OT: Ahmaud Arbery murdered in Georgia - DA Indicted!!! (Update p. 11))

[RHODEY]

Ok so then what are we saying here? The kid was doomed 100% no matter what? You don’t think there’s even a 1% chance there are decent cops that would have responded and defused the situation?

Even at a 1% chance, I’m taking it over 100% chance at getting killed for trying to fight them off. I’m running and calling the cops which has at least a chance at me surviving.

All I said was I wish the kid ran and called for help instead of facing certain doom. I get why he did it, but I think it would’ve been better to book outta there.

Here's the thing Spree, don't you think its strange how the conversation has turned toward what the victim should or shouldn't have done , under a situation of extreme duress? If anybody's actions /motivations should be put under the microscope, it should be the shooters.

Yea I’m not tryin to even have the convo about how he reacted... I was just shocked by what I saw in the video, and like with any horror movie where the good guy makes the wrong turn into the room with the killer, you’re like “fuq man, I wish they went the other way”... only this was real life and I get caught up in thinkin how this kid could still be alive if things went differently. That’s all I was sayin... I’ve already mentioned how I don’t understand why this isn’t an open n shut case of cold blooded murder.

This racism thing has to stop. This is recurring pattern:

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So the question that need to be asked is who are the murderous racists and how do we neutralize them before they harm more innocent people?

We may need to rely on the non racists that are in close proximity to them to rat them out. Otherwise Blacks will have to assume they are all racists and act according. Actually some of us already do that.

[Oscirus]

As was already demonstrated, want this to stop? Only way to do so is black people need to start arming themselves legally. Once you start shooting back at these ****, they''ll learn real quick. **** are now hunting us down like deer for the cost of lawyer fees.

[K_ick_God]

The prosecutor's letter doesn't even mention the possibility that the two gunmen would call for help or see if he's alive. They roll him over to look for a gun. No notion of saving his life. Sometimes it's what is not said that is even worse, if possible, than saying there's no criminal liability because he pushed the gun.

Two black men chase a white guy, shoot him and then that's sort of the end of it. The white guy tried not to get killed so it's all good, whatever is done is done. No charges for two-plus months. The black men are living free and without a thing done. Would literally never happen, not in any state.

I'm separately horrified that this happened two months ago. That's a long time. I don't know when this first broke as a news story though.

[RHODEY]

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[Jeffrey]

Option 1 - run away from "citizen's arrest" ... therefore he is a guilty black man!

Option 2 - wrestle with the gunmen .... look at that man fighting the non-aggressor gunmen that just wanted to have a nice chat with him.

[Fat Kat]

Ok so then what are we saying here? The kid was doomed 100% no matter what? You don’t think there’s even a 1% chance there are decent cops that would have responded and defused the situation?

Even at a 1% chance, I’m taking it over 100% chance at getting killed for trying to fight them off. I’m running and calling the cops which has at least a chance at me surviving.

All I said was I wish the kid ran and called for help instead of facing certain doom. I get why he did it, but I think it would’ve been better to book outta there.

Here's the thing Spree, don't you think its strange how the conversation has turned toward what the victim should or shouldn't have done , under a situation of extreme duress? If anybody's actions /motivations should be put under the microscope, it should be the shooters.

Yea I’m not tryin to even have the convo about how he reacted... I was just shocked by what I saw in the video, and like with any horror movie where the good guy makes the wrong turn into the room with the killer, you’re like “fuq man, I wish they went the other way”... only this was real life and I get caught up in thinkin how this kid could still be alive if things went differently. That’s all I was sayin... I’ve already mentioned how I don’t understand why this isn’t an open n shut case of cold blooded murder.

Yet that is exactly the conversation you’re having. Why didn’t he just.....

He probably figured that he couldn’t outrun a damn bullet. That’s why he tried to disarm the attacker. Enough of the bullchit.

[Fat Kat]

Option 1 - run away from "citizen's arrest" ... therefore he is a guilty black man!

Option 2 - wrestle with the gunmen .... look at that man fighting the non-aggressor gunmen that just wanted to have a nice chat with him.

Yep. The victim blaming gets more and more subtle, but it’s ever-present.

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[spree8]

Here's the thing Spree, don't you think its strange how the conversation has turned toward what the victim should or shouldn't have done , under a situation of extreme duress? If anybody's actions /motivations should be put under the microscope, it should be the shooters.

