Offseason Trades and Transaction Ideas Thread

[newyorker4ever]

Trade Randle before he becomes a 38 million dollar albatross after next season.

Randle has personified what you want out of a player and a team and helped bring NY back; trading him would be a PR nightmare. But just for the sake of discussion - what do you actually think you could get for Randle?

a) It would be a PR nightmare, agreed
b) Not sure, not enough - I don't think enough teams want him
c) Knicks are doomed
d) Have a nice day!

[newyorker4ever]

Knicks should keep a strong eye on the Colin Sexton situation. He fits in our timeline and isn't due for an extention until next year. Maybe see if 19th, 32nd Knox and future 2nd could get it done.

I don’t really like his fit with the roster. His game is a souped up version of Payton, but if the price is fair they should kick the tires.

If by similar to Payton you mean attacks the basket then sure but he is lightyears better as a shooter and has more confidence. He is only 23 and getting better. Hell maybe we can get him for just taking on Kevin Love's contract if all else fails this Offseason.

First of all you say he isn't due for a extension until next year like next year is 4 years away....Lol. He is similar to Payton in that he attacks the basket is by far the better shooter but Elf's defense is by far better than Sexton's. Don't get me wrong i'd take Sexton over Elf every day of the week but i just can't get behind trading Obi, IQ and our two 1st round picks for an average to maybe good SG in a PG's body when i don't think it's all that hard to find a small G who can shoot in the high 30% from 3 and can take it to the basket.

If it were for one 1st round pick, a 2nd round pick or two and take Knox and/or Frank or something like that then i'd do it.

[WargamesX]

If by similar to Payton you mean attacks the basket then sure but he is lightyears better as a shooter and has more confidence. He is only 23 and getting better. Hell maybe we can get him for just taking on Kevin Love's contract if all else fails this Offseason.

I don’t think his shooting is consistent enough to play him off ball. On ball he would be great as a playmaker, and is better than Elfrid. However, if the goal is for Sexton to start he has to be a reliable 3 pt threat or the defense can lag off him and start to double team.

Sexton shot above league average from 3 at 37% on 4 attempts a game and this was his worst year. Might actually get better shooting off ball with better spacing.

You’re right he could be a good off guard but he is wired to be ball dominant and while he improved his three I don’t have full faith in it. If the price is fair, a trade isn’t the worst thing but I think there might be better fits out there. I just think his game is iso ball and he’ll need time to learn to play any way else.

[Dave DaButcher]

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Hey Dame, New York is the concrete jungle where dreams are made of, where there’s nothing you can’t do.

[NYF13]

I am excited....

PG Sexton Rose LucaVildoza
SG Lonzo Quickley
SF Barrett Bullock/Burks
PF Randle Toppin Knox
C Turner Mitch Pelle

[HarthorneWingo]

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no around Barclays u can get a 1br thats decent for 2700. something really trashy, or like 5 blocks from subway you can get down to 2400
if u want something nice like having washer/dryer in unit u can pay 3200-4000 for a 1br

It'll be interesting to how business models change in the coming year of two post-COVID and how that will effect the local housing markets. Do you live in one of the 5?

Philadelphia, where I used to live for about 30 years, has a much more affordable housing market.

No I actually live on the west coast rn. I'm moving back to nyc soon

my friend in the west village tells me that the deals for rentals are pretty much gone. they are still 10% off peak or so but you're no longer really able to negotiate anymore according to her. a lot of landlords sat on empty units and didn't even bother marketing them at 20%+ off in Manhattan from what she told me.

Philly is actually a really cool city to live in rn imo. super underrated but there is quite a bit of gentrifying struggle going on rn in a lot of neighborhoods. you can get an actually decent townhouse in an ok-ish neighborhood for under 300k still from what I remember.

I really love Philadelphia. Easy to move around the city, great restaurants, only 1:45 from NYC, sports teams. Great hospitals. Jersey shore.

[mpharris36]

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Hey Dame, New York is the concrete jungle where dreams are made of, where there’s nothing you can’t do.

no offense to dame but you won't be able to do it in portland. That team is that team. You can maneuver some pieces around but you can't even beat an injury depleted Nuggets team..the road through the west wont get easier next year. It will only get harder.

