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What exactly are we doing with Ihart?

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What exactly are we doing with Ihart?

Politics - We signed him so Thibs is forced to play him to justify the contract
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We are playing him to showcase him for a trade
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He's been kinda hurt/not 100% and we are giving him a chance to play himself back to normal productivity
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As bad as he's played Thibs still trusts him more than Sims
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Some other reason - please elaborate.
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Re: What exactly are we doing with Ihart? 

Post#81 » by Jalen Bluntson » Mon Jan 15, 2024 4:13 pm

FrozenEnvelope wrote:Simply cannot trade Hartenstein now and derail the season so worry about it in the offseason. There is still a lot of season left and a lot that can happen. How he plays in the playoffs will also matter a lot.


It matters now. We can only offer him 15mil per basically. So whatever he does the rest of the year may sway his value but, our ability to pay him is capped. He's certainly worth what we can pay. Is gonna leave for more is the only question left.
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Post#82 » by FrozenEnvelope » Mon Jan 15, 2024 4:19 pm

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FrozenEnvelope wrote:Simply cannot trade Hartenstein now and derail the season so worry about it in the offseason. There is still a lot of season left and a lot that can happen. How he plays in the playoffs will also matter a lot.


It matters now. We can only offer him 15mil per basically. So whatever he does the rest of the year may sway his value but, our ability to pay him is capped. He's certainly worth what we can pay. Is gonna leave for more is the only question left.


This is a major flaw in the CBA. We should be able to keep our own for as much as we want!
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Re: What exactly are we doing with Ihart? 

Post#83 » by Jalen Bluntson » Mon Jan 15, 2024 4:23 pm

FrozenEnvelope wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
FrozenEnvelope wrote:Simply cannot trade Hartenstein now and derail the season so worry about it in the offseason. There is still a lot of season left and a lot that can happen. How he plays in the playoffs will also matter a lot.


It matters now. We can only offer him 15mil per basically. So whatever he does the rest of the year may sway his value but, our ability to pay him is capped. He's certainly worth what we can pay. Is gonna leave for more is the only question left.


This is a major flaw in the CBA. We should be able to keep our own for as much as we want!


I burned myself out on cap rules and all of that back when we had Melo. I believe it's because we only have early Bird rights but, don't hold me to that.
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Re: What exactly are we doing with Ihart? 

Post#84 » by DrPampiloni » Mon Jan 15, 2024 5:48 pm

FrozenEnvelope wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
FrozenEnvelope wrote:Simply cannot trade Hartenstein now and derail the season so worry about it in the offseason. There is still a lot of season left and a lot that can happen. How he plays in the playoffs will also matter a lot.


It matters now. We can only offer him 15mil per basically. So whatever he does the rest of the year may sway his value but, our ability to pay him is capped. He's certainly worth what we can pay. Is gonna leave for more is the only question left.


This is a major flaw in the CBA. We should be able to keep our own for as much as we want!


It's related to the fact that your front office offered him only a two years contract. Or maybe he was the one to gamble on a shorter contract and the Knicks actually wanted to bind him longer than a 2 yrs 16 mln contract, who knows.
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Re: What exactly are we doing with Ihart? 

Post#85 » by Governor Dudley » Mon Jan 15, 2024 6:49 pm

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DrPampiloni wrote:Sorry to intrude from a Mavericks fan. But I follow a bit I-Hart because of German roots, and since you guys signed Jalen Brunson this season from us I am following more Knicks games than usual. I could not help noticing how your guards all share the same disease: tunnel vision, especially Jalen Brunson: this frustrated a lot of Mavs fan already, has not changed one ounce and will forever be the last obstacle between JB and superstardom. He basically is not able to see anything different from the basket any time he drives. I was not a big connoisseur of RJ Barrett's game, but I was astonished at how selfish (or simply unaware) he is on offence. Quickley off the bench is basically a lesser clone of JB.

