Its time for the Knicks to make a move on Randle before its too late.

[TheGreenArrow]

Don’t fall for the shenanigans folks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rob is clearly trolling with this Randle stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mister Ed is clearly a close relative of Randle or 3totheheads burner account!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[NYKat]

Where was this talk last year when Randle led the team to the playoffs and won MIP? Or how about the month of October when the Knicks were 5-1?
Is there any player this board wouldn't turn on in the blink of a second?

This is the reason the Knicks can never have a good team. The fan base isn't willing to be patient (unless its the likes of Frank Ntilikina). How can you ever rebuild with a fan base that turn on any and every player after a poor game? This is becoming disgraceful...

I’m just quoting this to state I agree with the Frank Ntilikina part. LOL

Fan base wants to be patient for obvious bums like Frank or even Knox but turn on legends like Melo or kids that show promise like RJ & Quickley. Just weird.

This fanbase just prefers youth and unproven talent (see:Jeremy Lin)

We’re doing it now with the McBrides and Grimes acting like we should build the franchise around them…

The problem is these players look good until the league has a sample size large enough to figure them out, only then do we see if they’re any good

[god shammgod]

Where was this talk last year when Randle led the team to the playoffs and won MIP? Or how about the month of October when the Knicks were 5-1?
Is there any player this board wouldn't turn on in the blink of a second?

This is the reason the Knicks can never have a good team. The fan base isn't willing to be patient (unless its the likes of Frank Ntilikina). How can you ever rebuild with a fan base that turn on any and every player after a poor game? This is becoming disgraceful...

I’m just quoting this to state I agree with the Frank Ntilikina part. LOL

Fan base wants to be patient for obvious bums like Frank or even Knox but turn on legends like Melo or kids that show promise like RJ & Quickley. Just weird.

This fanbase just prefers youth and unproven talent (see:Jeremy Lin)

We’re doing it now with the McBrides and Grimes acting like we should build the franchise around them…

The problem is these players look good until the league has a sample size large enough to figure them out, only then do we see if they’re any good

there's nobody on the roster worth building around. nobody. and that's the point. people want to watch the kids because at least they play hard and watching them get better, or not, is at least interesting. the vets provide nothing of interest to watch whatsoever. and if you do just play the kids you'll likely lose more and maybe, just maybe, you'll find someone worth building around in the draft.

[Chanel Bomber]

I mean anyone who looked at the numbers objectively last season would've realized that last season's success had more to do with Derrick Rose than Julius Randle.

Why was Randle overhyped as the face of the franchise's revival then?

1. Randle was a starter and Rose came off the bench
2. Randle was 26 and Rose was 32

Knicks fans bought the Randle hype based on the fact that he was younger. It's more convenient to believe that a 26-year-old is driving your success than a 32-year old. It means you have a bright future ahead.

I swear I'm gonna bang my head against the wall the next time I hear people mention how Randle was an All-NBA player last year. He didn't deserve to be. It means nothing besides purely perception.

[Jimmit79]

I mean anyone who looked at the numbers objectively last season would've realized that last season's success had more to do with Derrick Rose than Julius Randle.

Why was Randle overhyped as the face of the franchise's revival then?

1. Randle was a starter and Rose came off the bench
2. Randle was 26 and Rose was 32

Knicks fans bought the Randle hype based on the fact that he was younger. It's more convenient to believe that a 26-year-old is driving your success than a 32-year old. It means you have a bright future ahead.

I swear I'm gonna bang my head against the wall the next time I hear people mention how Randle was an All-NBA player last year. He didn't deserve to be. It means nothing besides purely perception.

At least don't try to take guys achievement from last year if you can't accept that then your a very little angry person.

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[Chanel Bomber]

I mean anyone who looked at the numbers objectively last season would've realized that last season's success had more to do with Derrick Rose than Julius Randle.

Why was Randle overhyped as the face of the franchise's revival then?

1. Randle was a starter and Rose came off the bench
2. Randle was 26 and Rose was 32

Knicks fans bought the Randle hype based on the fact that he was younger. It's more convenient to believe that a 26-year-old is driving your success than a 32-year old. It means you have a bright future ahead.

