Trades and Transactions thread - To the offseason!

[thebuzzardman]

bring back van gundy. its a smart move. it'll endear you to most of the fanbase right away.

i think a move should be made for chris paul too. randle, dsj or frank and the la pick i think is a fair offer.
cp3 is the kinda of guy who can stabilize your franchise. you can call him a loser or chit on him for not having won anything but the dude understands the game. whatever "it" is, he has it. there's a pretty realistic chance that okc gets home court in the first round.

i know its a crazy contract but a) you're not gonna find a better player to sign with you this summer or next(giannis isn't coming. stop it, get some help.) and its only two years. take a point guard in the top 10 this year and let cp3 school him. 2 years of cp3 at this point in his career could do a helluva lot for the culture here. let him play alongside the young guys. maybe he can elevate rj like he elevated gilgeous-alexander. rj seems like a hard worker and a sponge.

yea, i think it's a great idea. flame away.

I'll go first.
Isiah, is that you?

[the_antz_nest]

bring back van gundy. its a smart move. it'll endear you to most of the fanbase right away.

i think a move should be made for chris paul too. randle, dsj or frank and the la pick i think is a fair offer.
cp3 is the kinda of guy who can stabilize your franchise. you can call him a loser or chit on him for not having won anything but the dude understands the game. whatever "it" is, he has it. there's a pretty realistic chance that okc gets home court in the first round.

i know its a crazy contract but a) you're not gonna find a better player to sign with you this summer or next(giannis isn't coming. stop it, get some help.) and its only two years. take a point guard in the top 10 this year and let cp3 school him. 2 years of cp3 at this point in his career could do a helluva lot for the culture here. let him play alongside the young guys. maybe he can elevate rj like he elevated gilgeous-alexander. rj seems like a hard worker and a sponge.

yea, i think it's a great idea. flame away.

It’s a sound idea. I’m sure some would disagree.
I like it especially the stability to our franchise he would bring off the court.
However I believe thunder just don’t need to or want to. No matter how decent the salary relief is.
We would have to give a wing also as that’s what they need then we would question the price it would take...

[thebuzzardman]

Can JVG adjust to the faster paced offense and different kind of defense in today's game?

I'd assume that's possible, but figured I'd put it out there.

[nedleeds]

Can JVG adjust to the faster paced offense and different kind of defense in today's game?

I'd assume that's possible, but figured I'd put it out there.

Not sure, but unlike most broadcasters he still coaches at least. He volunteers with the USA basketball and coaches the USA World Cup Qualifying Team, which is mostly G Leaguers. So he's coaching the modern international game at least. Those teams have more talent than the Knicks so that would be a step back.

[seren]

Coaches don’t become obsolete when playing styles change. Thibs still took Minny to the playoffs with minus defenders. JVG is very much coaching and following the game on a daily basis. I have no issue either of them coaching. I don’t think coaching is ever the big issue in New York. It is priorities of FO and coaching staff aligning and roster construction

[dakomish23]

Coaches don’t become obsolete when playing styles change. Thibs still took Minny to the playoffs with minus defenders. JVG is very much coaching and following the game on a daily basis. I have no issue either of them coaching. I don’t think coaching is ever the big issue in New York. It is priorities of FO and coaching staff aligning and roster construction

Yep it’s the roster and how they use it

[HarthorneWingo]

I’d like to trade Leon Rose for Spencer Pearlman.

[nedleeds]

Coaches don’t become obsolete when playing styles change. Thibs still took Minny to the playoffs with minus defenders. JVG is very much coaching and following the game on a daily basis. I have no issue either of them coaching. I don’t think coaching is ever the big issue in New York. It is priorities of FO and coaching staff aligning and roster construction

Yep it’s the roster and how they use it

Anybody think Thibs would play the young players? Lol. No **** chance. Maybe Frank, he's a French Kirk Heinrich.

[seren]

Coaches don’t become obsolete when playing styles change. Thibs still took Minny to the playoffs with minus defenders. JVG is very much coaching and following the game on a daily basis. I have no issue either of them coaching. I don’t think coaching is ever the big issue in New York. It is priorities of FO and coaching staff aligning and roster construction

Yep it’s the roster and how they use it

Anybody think Thibs would play the young players? Lol. No **** chance. Maybe Frank, he's a French Kirk Heinrich.

I have absolutely no doubt Mitchell and Frank would get significant minutes. Dotson would have if he is still on the squad. RJ sure will. Not so confident with Knox.

[Knicksfan1992]

I’d like to trade Leon Rose for Spencer Pearlman.

With the number 4 pick in the draft the New York Knicks select Aaron Nesmith from Vanderbilt

[nedleeds]

Yep it’s the roster and how they use it

Anybody think Thibs would play the young players? Lol. No **** chance. Maybe Frank, he's a French Kirk Heinrich.

I have absolutely no doubt Mitchell and Frank would get significant minutes. Dotson would have if he is still on the squad. RJ sure will. Not so confident with Knox.

Imagine Portis under Thibs. Or Randle with his **** finger up his nose on every rotation.

[dakomish23]

Coaches don’t become obsolete when playing styles change. Thibs still took Minny to the playoffs with minus defenders. JVG is very much coaching and following the game on a daily basis. I have no issue either of them coaching. I don’t think coaching is ever the big issue in New York. It is priorities of FO and coaching staff aligning and roster construction

Yep it’s the roster and how they use it

Anybody think Thibs would play the young players? Lol. No **** chance. Maybe Frank, he's a French Kirk Heinrich.

He’s low key a PG whisperer. Makes mediocre PGs look a lot better than they are. Usually a score first model though.

