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Immanuel Quickley to the Knicks @ 25

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Re: Immanuel Quickley to the Knicks @ 25 

Post#81 » by DrCoach » Thu Nov 19, 2020 1:04 pm

FreeSpiritNY wrote:Daniel Oturu was a good pick but quickly does not look good. It looks like a lot of his shots went in because of pure luck. I would have preferred cassius winston. Someone who has proven year after year can play and has great court vision or Grant Riller with a bought pick.



43% 3pt and 93%FT isnt luck
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Re: Immanuel Quickley to the Knicks @ 25 

Post#82 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Nov 19, 2020 1:06 pm

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https://empiresportsmedia.com/new-york-knicks/knicks-draft-watch-john-calipari-warns-nba-teams-not-to-sleep-on-immanuel-quickley/

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The New York Knicks have met Kentucky Wildcat Immanuel Quickley twice ahead of the 2020 NBA Draft.
Devin Booker and Tyler Herro were two of the most recent former University of Kentucky guards who got overlooked in the NBA Draft.

Immanuel Quickley is poised to be the next sleeper in the Draft from Hall of Fame coach John Calipari’s program.



“Immanuel Quickley was the Player of the Year in our league. He’s right up there with the hardest workers spending the most time in the gym, most committed players that I’ve ever had,” Calipari told Empire Sports Media via Zoom call. “You better give him a second, third, or fourth look before you pass on him because he’s another one.”

Booker and Herro were selected 13th overall in the 2015 and 2019 NBA Draft, respectively. And they have both outplayed their draft position.

With Herro’s rousing rookie season still fresh in league scouts and executives’ minds, the sweet-shooting Quickley has seen his draft stock rise with more and more teams showing strong interest recently.

According to his trainer and former AAU coach Jide Sodipo, Quickley has talked to almost all NBA teams except the Portland Trail Blazers.

And of the 29 teams, Quickley has already interviewed twice with the Knicks, Los Angeles Lakers, Oklahoma City Thunder, Utah Jazz, Milwaukee Bucks, Detroit Pistons, and the Miami Heat.

“They were trying to find out more about his character. Not only about basketball. What kind of a young man he is,” Sodipo told Empire Sports Media over the phone. “And as far as the Knicks are concerned, I think they know more about him more than anybody team in the NBA.”

Of course, the Knicks have former Kentucky lead assistant and chief recruiter Kenny Payne in their fold. Payne has the intel that might help persuade the Knicks front office to take a gamble on Quickley’s potential.

Quickley could be in play for the Knicks’ 27th or even 38th pick if he’s still on board. But Sodipo has a firm belief that his ward won’t last past the first round.

In most scouting reports, Quickly is a scoring guard with a knack for hitting the outside shot. It’s the same type of profile that has made Herro a riser in last year’s NBA Draft.

“He (Immanuel) spaces the court because he’s making threes. It’s what everybody knows. It’s where the league is going right now? You better be able to make threes. If you can’t, you better have some unbelievable talent; you better have ESP or something like that if you can’t shoot. The game has changed,” Calipari said.

Quickley further cemented his status as a reliable scorer when he ended his collegiate career with 20 consecutive double-digit scoring games — the longest streak by a Wildcat since Malik Monk (30) in 2016-17. On top of that, he has also hit at least one three-pointer in his last 11 games, including a career-high eight on his way to a 30-point performance in a 69-60 win against Texas A&M last February.

Quickley has the shooting skill to carve out a role in the modern NBA. But he is more than just a shooter, according to Sodipo.

“People don’t understand that he was a pass-first point guard all of his life. He loves to share the ball and bring out the best in his teammates. But you know, when you go to a school like Kentucky, you have to sacrifice,” Sodipo explained. “Sometimes, you have to play a role. That’s what’s asked of you. What he did was he made the most out of it.”

To better understand and appreciate Quickley, you have to look at the roster makeup of the Wildcats.

During Quickley’s freshman year, Kentucky had a crowded backcourt with Hagans, Herro, and Quade Green.

Then in his sophomore year, Tyrese Maxey came in. Both Maxey (29.2 percent) and Hagans (25.8 percent) didn’t shoot well from the outside, and Quickley quickly jumped into the opportunity.

“Last year we went to three guards. I wasn’t doing that early in the year, but as the year went on, I just said, ‘Immanuel Quickley, he needs to be starting.’ That means somebody else couldn’t start. [Quickley] ended up being Player of the Year in our league, but he trusted me to figure it out.” Calipari said.

After averaging just 5.2 points per game as a freshman, Quickley led the Wildcats in scoring (16.1 ppg), made 3-pointers (62), 3-point percentage (.428), free throws made (144), attempted (156), and free throw percentage (.923) during as a sophomore to become the fifth SEC Player of the Year under Calipari.

