they both want this now, I think Kawhi has a bigger say since he will be the one actually playing the first year. So for Kawhi personally, LA is the better choice for happiness.


This explains why Kawhi would go there. It doesn't address why KD would be interested. It certainly doesn't address why he would leave GSW at all if he wants to stay in Cali.

As far as basketball, there are still a step ahead than the Knicks. Better coach too, imo. And they multiple picks come back to them thanks to the Harris trade. Maybe not a championship now, but definitely in year 2 if they get KL and KD.

Knicks are still at the very beginning with their rebuild. No experience. Still question marks on Fiz's coaching abilities.


I still don't understand how you are figuring that they are definitely a championship team in year 2 with KL and KD if they have traded their whole team to get KL and KD. That puts them on the exact same footing as the Knicks. They would just be older players instead of younger players.

They have picks coming? We have picks coming too.

Fiz vs Rivers is legitimate, but Doc has mostly underachieved as the Clippers coach.

And Kawhi would essentially be joining Durant's cause even though he'll be benched for 1 full year.


The reverse is also true. Why would KD be so eager to sign up for Kawhi's cause?
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Re: Woj bomb: KD + Kawhi discussing options to play together 

Post#100 » by spree2kawhi » Sun Jun 30, 2019 7:27 am

It was cool playing this game. Too bad it won't happen.

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