[thebuzzardman]

Dame wants to win
Dame makes a zillion $ per year

What are the teams that
a) Can afford Dame
b) Not gut the team to acquire Dame
c) Have players/picks Portland can actually use
d) 3rd teams with lots of picks and cap space are allowed to be used to make this happen.

My prediction: Dallas gets Dame and OKC is a facilitator of picks towards Portland and getting players from both Dallas & OKC
(And that Frank goes to join Luka/KP & Dame)

Anyone else?

[RandlesCornrows]

Well unless Dame is talking to Kawhi or tells Leon to go out and get another star. He ain’t coming here.

I can see Denver, Miami, Milwaukee, possibly Dallas if they can be clever about it.

I don’t think the Knicks make sense if he wants to win a championship.

If that’s the case fill in the blanks?

Assuming RJ Barrett is heading to Portland.

Dame Lillard — Derrick Rose?
Immanuel Quickley — Reggie Bullock?
???? — Alec Burks??
Julius Randle — ????
Mitchell Robinson — Nerlens Noel???

Does DeMar DeRozen get it done?? Idk man seems like we’d waste Dames career here

[Nazrmohamed]

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Hey Dame, New York is the concrete jungle where dreams are made of, where there’s nothing you can’t do.

Regardless of what he does, that Jersey is legit though. Might come outta retirement to buy that jersey

[Nazrmohamed]

Well unless Dame is talking to Kawhi or tells Leon to go out and get another star. He ain’t coming here.

I can see Denver, Miami, Milwaukee, possibly Dallas if they can be clever about it.

I don’t think the Knicks make sense if he wants to win a championship.

If that’s the case fill in the blanks?

Assuming RJ Barrett is heading to Portland.

Dame Lillard — Derrick Rose?
Immanuel Quickley — Reggie Bullock?
???? — Alec Burks??
Julius Randle — ????
Mitchell Robinson — Nerlens Noel???

Does DeMar DeRozen get it done?? Idk man seems like we’d waste Dames career here

I agree but you said the factor yourself. I'm either confident he won't show up, or that he's coming with Kawhi. Those are the two options

Thing about "gutting your team" is your also gutting yourself of offsetting salaries. So in effect we would actually have cap space. We won't have youth or picks but we could do it in such a ways that you still have money left over, especially if you can sign and trade some guys.

The choice is yours if you wanna play victim again and not use that money wisely. I used to argue that fans had such a victim mentality over the Melo trade they forget that we paid Amare actually more than Melo to sit and take wine baths. Had we amnestied Amare instead of Billups we could've gotten Chandler anyway except with a healthy Billups instead who actually helped Melo get to the WCF. We did many more bad moves after the Melo trade financially. But it was easy to keep regurgitating that Melo was the reason we couldn't improve the team post trade.

I mean even if we didn't land Kawhi, you gave great example....Demmar Derozen. Now if you ask me today I'm not thrilled about Demmar but that's because my mindset is that we got young guys he'd get ahead of and really that's not the star I wanna chase. But now after the Lillard trade the damage has already been done. The farm already given, the attachments to drafted players extinguished. At that point maybe Demmar as a third star don't sound so bad. Who's really lining up to pay Demmar?

[aggo]

It'll be interesting to how business models change in the coming year of two post-COVID and how that will effect the local housing markets. Do you live in one of the 5?

Philadelphia, where I used to live for about 30 years, has a much more affordable housing market.

No I actually live on the west coast rn. I'm moving back to nyc soon

my friend in the west village tells me that the deals for rentals are pretty much gone. they are still 10% off peak or so but you're no longer really able to negotiate anymore according to her. a lot of landlords sat on empty units and didn't even bother marketing them at 20%+ off in Manhattan from what she told me.

Philly is actually a really cool city to live in rn imo. super underrated but there is quite a bit of gentrifying struggle going on rn in a lot of neighborhoods. you can get an actually decent townhouse in an ok-ish neighborhood for under 300k still from what I remember.

