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Donovan Mitchell Thread #5 - Don't worry, nothing happens in this one

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Re: Donovan Mitchell Thread #5 - Don't worry, nothing happens in this one 

Post#81 » by Spree2Houston » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:05 am

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Jonathan2347 wrote:Best news all day lol
Spree2Houston wrote:I believe under cap rules, a team is only allowed to carry 3 max contracts. With Mitchell, they would have 3 - Mitchell, Brunson, and Randle. If they’re giving the max to RJ than most likely Randle will be shipped out.


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That's an odd and interesting rule.

You'd think the size of the contracts makes it almost self limiting from the jump, but I guess there's a way if each player took the low end of the max, plus not be one of those vets making 90 million a year at 40 like Dame will.


I just know there is a rule in place for this. Any cap expert on here that could elaborate on this?
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Re: Donovan Mitchell Thread #5 - Don't worry, nothing happens in this one 

Post#82 » by god shammgod » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:07 am

this whole "i'm in thailand" is just a ruse on green arrow's part to try to throw the fbi off from finding him. then again, don't tourists go missing out there sometimes ? hmm..
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Re: Donovan Mitchell Thread #5 - Don't worry, nothing happens in this one 

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Re: Donovan Mitchell Thread #5 - Don't worry, nothing happens in this one 

Post#84 » by god shammgod » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:11 am

TheGreenArrow wrote::lol:!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In krabi airport rn waiting for my flight to ko samui and going through this thread………..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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do they not extradite ? is that why you're going ?
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Re: Donovan Mitchell Thread #5 - Don't worry, nothing happens in this one 

Post#85 » by DaGawd » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:12 am

Spree2Houston wrote:Rose is forcing Ainge to re-adjust the trade market value for All-stars back to normalcy lol

We hope
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Re: Donovan Mitchell Thread #5 - Don't worry, nothing happens in this one 

Post#86 » by Deeeez Knicks » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:13 am

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thebuzzardman wrote:
Jonathan2347 wrote:Best news all day lol

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That's an odd and interesting rule.

You'd think the size of the contracts makes it almost self limiting from the jump, but I guess there's a way if each player took the low end of the max, plus not be one of those vets making 90 million a year at 40 like Dame will.


neither brusnon or randle actually got maxes though


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Re: Donovan Mitchell Thread #5 - Don't worry, nothing happens in this one 

Post#87 » by Adelheid » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:13 am

what goes in thailand, stays in thailand :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Donovan Mitchell Thread #5 - Don't worry, nothing happens in this one 

Post#88 » by bearadonisdna » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:14 am

Also if we do Westbrook , why buy him out ?
Just play him , Brunson can backup a year and I would also try to Westbrook a lot at small forward.
3 guard lineups etc.

Or reflip him for Harrison Barnes ( expiring)
Not sure what the pros are to buying him vs just utilizing him for a year ?
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Re: Donovan Mitchell Thread #5 - Don't worry, nothing happens in this one 

Post#89 » by K_ick_God » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:15 am

bearadonisdna wrote:All of a sudden this Gobert package stuff starting to annoy me:
That was them,
That was for Gobert.
Good for you it shouldn’t have any bearing on this deal . If anything they peaked and should be expecting less not more.
Next year is when the that particular inflation may occur that teams may have surpass that deal . Not the next week or a month later or 1 deal later .
The market is cyclical and what goes up must come down .
Gobert was a nice haul but 18 and D still out there for 1 first rounder so Gobert package deez nuts.


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Re: Donovan Mitchell Thread #5 - Don't worry, nothing happens in this one 

Post#90 » by god shammgod » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:15 am

DaGawd wrote:
Spree2Houston wrote:Rose is forcing Ainge to re-adjust the trade market value for All-stars back to normalcy lol

We hope


knicks aint getting a bargain. sham will always tell you like it is. it aint gonna be cheap.
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Re: Donovan Mitchell Thread #5 - Don't worry, nothing happens in this one 

Post#91 » by Deeeez Knicks » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:15 am

TheGreenArrow wrote::lol:!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In krabi airport rn waiting for my flight to ko samui and going through this thread………..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=2213569

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Re: Donovan Mitchell Thread #5 - Don't worry, nothing happens in this one 

Post#92 » by god shammgod » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:16 am

bearadonisdna wrote:Also if we do Westbrook , why buy him out ?
Just play him , Brunson can backup a year and I would also try to Westbrook a lot at small forward.
3 guard lineups etc.