I swear I'm gonna bang my head against the wall the next time I hear people mention how Randle was an All-NBA player last year. He didn't deserve to be. It means nothing besides purely perception.

At least don't try to take guys achievement from last year if you can't accept that then your a very little angry person.

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Ok

[god shammgod]

I mean anyone who looked at the numbers objectively last season would've realized that last season's success had more to do with Derrick Rose than Julius Randle.

Why was Randle overhyped as the face of the franchise's revival then?

1. Randle was a starter and Rose came off the bench
2. Randle was 26 and Rose was 32

Knicks fans bought the Randle hype based on the fact that he was younger. It's more convenient to believe that a 26-year-old is driving your success than a 32-year old. It means you have a bright future ahead.

I swear I'm gonna bang my head against the wall the next time I hear people mention how Randle was an All-NBA player last year. He didn't deserve to be. It means nothing besides purely perception.

At least don't try to take guys achievement from last year if you can't accept that then your a very little angry person.

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Ok

he does have you there

[NYKat]

I’m just quoting this to state I agree with the Frank Ntilikina part. LOL

Fan base wants to be patient for obvious bums like Frank or even Knox but turn on legends like Melo or kids that show promise like RJ & Quickley. Just weird.

This fanbase just prefers youth and unproven talent (see:Jeremy Lin)

We’re doing it now with the McBrides and Grimes acting like we should build the franchise around them…

The problem is these players look good until the league has a sample size large enough to figure them out, only then do we see if they’re any good

there's nobody on the roster worth building around. nobody. and that's the point. people want to watch the kids because at least they play hard and watching them get better, or not, is at least interesting. the vets provide nothing of interest to watch whatsoever. and if you do just play the kids you'll likely lose more and maybe, just maybe, you'll find someone worth building around in the draft.

Right… it’s always the philosophical choice of prioritizing development (and tanking) over competitiveness (and culture)

I’d rather prioritize competitiveness, and I feel like we could have fielded a competitive team, if the we didn’t make panic decisions 20 games into the season…

Having said that, I think we all wanna see the kids get at some fair minutes I don’t think anyone prefers watching Thibs play an 8 man rotation of vets for 42 minutes, while guys like Obi and Grimes get single digit minutes so I’m kind of out on the coaching staff right now

[Chanel Bomber]

At least don't try to take guys achievement from last year if you can't accept that then your a very little angry person.

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Ok

he does have you there

He definitely got me at angry

But little?

[god shammgod]

This fanbase just prefers youth and unproven talent (see:Jeremy Lin)

We’re doing it now with the McBrides and Grimes acting like we should build the franchise around them…

The problem is these players look good until the league has a sample size large enough to figure them out, only then do we see if they’re any good

there's nobody on the roster worth building around. nobody. and that's the point. people want to watch the kids because at least they play hard and watching them get better, or not, is at least interesting. the vets provide nothing of interest to watch whatsoever. and if you do just play the kids you'll likely lose more and maybe, just maybe, you'll find someone worth building around in the draft.

Right… it’s always the philosophical choice of prioritizing development (and tanking) over competitiveness (and culture)

I’d rather prioritize competitiveness, and I feel like we could have fielded a competitive team, if the we didn’t make panic decisions 20 games into the season…

Having said that, I think we all wanna see the kids get at some fair minutes I don’t think anyone prefers watching Thibs play an 8 man rotation of vets for 42 minutes, while guys like Obi and Grimes get single digit minutes so I’m kind of out on the coaching staff right now

you lost me here. benching kemba ruined our chance to be competitive ? that's an opinion but there's no proof of that. we were bad with him and without him. outside of the 5-1 start, it's been consistently bad. if you wanna say he was somewhat scapegoated, i won't really argue because most of the team is playing bad and it didn't get better without him. but i don't think he still being in the rotation was changing anything. because most of the team is still playing bad. and they still would be if he was playing.

[thebuzzardman]

This is just an outright lie - - he is not -22 per game - - how ridiculous, he is a -4.7 a game, which is still not good, it is the same as Fox that everyone wants to trade for however. Hey Morant is - 4.4, Doncic is a -4.0. Pure trash thsoe guys. You want to hate someone, hate China, they are destroying the F World.

You should go over there and kick their 1.4 billion asses.