[Clyde Ward]

Denver would have been an interesting trade partner at the deadline:

Beasley
Hernangomez
Harris
Grant
Morris

aside from the obvious "off limits" pieces from den (jokic, MPJr, Murray)

i would have really liked us to try to grab Monte Morris -

he reminds me of a not broken/ higher IQ DSjr with a better shot.

[Clyde Ward]

bring back van gundy. its a smart move. it'll endear you to most of the fanbase right away.

i think a move should be made for chris paul too. randle, dsj or frank and the la pick i think is a fair offer.
cp3 is the kinda of guy who can stabilize your franchise. you can call him a loser or chit on him for not having won anything but the dude understands the game. whatever "it" is, he has it. there's a pretty realistic chance that okc gets home court in the first round.

i know its a crazy contract but a) you're not gonna find a better player to sign with you this summer or next(giannis isn't coming. stop it, get some help.) and its only two years. take a point guard in the top 10 this year and let cp3 school him. 2 years of cp3 at this point in his career could do a helluva lot for the culture here. let him play alongside the young guys. maybe he can elevate rj like he elevated gilgeous-alexander. rj seems like a hard worker and a sponge.

yea, i think it's a great idea. flame away.

It’s a sound idea. I’m sure some would disagree.
I like it especially the stability to our franchise he would bring off the court.
However I believe thunder just don’t need to or want to. No matter how decent the salary relief is.
We would have to give a wing also as that’s what they need then we would question the price it would take...

I would gladly include Knox in a deal for CP3 if it meant keeping frank. he's been absolute trash this year and last (i know he's still super young) but Frank as the 2 next to CP3 would be a strong backcourt (defensively / playmaking).

oddly - i think all of Knox, Frank, Dotson, Iggy, Mitch, etc would learn alot playing under a very high IQ PG that still has atleast a few more years left.

[GONYK]

Coaches don’t become obsolete when playing styles change. Thibs still took Minny to the playoffs with minus defenders. JVG is very much coaching and following the game on a daily basis. I have no issue either of them coaching. I don’t think coaching is ever the big issue in New York. It is priorities of FO and coaching staff aligning and roster construction

Yep it’s the roster and how they use it

That's coaching, no?

[dakomish23]

Coaches don’t become obsolete when playing styles change. Thibs still took Minny to the playoffs with minus defenders. JVG is very much coaching and following the game on a daily basis. I have no issue either of them coaching. I don’t think coaching is ever the big issue in New York. It is priorities of FO and coaching staff aligning and roster construction

Yep it’s the roster and how they use it

That's coaching, no?

Coaching can be and seems to be influenced by the FO directives.

[Grover]

Though the dysfunction of the organization will continue under the reign of Dolan, I’m hoping Rose has enough understanding of the salary cap not to buy out Ellington’s valuable contract. He can be traded prior to his $1m buyout after the season with the acquiring team able to save $7m off of next year’s salary commitments immediately and that can have extraordinary value. Several teams burned salary cap space for next season at the deadline. Whether Paul, Conley or another target with a contract for at least next season, a package of a combination of Portis, Gibson, Payton, Ellington and Bullock could save a team a ton of salary if they have eyes on getting out of the tax or simply giving themselves greater flexibility in free agency. It’s $44m+ versus the $5m in combined buyouts and the Knick’s are the only team with that kind of leverage.

[newyorker4ever]

I know Ingram has been mentioned somewhat so here’s a solid debate topic

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Ingram
Tatum
Simmons

Simmons can get rendered useless when things get tight in the playoffs while I can see Ingram and Tatum being able to create for themselves and for others.

Ingram gets the edge over Tatum for his versatility in being able to play from 1-4. His wingspan also helps.

I love and wish we could get all 3 but no way can anyone not have Tatum as the #1 on that list. Two way player that is bad at nothing.

My only debate is on who would 2 and 3. If Simmons could shoot he'd be a easy #2 and might even challenge for #1 depending on how good he could shoot.

[newyorker4ever]

Can JVG adjust to the faster paced offense and different kind of defense in today's game?

I'd assume that's possible, but figured I'd put it out there.

I love JVG and have wanted him brought back every year the Knicks were looking for their next HC hiring but 14 years out of the coaching game is a lot. At least he's still been around it calling the games so although he's not coaching he's still right around the game to see how teams are playing now. It would worry me until he proved me wrong and showed me he can coach at this time but if he kept M.Miller and filled out the rest of his bench with people that have been on benches and not out of the game then i'd be much less worried. The only hire i'd be good with him making that's been out of the game is if he brought Thibs back with him. I want a coaching group that coaches like they do in Miami and like Budenholzer does in Milwaukee. I want two way players everywhere on the court. Of course no way to have the top two way players everywhere and you don't have to but most of that team need to show the BBIQ and effort to play defense.

[thebuzzardman]

Can JVG adjust to the faster paced offense and different kind of defense in today's game?

I'd assume that's possible, but figured I'd put it out there.

I love JVG and have wanted him brought back every year the Knicks were looking for their next HC hiring but 14 years out of the coaching game is a lot. At least he's still been around it calling the games so although he's not coaching he's still right around the game to see how teams are playing now. It would worry me until he proved me wrong and showed me he can coach at this time but if he kept M.Miller and filled out the rest of his bench with people that have been on benches and not out of the game then i'd be much less worried. The only hire i'd be good with him making that's been out of the game is if he brought Thibs back with him. I want a coaching group that coaches like they do in Miami and like Budenholzer does in Milwaukee. I want two way players everywhere on the court. Of course no way to have the top two way players everywhere and you don't have to but most of that team need to show the BBIQ and effort to play defense.

See my post in the Leon Rose topic and JVG and Thibs. While on paper it would be great with Thibs as assistant, I doubt Thibs ego stands for being an assistant to JVG. Just a hunch. Could be wrong. Pure speculation.