Or reflip him for Harrison Barnes ( expiring)
Not sure what the pros are to buying him vs just utilizing him for a year ?



my guy just said start westbrook and bench brunson. dear lord.
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Re: Donovan Mitchell Thread #5 - Don't worry, nothing happens in this one 

Post#93 » by KnixinSix » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:16 am

thebuzzardman wrote:
Jonathan2347 wrote:Best news all day lol
Spree2Houston wrote:I believe under cap rules, a team is only allowed to carry 3 max contracts. With Mitchell, they would have 3 - Mitchell, Brunson, and Randle. If they’re giving the max to RJ than most likely Randle will be shipped out.


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That's an odd and interesting rule.

You'd think the size of the contracts makes it almost self limiting from the jump, but I guess there's a way if each player took the low end of the max, plus not be one of those vets making 90 million a year at 40 like Dame will.


Neither Randle nor Brunson are max contracts
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Re: Donovan Mitchell Thread #5 - Don't worry, nothing happens in this one 

Post#94 » by Clyde_Style » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:16 am

god shammgod wrote:this whole "i'm in thailand" is just a ruse on green arrow's part to try to throw the fbi off from finding him. then again, don't tourists go missing out there sometimes ? hmm..


He is obviously the heir to the McAfee anti-virus fortune who is on the lam after trying to hack our computers. Yes, he's 15 years old and getting drunk and laid for the first time in a foreign land, but he's still a menace to society
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Re: Donovan Mitchell Thread #5 - Don't worry, nothing happens in this one 

Post#95 » by DaGawd » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:17 am

bearadonisdna wrote:Also if we do Westbrook , why buy him out ?
Just play him , Brunson can backup a year and I would also try to Westbrook a lot at small forward.
3 guard lineups etc.

Or reflip him for Harrison Barnes ( expiring)
Not sure what the pros are to buying him vs just utilizing him for a year ?

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Re: Donovan Mitchell Thread #5 - Don't worry, nothing happens in this one 

Post#96 » by god shammgod » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:18 am

probably the best the knicks can hope for is that it's only as expensive as gobert was and not more expensive.
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Re: Donovan Mitchell Thread #5 - Don't worry, nothing happens in this one 

Post#97 » by Adelheid » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:19 am

god shammgod wrote:my guy just said start westbrook and bench brunson. dear lord.


it can happen when tom is coach
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Post#98 » by snadler » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:20 am

bearadonisdna wrote:Also if we do Westbrook , why buy him out ?
Just play him , Brunson can backup a year and I would also try to Westbrook a lot at small forward.
3 guard lineups etc.

Or reflip him for Harrison Barnes ( expiring)
Not sure what the pros are to buying him vs just utilizing him for a year ?


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Re: Donovan Mitchell Thread #5 - Don't worry, nothing happens in this one 

Post#99 » by god shammgod » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:21 am

Adelheid wrote:
god shammgod wrote:my guy just said start westbrook and bench brunson. dear lord.


it can happen when tom is coach


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Re: Donovan Mitchell Thread #5 - Don't worry, nothing happens in this one 

Post#100 » by GONYK » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:27 am

ibraheim718 wrote:
GONYK wrote:I think the team is very open to moving Randle in the right deal.

That deal isn't going to present itself until his value rehabs a bit.

He's basically our version of the Mavs Porzingis


How do you feel about this potential trade? It doesn't make sense to me from a synergistic standpoint. It just feels like it clutters and confuses things. I've soured on Mitchell the last two years.. he hasn't improved on literally anything he needs to improve upon to take him to that next level. He was greased by Jamal Murray in a series where yeah he got his but his assist to turnover ratio was almost 1 to 1. He got smoked by Jalen Brunson last season. He's got personality issues that prevented him from co-existing with Gobert. He can be an emotional wreck on the court sometimes and doesn't wear it well. I can in my mind definitively say this guy doesn't have "it" and isn't worth 6 FRPs. They should just be focused on trading Randle.


I agree with everything you say about Mitchell. I've said numerous times that he's not one of my favorite players or someone I consider a superstar.

That being said, I think he's a top 20-25ish player and a top 10 scorer right now.

I also think he's available at a discount when you consider his age and the years left on his deal. If we trade 5 picks for him, but only 2 are NYK picks, that isn't a bad deal on value. I have more of an issue trading young players for him than I do those protected picks.

I also view a Mitchell acquisition as a move that makes unloading Randle mandatory. So if we need to have one pouty pseudo-star, I'd rather the one that is a bonafide scorer.

I also think Brunson has shown he can play off ball both in college and in Dallas. He has to shoot/make more pull up 3's to really unlock his next tier but if his C&S %'s hold on volume, I think he and Mitchell can work together offensively. Plus, they will be staggered.

The real player getting smushed out in all this will be RJ

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