That’s part of the myth surrounding former Wildcats who have exploded in the NBA. Because Calipari’s program has been perennially loaded with talent, players like Booker, Herro, Bam Adebayo, and now Quickley have been victims of circumstances that, in a way, held their game back.

That’s one of the biggest reasons why Quickley has the “Sleeper” tag.

“He brings more to the game than just his shooting. You’ve only seen around 50 or 60 percent of his game [in college], I can tell you. And that’s gonna surprise a lot of people,” Sodipo said.


Quickley can get hot quickly on offense. He could find a role similar to what Jamal Crawford and Lou Williams have perfected in their respective long NBA careers — offensive spark off the bench.

Defensively, Quickley has the length (6’9 and 3/4″ wingspan from his Draft Combine measurement last week) and the quickness to be a disruptor.

If there’s anyone who knows Quickley’s game in and out, it’s Sodipo, who’s been coaching Quickley since 2015.

“He can handle the ball. He’s a true point guard that can score. He has a great basketball IQ. He’s great in pick and roll. He’s a great defender and can rebound, and that’s his game that people don’t know unless you really watch his game and go back to his freshman year, his high school years,” Sodipo said.

Quickley was a decorated high school player and was one of the nation’s top point guards. He was a McDonald’s All-American and the 10th best prospect by Rivals.com and 12th by ESPN coming out of high school in 2017.

In his sophomore year, he hit a game-winning three-pointer at the buzzer to lead The John Carroll School Patriots to a 51–50 win over Mount Saint Joseph High School in the Baltimore Catholic League championship. He earned All-Metro Player of the Year recognition.

In his junior year, he averaged 23.7 points and 7.2 assists per game and was named to the First Team All-Metro. As a senior, he normed 20.8 points, 6.7 rebounds, 6.7 assists, and 3.7 steals per game and led the team to the Maryland Interscholastic Athletic Association A Conference title.

He was a shotmaker and a playmaker in high school, but he had to adjust his game in college to fit within Kentucky’s system.

Throughout the years, Sodipo has come to know Quickley deeper than everybody else in the 21-year old’s basketball circle.

“He’s a special young man, very focused. He’s a young man that really loves the game,” Sodipo said.

Quickley comes from a family with a reputable background that speaks volumes of his character.

“His mother is a high school principal. His father is a church minister,” Sodipo said.

Quickley’s faith and a balanced lifestyle have helped him navigate a bumpy collegiate career where he understood that he had to earn his spot despite being a five-star recruit out of high school.

“He’s always in the gym, getting better at his craft. He’s somebody that he wants to get better,” Sodipo said.

“But when he was growing up, he’s played drums and other musical instruments. He’s been studious and religious. He’s a really fine, talented young man.”

Quickley checks all the boxes for teams looking for a high-character guy who has NBA skills to match.

Sodipo has been training him non-stop in a private gym just five minutes from the Quickley’s residence.

“We’ve been working on his game, getting stronger, working on his strength and conditioning, shooting, ball handling, passing drills and everything,” Sodipo said.

Quickley is determined to prove to everyone that he’s more than just a shooter and a sleeper in this unpredictable Draft class.


Very good read

If he is all that then I feel pretty good about this pick


Feel better about this pick after reading that.

Still think the Knicks FO was mediocre on draft night
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Re: Immanuel Quickley to the Knicks @ 25 

Post#83 » by MaseInYourFace » Thu Nov 19, 2020 1:09 pm

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I was looking forward to seeing wifebeater wearing family in the garden.

Imagine we drafted LaMelo AND Flynn?

There might have been more entertainment in the seats than the court!


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Post#84 » by iLLmatic860 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 1:10 pm

I know we wanted Terry but how much better defensively is Quickley comparing to Terry?
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Post#85 » by sims » Thu Nov 19, 2020 1:16 pm

i get chasson randle vibes from quickley
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Post#86 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Nov 19, 2020 1:17 pm

iLLmatic860 wrote:I know we wanted Terry but how much better defensively is Quickley comparing to Terry?


Apparently much better.

And kind of like Terry, he was a PG who got asked to play off the ball a lot at Kentucky.
Obviously, there were things I liked about Terry, but it's possible that Quickly is the better, more efficient, less flashy version.