I mean, I could get all nationalistic and want our country to kick their countries ass, but the last administration did a bang up job telling me that the government, and I would have to assume by extension the military, since it is part of the government, is in thrall to evil pineal gland eating pedophiles, so I don't feel comfortable backing any plan against China, since it's suspect and run by evil people.
Maybe...like, the Hungarians and Polish and Russians might want a crack at them. Maybe they'll take foreign recruits! The French do, but...it's the French.

Preach!

I say let’s wipe out Canada next

Only if it's a peer to peer, grassroots populist uprising, with no leaders, where all the good people coalesce into a motivated army which then overthrows the evil Socialist Canadians. Then I'm all for it.

[Chanel Bomber]

Randle had a remarkable year last season. Deserved MIP. Deserved the love of the fans.

But All-NBA should've gone to D-Rose. Imo.

[dakomish23]

Too early to dump him.

He does need to get back to the way he was playing last year. He may not be able to replicate the numbers / output from last year, but he can repeat the actions that got him there. Seems to be forcing the issue more like he did his first year.

This island got vacated real fast Looking like a ghost city

https://www.insider.com/abandoned-cities-2018-8

[god shammgod]

Too early to dump him.

He does need to get back to the way he was playing last year. He may not be able to replicate the numbers / output from last year, but he can repeat the actions that got him there. Seems to be forcing the issue more like he did his first year.

This island got vacated real fast Looking like a ghost city

https://www.insider.com/abandoned-cities-2018-8

can he ? his jumper has become bad again. from 3 and midrange. and without that he's limited. that's why he forces the issue.

[Chanel Bomber]

Too early to dump him.

He does need to get back to the way he was playing last year. He may not be able to replicate the numbers / output from last year, but he can repeat the actions that got him there. Seems to be forcing the issue more like he did his first year.

This island got vacated real fast Looking like a ghost city

https://www.insider.com/abandoned-cities-2018-8

I think one of the big problems is that he's being defended differently this year, and he's struggling to adjust, especially with his 3-point shot regressing back to the mean.

[thebuzzardman]

Randle put in a lot of hard work.
It was a contract year.
Kenny Payne got in his ear.
Thibs motivated him.
Thibs handed him the keys to the franchise car.
Randle is not as motivated since he got paid.
Randle is also sick of Thibs, as Thibs wears on players. It just got to Randle quicker, because his "legendary offseason workout" last year a bit of a fake hustle. Last year was real enough, it's just that he doesn't want to do it every year.

The vets are tuning out Thibs. Randle is the leader of tuning him out.

[thebuzzardman]

Knicks shot well and played good defense last year.
League changes the ball and institutes rules that make it easier for every team to play defense
Coincidence? I think not.

[Deeeez Knicks]

Randle can play better and may put together some good shooting games. We are still better off moving on. There's really no good path for the Knicks to build around Randle. On the right team, with the right stars, maybe he does well. Its just not happening here.
Knicks need to start over before they dig thereselves in deeper.

[dakomish23]

Too early to dump him.

He does need to get back to the way he was playing last year. He may not be able to replicate the numbers / output from last year, but he can repeat the actions that got him there. Seems to be forcing the issue more like he did his first year.

This island got vacated real fast Looking like a ghost city

https://www.insider.com/abandoned-cities-2018-8

can he ? his jumper has become bad again. from 3 and midrange. and without that he's limited. that's why he forces the issue.

It doesn’t seem to be rhythm like last year. Everything was natural last year. Two years ago he’d force the issue when it wasn’t there and he was slower. Idk. Maybe it is as simple as if the jumper drops. I have to watch some tape on his bad games and compare it to last year.

[dakomish23]

Too early to dump him.

He does need to get back to the way he was playing last year. He may not be able to replicate the numbers / output from last year, but he can repeat the actions that got him there. Seems to be forcing the issue more like he did his first year.

This island got vacated real fast Looking like a ghost city

https://www.insider.com/abandoned-cities-2018-8

I think one of the big problems is that he's being defended differently this year, and he's struggling to adjust, especially with his 3-point shot regressing back to the mean.

Maybe it is that simple. I don’t think his baseline is last year but I also think it’s higher than this or from two years ago. Closer to the NOP year