Yea I’m not tryin to even have the convo about how he reacted... I was just shocked by what I saw in the video, and like with any horror movie where the good guy makes the wrong turn into the room with the killer, you’re like “fuq man, I wish they went the other way”... only this was real life and I get caught up in thinkin how this kid could still be alive if things went differently. That’s all I was sayin... I’ve already mentioned how I don’t understand why this isn’t an open n shut case of cold blooded murder.

Yet that is exactly the conversation you’re having. Why didn’t he just.....

He probably figured that he couldn’t outrun a damn bullet. That’s why he tried to disarm the attacker. Enough of the bullchit.

I’m not having this discussion anymore with people who’re too damn dumb to get what I said. I wasn’t having that conversation until people like you created it by starting to cry and nitpick something so trivial. People like you are the reason mankind is going to hell in a hand basket lol. Seriously dude... pick your battles more wisely instead of crying over stupid shyt like this.

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And no grand jury bullchit. Now we need to see these suckas go to jail for their COVID-19 treatments which will be part of their prison rehab.

[HarthorneWingo]

Option 1 - run away from "citizen's arrest" ... therefore he is a guilty black man!

Option 2 - wrestle with the gunmen .... look at that man fighting the non-aggressor gunmen that just wanted to have a nice chat with him.

Yep. The victim blaming gets more and more subtle, but it’s ever-present.

I’ll spell it out simply for everyone. Once the McMichaels got in their pickup with their guns and chased after Arbery, that’s it. Game over.

[spree8]

“Damn, I wish the kid ran away to preserve a chance at survival instead of trying to fight a bunch of guys with guns”


“Zomg you’re victim blaming! How dare you!”


Seriously, stfu and grow some brain cells... fuq’n idiots on the internet man. I swear

[Pointgod]

Ok so then what are we saying here? The kid was doomed 100% no matter what? You don’t think there’s even a 1% chance there are decent cops that would have responded and defused the situation?

Even at a 1% chance, I’m taking it over 100% chance at getting killed for trying to fight them off. I’m running and calling the cops which has at least a chance at me surviving.

All I said was I wish the kid ran and called for help instead of facing certain doom. I get why he did it, but I think it would’ve been better to book outta there.

The man has every right to defend himself from two psychopaths brandishing shotguns. This is 100% the fault of these two murderers not the innocent party.

Jesus... Fuqing... Christ... are you illiterate?

Obviously he had the right to defend himself. Nobody is questioning that, but to even try when you have virtually zero chance to win versus running away and calling the cops? That seems like the better move.

He’s young and athletic so I’m sure he could’ve evaded them on foot hopping a fence or two while calling 911. Just seemed like the best course of action instead of what he chose. It’s a shame that he even had to make that decision tho.

I don’t see how this isn’t an open n shut murder case.

Where the fuq did I say that it was his “fault”? Please, enlighten me?

Naw I can read fine and I get what you’re trying to say but it’s ultimately a pointless exercise that draws away from the real issue.

[spree8]

The man has every right to defend himself from two psychopaths brandishing shotguns. This is 100% the fault of these two murderers not the innocent party.

Jesus... Fuqing... Christ... are you illiterate?

Obviously he had the right to defend himself. Nobody is questioning that, but to even try when you have virtually zero chance to win versus running away and calling the cops? That seems like the better move.

He’s young and athletic so I’m sure he could’ve evaded them on foot hopping a fence or two while calling 911. Just seemed like the best course of action instead of what he chose. It’s a shame that he even had to make that decision tho.

I don’t see how this isn’t an open n shut murder case.

Where the fuq did I say that it was his “fault”? Please, enlighten me?

Naw I can read fine and I get what you’re trying to say but it’s ultimately a pointless exercise that draws away from the real issue.

If you get what I’m sayin then don’t twist or try to spin my words. I asked a completely logical question about his thought process ... not blaming him for his decision like some of you hardcore crazies are insinuating. You thinking it’s a pointless “exercise”... which was simply just a question... doesn’t mean it is... and it shouldn’t draw away from the real issue at all unless you make it a bigger deal than it is... which you did.

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[HarthorneWingo]

“Damn, I wish the kid ran away to preserve a chance at survival instead of trying to fight a bunch of guys with guns”


“Zomg you’re victim blaming! How dare you!”