Would have been nice to have both somehow. Terry went just before 33 though, not that the Knicks would have taken him anyway
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Post#87 » by CharlesOakley » Thu Nov 19, 2020 1:26 pm

From that article it seems that Quickley may have more point guard skills than he was able to show in college. He is an elite shooter and a positive defender. I don't hate it (yet).
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Post#88 » by King of Canada » Thu Nov 19, 2020 1:31 pm

CharlesOakley wrote:From that article it seems that Quickley may have more point guard skills than he was able to show in college. He is an elite shooter and a positive defender. I don't hate it (yet).


He was a 5 star recruit as a pg. Needs a little work on his handle, but that happens. He's good on D, which is the first step along with the lights out shooting.
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Re: Immanuel Quickley to the Knicks @ 25 

Post#89 » by 2010 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 1:56 pm

Knicks went BPA and high immediate impact at #8 with Toppin then went safe with a high floor safe pick at #25 in Quickley, whom they have great intel and familiarity with. Not sure what some are disappointed at?

Quickley isn't a flashy or sexy pick. But dude is playable early for Thibs and fulfills a clear role in an area the team had a major void as a guard who is a real shooter yet can still defend.

Terry was a comparable shooter but way more risky with his body and inability to defend NBA guards fresh out the gate.

As for Kentucky guards, I liked Quickley more than Maxey and he was higher on my board cuz he was a proven shooter with comparable defense. Quickley was a very solid pick.

I give us a B+ on draft night. If we had maximized #33 and got another future contributor it would have been an A. But they punted the #33 slot which tells me we have the roster spot accounted for a vet unless it was a specific player still available in the 2nd.
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Re: Immanuel Quickley to the Knicks @ 25 

Post#90 » by robillionaire » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:30 pm

He seems like he could be a good fit with RJ
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Post#91 » by coopnyc74 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:34 pm

Some of you cats need to watch some college hoops, he was the best player on a team of 5 star recruits, was clutch and plays as hard as any guard I watched all year. This was more than a solid pick. He is better than Frank now and will get minutes.
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Post#92 » by SelbyCobra » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:34 pm

https://theathletic.com/2197952/2020/11/18/immanuel-quickley-nba-draft-new-york-knicks-trade/

John Calipari has sent some pretty good players to the NBA, but not just the can’t-miss, No. 1-pick types such as John Wall, Anthony Davis and Karl-Anthony Towns. During a playoff bubble that turned into a Kentucky basketball infomercial, Heat coach Erik Spoelstra said what his organization loves the most about drafting Calipari players is they’ve learned how to play a role. That most of them, what with their five-star talent, can do more than what they’ve shown on loaded UK rosters, but they’ve also come to grips with the reality of professional basketball: Almost everybody is a role player, and that’s a helluva living in a multi-billion-dollar league.

“Our guys leave here knowing how to play and knowing how to play with other really good players,” Kentucky assistant Joel Justus said. “Our guys play winning basketball because Cal demands it.”

The Heat made the 2020 NBA Finals in part because they stole a couple of undervalued Wildcats in the previous three drafts. There’s Bam Adebayo, who at 23 is already an All-Star, but also Tyler Herro, who was only the fifth-highest ranked recruit Kentucky signed in 2018 and then became the 13th overall pick in 2019 and an All-Rookie selection in 2020. Herro was ridiculously good in the playoffs, and now there’s an afterglow effect: teams wondering whether Calipari has any more of those underrated, cold-blooded, bucket-getting guards they might swipe at a bargain in this draft. Another guy like Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, the seventh-highest ranked recruit the Cats singed in 2017, the 11th pick in 2018 and All-Rookie selection in 2019.

Calipari thinks he might just. His name is Immanuel Quickley, the fourth-highest ranked recruit Kentucky signed in 2018, a deep reserve in 2019 and the SEC Player of the Year in 2020.

“The kid lives in the gym,” Calipari said. “He’s kind of like Tyler, he’s like Shai, those guys. He’s just like them.”

That’s what the New York Knicks are banking on after getting him as a result of a draft-night trade with the New Orleans Pelicans that involved the 25th overall pick, used to select Quickley.

“I’ve been watching a lot of Tyler from last year, because I’m going to be put in those same positions,” Quickley said during his breakout sophomore year. “The reads he makes, the pocket passes off the bounce, when he pulls up. Just trying to take those things and implement them in my game.”

Quickley was Herro’s teammate as a freshman and took a backseat to Herro, Keldon Johnson and PJ Washington. He averaged just 5.2 points. And Quickley didn’t exactly roar out of the gate in Year 2 — he started only 20 of 30 games for the Wildcats — but once he warmed up, he quickly (so to speak) caught fire. During an eight-game winning streak in February that clinched the SEC championship for Kentucky, he averaged 21.1 points. He scored 77 points and hit 14 of 23 3-pointers in consecutive wins over LSU, Florida and Texas A&M.