I really love Philadelphia. Easy to move around the city, great restaurants, only 1:45 from NYC, sports teams. Great hospitals. Jersey shore.

Philly has great culture, restaurants. Its also a little younger I feel in terms of avg age.

and when u can buy a townhouse for 250-300k in an OKish neighborhood its actually quite affordable IMO. I think long term it would be a good "investment" as it gentrifies more and more and younger ppl move in bc they want to live in a city without paying millions for a house or apartment.

[Monk1718]

You save up for players like SGA becoming available not Collin sexton. The reality of the situation is Sexton though so whatever.

[sol537]

If WWW can convince Kawhi and Lillard to come in to NY together, then that's the only way it could make sense. It doesn't make sense to get Lillard alone.

Lillard, Bullock, Kawhi, Randle, Mitch

[Brandingo83]

You save up for players like SGA becoming available not Collin sexton. The reality of the situation is Sexton though so whatever.

I like Shai Giggly a lot and think he has NYC all over him. Think he’s a model too. OKC has a ton of picks already tho lol. I don’t see him resigning there so his name may be in trade discussions soon. I’m keeping an eye on Dame situation first but I be monitoring SGA too lol

[Brandingo83]

If WWW can convince Kawhi and Lillard to come in to NY together, then that's the only way it could make sense. It doesn't make sense to get Lillard alone.

Lillard, Bullock, Kawhi, Randle, Mitch

I honestly think Dame alone would be fine if Mitch stays healthy or we sign Jared Allen or someone like that. I’m just looking at Atlanta with Trae, Collins and Capela, and think Dame, Randle, and Mitch/Allen could be just as good. Plus we’ll most likely resign Rose and Burks off the bench. I think we’re a little better defensively too.

PS. Bradley Beal may be easier to acquire than Kawhi opting out

[HarthorneWingo]

Kawhi and Lillard? And you're leaving out Melo?

You guys got to be kidding, right?

[Knicks1992]

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"he Miami #Heat will be open to trading Tyler Herro this offseason. Per sources to
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Kentucky product so you never know.

[newyorker4ever]

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A Julius Randle trade that would make a lot of sense for the New York Knicks.

Make no mistake about it, Julius Randle had a fantastic season for the New York Knicks. In his second year as a Knick, Randle averaged 24.1 points, 10.2 rebounds, and six assists per game which paved the way for their first playoff berth since 2013.

He earned several awards such as most improved player, second-team All-NBA, and was a first-time all-star at age 26. Things were looking up for Randle and the Knicks until he failed to keep up with Trae Young and the Atlanta Hawks in the first round of the NBA playoffs.

S,o what’s next for him and the franchise?

Yes, the Knicks could continue to build around him and RJ Barrett and see where that takes them. But another option would be to see if they could maximize his value given his season, age, and contract to parlay that into something more. The fact of the matter is his value has never been higher than it is right now. Should the Knicks capitalize on this?

[RandlesCornrows]

Draft day trades:
21st & Kevin Knox to NOP for Eric Bledsoe & 10th
19th & 32nd to WSH for 15th


At first it’s a NOPE to his contract, but FA sucks this year and it’s a 2 year deal to draft Bouknight. Best case Bledsoe can play off the bench and raise his value to be trade bait. Certainly good enough to be a nice scorer off the bench. And NOP def wants to get rid of him so they can get Zion help and free up a guard spot.

10th pick: James Bouknight
15th pick: Corey Kispert

Then sign Dennis Schroder a 2 year deal / 36m player opt.

Dennis Schröder — Eric Bledsoe
James Bouknight — Immanuel Quickley
R.J. Barrett — Corey Kispert
Julius Randle — Obi Toppin
Mitchell Robinson — Nerlens Noel

Sure we don’t have our PG locked up but we have 2 veterans to lead this young group until we can trade some of them for Mitchell or another star guard wants out.

Bouknight and Kispert would be HUGE for our scoring issues.

Having a young core of:
RJ Barrett
James Bouknight
Immanuel Quickley
Obi Toppin
Mitchell Robinson
Corey Kispert

And still got tons of FRP avail. Good lord please Leon get er done