Seriously, stfu and grow some brain cells... fuq’n idiots on the internet man. I swear

This is a sensitive subject for many especially those who have dealt with police brutality and is gut-retching crime.

Having said that, from a strictly scientific perspective, police will tell people who are faced with a gun-toting assailant that their best chance is to run away.

I once watched a seminar on PBS-TV given by a former Chicago police detective. Bittenbinder was his name. He had a walrus mustache. He said that the chance of him the criminal of actually pulling the trigger is 50/50. Then the chance of actually hitting you at 50/50. Then the chance of killing you at 50/50.

So his point is that by running away you’ve may reduce your chances of getting killed from 100% to 12.5%.

But that’s in a vacuum and you have have planned that ahead of time most likely after having already been a victim who was lucky enough to escape unharmed.

I would not expect a most people to have that in their mind while going out for a nice relaxing jog.

So there is truth to what you say, but this is the wrong time to push that point.

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Good I hope they put those pieces of shut under the jail. But knowing America and it’s love affair with whiteness they’ll either be found not guilty or there will be a hung jury.

[RHODEY]

I get that this is a sensitive but let's go easy spree8. He's disgusted just like the rest of us and was just hoping Ahmoud could have avoided his murder. Unfortunately he couldn't....

[spree8]

“Damn, I wish the kid ran away to preserve a chance at survival instead of trying to fight a bunch of guys with guns”


“Zomg you’re victim blaming! How dare you!”


Seriously, stfu and grow some brain cells... fuq’n idiots on the internet man. I swear

This is a sensitive subject for many especially those who have dealt with police brutality and is gut-retching crime.

Having said that, from a strictly scientific perspective, police will tell people who are faced with a gun-toting assailant that their best chance is to run away.

I once watched a seminar on PBS-TV given by a former Chicago police detective. Bittenbinder was his name. He had a walrus mustache. He said that the chance of him the criminal of actually pulling the trigger is 50/50. Then the chance of actually hitting you at 50/50. Then the chance of killing you at 50/50.

So his point is that by running away you’ve probably reduced your chances of getting killed from 100% to 12.5%.

But that’s in a vacuum and you have have planned that ahead of time most likely after having already been a victim who was lucky enough to escape unharmed.

I would not expect a most people to have that in their mind while going out for a nice relaxing jog.

So there is truth to what you say, but this is the wrong time to push that point.

Yea the thing is tho that I didn’t push the point... 1 poster made me defend it, then another, and another, and so on to where I’m just repeating myself in these responses. I’m like wtf did I even do lol. Ask a logical question? Kinda pathetic to try to crucify someone for that... in this day n age when people wanna be taken seriously on important issues, there’s way too much whining and attacking the same side for dumb stuff like that... people should save their energy for the real villains.

You can’t really censor people for that either tho. If people bring some analytical thought to the topic in that regard, who knows if someone might be in a similar situation one day and maybe remember having that conversation and take a different action themselves that might turn out better for them?

Just sayin that this outrage culture needs to chill the hell out a bit. People try too hard to be offended.

[prophet_of_rage]

I'd rather cut to the chase and call them murderous racist individuals. Why? Because words are important. If you are going to fix a problem, it needs to be accurately identified first. The problem isnt "cops" or "the media" and it isn't about being "deranged", it's racism.

BTW watching that video made me absolutely sick to my stomach...like there was nothing dude could have done..and nothing he could have done to warrant getting shot down like a defenseless dog.. Cowardly racist pieces of ****

They are obviously racist. But they are cowards and murderers first. We pass people who are racists everyday in the supermarket. I consider abject racism to be a form of derangement. But I don't think it changes the severity of a cold blooded murder.

I'm Colombian and people hate me for that, but murder is murder. The motive is hate. Not passion or self defense. These two men hated the victim and premeditation seems obvious from that video. If it makes you more mad at these cowards that's justifiable. But saying you'll 'fix' racism by punishing these pieces of **** harder is laughable.

There are lessons from history and all around the world that you can't legislate what's in peoples heart, white people hating black people, black people hating white people, Mexicans hating Colombians, Colombians hating Mexicans, Jews hating Arabs, Arabs hating Jews, Hutu hating Tutsi. They should die in a chair, do you want to torture them first? If they were two black men who ambushed this poor guy for more base reasons (he insulted them, or threatened them, or owed them money, or they were just looking to rob him) you would punish them less?

So I guess we should go back to separate but equal?

Please!

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