Tim Legler: "Jalen Brunson Will Not Be A Differance Maker"

[KnicksGadfly]

I would not be surprised if the Knicks are looking to make a significant trade of some sort prior to the Trade Deadline when they realize that something still isn't quite right and that they need something to push them over the top and get into the playoffs. That trade will be at the wing position (whichever one RJ isn't officially listed as). I think that trade will be an easier one to make than a Mitchell level deal but obviously won't be as name worthy.

My take is that this team will be better but it's still missing something. Mitchell would have addressed the talent part had that trade happened but there's more than one way to skin a cat and more than one way to seriously improve. I don't think an SGA deal is something that is going to happen but there will be a trade that is significant that will happen at some point. They need it. Better but not quite right is their current state.

Agreed. One thing I hope Brunson does is raise our team’s trade value. Part of the reason we couldn’t make a Mitchell deal is because the Jazz saw our youth as insignificant and Fournier and Randle as a negative. It’ll be easier to make deals if external perceptions match our FO’s internal perceptions.

Fournier and Randle were never going to be traded to a rebuilding team like the Jazz unless they were expiring contracts.

RJ and GRIMES were the only real trade bait (OBI, CAM, IQ) are young role players that wouldn't even start on that rebuilding Jazz roster.

I feel like this team is as good as the Knicks Roster that Amare came into with a young chandler and Danilo.

At some point this season some team is going to fast track to the bottom of the standings and will want to unload anyone holding them back from doing that.

Agreed. But these were some contracts that had to go out to bring back Mitchell or another star, and it’s a problem if teams ask us to throw in more assets to take them on. If we were able to clear Fournier, for example, without giving up a pick, we could have offered cap space instead.

[DrCoach]

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[HarthorneWingo]

I feel bad for Tim Legler now.

I used to watch him play when he was in college at LaSalle in Philadelphia. He always had perfect form on his jump shot as we all know. But now he needs to just stfu.

[8516knicks]

I feel bad for Tim Legler now.

I used to watch him play when he was in college at LaSalle in Philadelphia. He always had perfect form on his jump shot as we all know. But now he needs to just stfu.

Pretty sure Legler played for Temple not LaSalle. (Knew my big 5 when they were the Big 5). He was a good shooter; Chaney got good players but just couldn't put it over the rim as a coach. But man is he off on Brunson. Bet Brunson's dad reminds him about it soon!

[8516knicks]

Agreed. One thing I hope Brunson does is raise our team’s trade value. Part of the reason we couldn’t make a Mitchell deal is because the Jazz saw our youth as insignificant and Fournier and Randle as a negative. It’ll be easier to make deals if external perceptions match our FO’s internal perceptions.

Fournier and Randle were never going to be traded to a rebuilding team like the Jazz unless they were expiring contracts.

RJ and GRIMES were the only real trade bait (OBI, CAM, IQ) are young role players that wouldn't even start on that rebuilding Jazz roster.

I feel like this team is as good as the Knicks Roster that Amare came into with a young chandler and Danilo.

At some point this season some team is going to fast track to the bottom of the standings and will want to unload anyone holding them back from doing that.

Agreed. But these were some contracts that had to go out to bring back Mitchell or another star, and it’s a problem if teams ask us to throw in more assets to take them on. If we were able to clear Fournier, for example, without giving up a pick, we could have offered cap space instead.

We win 45 and guys will notice. Especially if we outdo Dallas!

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

Ok, so I finally caved in and watched the OP video. All of those guys seem completely clueless.

[8516knicks]

I feel bad for Tim Legler now.

I used to watch him play when he was in college at LaSalle in Philadelphia. He always had perfect form on his jump shot as we all know. But now he needs to just stfu.

Pretty sure Legler played for Temple not LaSalle. (Knew my big 5 when they were the Big 5). He was a good shooter; Chaney got good players but just couldn't put it over the rim as a coach. But man is he off on Brunson. Bet Brunson's dad reminds him about it soon!

OMG = you are correct, sir. La Salle. THIS IS A GENUINE MANDALA MOMENT FOR ME!!!

[HarthorneWingo]

I feel bad for Tim Legler now.

I used to watch him play when he was in college at LaSalle in Philadelphia. He always had perfect form on his jump shot as we all know. But now he needs to just stfu.

Pretty sure Legler played for Temple not LaSalle. (Knew my big 5 when they were the Big 5). He was a good shooter; Chaney got good players but just couldn't put it over the rim as a coach. But man is he off on Brunson. Bet Brunson's dad reminds him about it soon!

OMG = you are correct, sir. La Salle. THIS IS A GENUINE MANDALA MOMENT FOR ME!!!

I WAS AT THE MOTHERFCKING GAMES YO!



In fact, I was attending Temple Law School at that time Legs attended LaSalle and then I continued to live in Philadelphia for another 30 years. (Oh, and my mom's family is all from Philadelphia. She's the oldest of 8 children. My dad, mom, and I lived in my grandmom's house in Philadelphia for a couple of years when I was about 2 years old. But even after we moved to Long Island, we used to visit Philly about one weekend a month until I graduated high school.)

A law school buddy of mine at Temple graduated from LaSalle and since we both played and loved basketball, he'd drag me to a few LaSalle games (on top of the Temple games we'd attend - the basketball arena just across the street from the law school), plus we go to a number of other Big Five games which were a lot of fun in Philly. There's big Philadelphia basketball history when it comes to the Big Five.