“You take a look at how Tyler played this year,” Justus said, “and I’m telling you that spacing will be really good for Immanuel. NBA spacing was huge for Tyler. It’s going to do the exact same thing for Immanuel.”


Like Herro the year before, something about hostile environments brought out the best in Quickley. He averaged 19.1 points and made 59.2 percent of his 3-pointers in 10 true road games. He hit eight 3s in a game, scored 30 points in a game, made 14 straight free throws in a game, grabbed 12 rebounds in a game. At 6-foot-3 with a 6-8¼ wingspan and strong defensive instincts, he also allowed just 0.48 points per possession in one-on-one situations. A five-star point guard coming out of high school but moved off the ball at UK, Quickley could do a little bit of everything. Mostly, though, he was a sniper.

He led the Cats in 3-point attempts, makes and percentage; free-throw attempts, makes and percentage; and scoring.

“On his wall, on his mirror in his bathroom in the lodge, his goal for this year was to be a starter. Was to be a starter!” Calipari said. “From that, he became player of the year, as voted on by the coaches who had to play against him. I’m so proud of Immanuel. One of the great kids that I’ve ever coached. One of the most grounded young men that I’ve ever coached.”

Quickley’s story is one of courage and joy. He chose basketball even when his deeply religious father, who has never seen him play in person, refused to support it. Quickley, a devout Christian himself, has slowly but surely shown Dad he can walk a righteous path and be a baller simultaneously. That maybe one day he can preach from this substantial platform that he’s building.

“He gave the team prayer. Normally I spread it around so that before we go out for a game, no one in the room would know who I was calling on,” Calipari said. “But with him, he was so good and the players had so much faith in his faith that I made it for him to do it. He did not force his faith on anybody, but you could see his faith through how he lived his life.”

That’s nice. It matters, certainly. A real bonus when drafting a guy. Maybe even a predictor of his work ethic. But it’s a distant second to the basketball. Plenty of fine humans have no place on an NBA roster. It boils down to: Can you play?

NBA Draft combine results suggest Quickley can. He ranked second in the 3-point star drill (20 spot-up attempts off movement) at 75 percent. He ranked second in the 3-point endurance drill (five straight minutes of game-speed spot-ups) at 76 percent. He sank 94 of 100 free throws – a distinctly Tyler Herro move. Those two friends rank 1-2 in school history for single-season percentage at the line.


“Quickley is a safe bet, because you’re getting a three-and-D guy,” one NBA scout told The Athletic. “You wish he was a little more athletic. You wish he was a much better finisher at the rim. I think everyone has come to terms with the fact he’s not a point guard right now. Maybe you try to develop him into somewhat of a combo, but he’s getting on the court because he can shoot and defend. The character stuff will help. The fact he’s been through adversity. He would handle it fine going to the G League for a little while, where other players you worry about in that situation. I think Immanuel has enough going for him that he’ll stick around.”
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Post#93 » by F N 11 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:39 pm

Lets go IQ ! No more should of could of would of. Just support.
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Post#94 » by Tron Carter » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:51 pm

I just wanna see an IQ/Frank/RJ/Obi/Mitch lineup for more then 20 minutes this season.

That’s all I ask.
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Post#95 » by DowNY » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:54 pm

Going to be good off the bench. Microwave type combo guard. Good FT numbers and 3.
Interested to seen defensive sets with him & Frank.
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Post#96 » by DOT » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:57 pm

He can shoot and play defense

Reason he didn't go earlier is cause he has a PG body without PG abilities

I liked Bane better, but Quick could be a rotational player, which is fine at 25.

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Post#97 » by NotDikembeSayNo » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:57 pm

I don't mind the pick but you can't tell me he wouldn't have been there at 27. He wasn't even a projected first rounder by most. We could have stayed put and kept our second rounder. Then again, we traded the 33rd pick for a sack of marbles so I guess we would have been ditching the 38th pick anyway.
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Post#98 » by Polk377 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:02 pm

Guys, we got lucky there was no NCAA tournament this year. Quickley is a spotlight player who was primed to light it up. We would not be talking about this kid at #25 being a reach if that was the case.
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Post#99 » by Strick » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:04 pm

Well, even though it wasn’t the shooting PG I wanted I’m glad they did get someone with shooting ability at the guard position. We desperately need guys who can stretch it out. It will be interesting to see if IQ is from the UK mold of guys where their game expands quite dramatically when they hit the next level.

Worst case scenario I think he can be a combo guard off the bench who can stretch the field and hold his own on defense.

With Payne and Johnnie Bryant maybe they’ll elevate him to much more than that. I’m rooting for him. Seems to have a really good head on his shoulders
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