[8516knicks]

Ah, the old days. Penn, VU, St. Joes and La Salle all #1 at some point. Temple won the NIT and had good teams under Chaney. Lots of good BB.

[HarthorneWingo]

:) Ah, the old days. Penn, VU, St. Joes and La Salle all #1 at some point. Temple won the NIT and had good teams under Chaney. Lots of good BB.

I believe Terrence Stansbury and Granger Hall (albeit with a damaged knee) were All Americans and, I believe, first round draft picks out of Temple. Nova had Pinkney, Harold Jensen (that punk), the two brothers, and McCann that won the National Championship in '83(?).

I think I was in undergrad at BC when UPenn made the Final Four with Morse, Calhoun, and Jimmy Salters who was a PG from Malverne HS on Long Island who graduated in class of '76. Malverne and my HS (Farmingdale) were two of the top teams in the state. We had Jimmy Graziano, a 6'10" Sporting News' "Dream Team" selection (first team), and a friend of mine, who - despite my advice to the contrary - accepted a full ride to South Carolina instead of the full ride offered to him by DEAN SMITH and NORTH Carolina.

I had another group of friends in the 90s, unrelated to my Temple law school acquaintances, who were from St. Joe's, and got to go to a few games at their field house and that was a blast. Their fans were crazy in a fun way.

(Later in life, I ran basketball with former St. Joe's star Adrian Moody for awhile. I was clearly on another level than us white men who couldn't jump But Adrian was such a mellow guy, he only dialed it up to about 6-7 tops and never, I mean NEVER, called a foul. Nice guy.)

GONYK attended Villanova - after he was declined from BC.

[BKlutch]

Pretty sure Legler played for Temple not LaSalle. (Knew my big 5 when they were the Big 5). He was a good shooter; Chaney got good players but just couldn't put it over the rim as a coach. But man is he off on Brunson. Bet Brunson's dad reminds him about it soon!

OMG = you are correct, sir. La Salle. THIS IS A GENUINE MANDALA MOMENT FOR ME!!!

I WAS AT THE MOTHERFCKING GAMES YO!



In fact, I was attending Temple Law School at that time Legs attended LaSalle and then I continued to live in Philadelphia for another 30 years. (Oh, and my mom's family is all from Philadelphia. She's the oldest of 8 children. My dad, mom, and I lived in my grandmom's house in Philadelphia for a couple of years when I was about 2 years old. But even after we moved to Long Island, we used to visit Philly about one weekend a month until I graduated high school.)

A law school buddy of mine at Temple graduated from LaSalle and since we both played and loved basketball, he'd drag me to a few LaSalle games (on top of the Temple games we'd attend - the basketball arena just across the street from the law school), plus we go to a number of other Big Five games which were a lot of fun in Philly. There's big Philadelphia basketball history when it comes to the Big Five.

8516 was probably thinking you were enjoying some special substance that caused you to hallucinate the presence of Legler while you watched those games, Sir.

But then again, I have to say, your reporting on other games from ancient basketball history has been spot-on. So I'll go with Wingo on this for the win! As for poor Legler, he knows not what he does.

[cldbld]

He's already making a difference.

[Wharton Alum 08]

It's interesting Jalen is given so much grace as a guy who can't guard his position. He couldn't guard Ja and didn't guard Ivey either. It's kind of problematic if your one can't check his own position.

[F N 11]

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[god shammgod]

It's interesting Jalen is given so much grace as a guy who can't guard his position. He couldn't guard Ja and didn't guard Ivey either. It's kind of problematic if your one can't check his own position.

he's pretty bad on d. and an even greater problem is there's nobody else to switch on points who can do a decent job either.

[robillionaire]

It's interesting Jalen is given so much grace as a guy who can't guard his position. He couldn't guard Ja and didn't guard Ivey either. It's kind of problematic if your one can't check his own position.

he's pretty bad on d. and an even greater problem is there's nobody else to switch on points who can do a decent job either.

Reading between the lines. This team desperately needs Frank Ntilikina

[iLLmatic860]

It's interesting Jalen is given so much grace as a guy who can't guard his position. He couldn't guard Ja and didn't guard Ivey either. It's kind of problematic if your one can't check his own position.

he's pretty bad on d. and an even greater problem is there's nobody else to switch on points who can do a decent job either.

Grimes?

[god shammgod]

It's interesting Jalen is given so much grace as a guy who can't guard his position. He couldn't guard Ja and didn't guard Ivey either. It's kind of problematic if your one can't check his own position.

he's pretty bad on d. and an even greater problem is there's nobody else to switch on points who can do a decent job either.

Grimes?

maybe. we'll have to see if he ever gets the chance to start.

[3toheadmelo]

he's pretty bad on d. and an even greater problem is there's nobody else to switch on points who can do a decent job either.

Grimes?

maybe. we'll have to see if he ever gets the chance to start.

Call me negative but with Grimes constantly being hurt I don’t see him living up to his potential. We should’ve just gotten Mitchell. Brunson, Mitchell and this version of Randle would’ve been legit..

[god shammgod]

Grimes?

maybe. we'll have to see if he ever gets the chance to start.

Call me negative but with Grimes constantly being hurt I don’t see him living up to his potential. We should’ve just gotten Mitchell. Brunson, Mitchell and this version of Randle would’ve been legit..

no doubt. and our defense in the backcourt is just as bad now as it would have been with those 2.