How does this relate to Hartenstein? I think he is frustrated a lot of times by the absence of touches on offence, there was a sequence last night where he was holding his head in disbelief after Barrett was not able to throw the alley to him even when triple-teamed. He can be very effective, as he was on the Clippers, when playing with good cutters and receiving the ball in the high-post early in the offence, but this also NEVER happens on the Knicks. I honestly hope he gets traded to a team where they play less selfish basketball, or at least one point guard in the whole roster is able te execute an entry pass to a rolling big man after the pick.

I was actually hoping we would sign him instead of cooked Javale McGee in Dallas this year. Do you guys want Dwight Powell on an expiring deal for him? I would swap them in a second.


Hello Knicks fans. I thought I'd bump my #freehartenstein post after you finally traded a couple of ball-hogs for a functional basketball player in OG and unleashed the prophet Isaiah. I will admit Jalen Brunson exceeded my expectations. Now you just need to get rid of Julius Randle and you are a true contender.

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Why? He is / was right. Trading Randle for a good two way player would be amazing.

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Re: What exactly are we doing with Ihart? 

Post#86 » by Jalen Bluntson » Mon Jan 15, 2024 7:14 pm

Governor Dudley wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
DrPampiloni wrote:
Hello Knicks fans. I thought I'd bump my #freehartenstein post after you finally traded a couple of ball-hogs for a functional basketball player in OG and unleashed the prophet Isaiah. I will admit Jalen Brunson exceeded my expectations. Now you just need to get rid of Julius Randle and you are a true contender.

Eat a bag of d*cks
Why? He is / was right. Trading Randle for a good two way player would be amazing.

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Eat a bag of dicks anyway. You guys can share them if you're hungry too! :lol:
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Re: What exactly are we doing with Ihart? 

Post#87 » by robillionaire » Mon Jan 15, 2024 7:19 pm

Governor Dudley wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
DrPampiloni wrote:
Hello Knicks fans. I thought I'd bump my #freehartenstein post after you finally traded a couple of ball-hogs for a functional basketball player in OG and unleashed the prophet Isaiah. I will admit Jalen Brunson exceeded my expectations. Now you just need to get rid of Julius Randle and you are a true contender.

Eat a bag of d*cks
Why? He is / was right. Trading Randle for a good two way player would be amazing.

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Because it ain’t his team to comment on. I don’t go to the Mavs board and tell them to get rid of world b flat. There’s a certain level of courtesy that is expected when you go to another team’s board puff your chest out and bump threads and tell them to trade their players like an attention seeking jackass. I’m not sure how these uppity fans of other teams are getting so bold around here but they need to be lined out
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Re: What exactly are we doing with Ihart? 

Post#88 » by Governor Dudley » Tue Jan 16, 2024 2:23 am

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
Governor Dudley wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:Eat a bag of d*cks
Why? He is / was right. Trading Randle for a good two way player would be amazing.

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Eat a bag of dicks anyway. You guys can share them if you're hungry too!
Your cracked out morher stuffed all of them in her 3 dirty holes before we could get there

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Re: What exactly are we doing with Ihart? 

Post#89 » by Jalen Bluntson » Tue Jan 16, 2024 3:15 am

Governor Dudley wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
Governor Dudley wrote:Why? He is / was right. Trading Randle for a good two way player would be amazing.

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Eat a bag of dicks anyway. You guys can share them if you're hungry too!
Your cracked out morher stuffed all of them in her 3 dirty holes before we could get there

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Wow. You must think this is funny. My mother just died a couple of years ago. Wanna talk about my dead wife too? You fuqqin POS. The internet breeds a bunch of big mouth pussies like you. Wanna make jokes...keep them to the poster themselves and not their families.
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Re: What exactly are we doing with Ihart? 

Post#90 » by KnixtapeH20 » Tue Jan 16, 2024 11:22 pm

Isiah was one of the most useless players in the NBA last season, he couldn't rebound, intimidate, alter shots, much less block shots.... it's incredible how good he's been playing this year....
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Post#91 » by FrozenEnvelope » Wed Jan 17, 2024 2:29 pm

KnixtapeH20 wrote:Isiah was one of the most useless players in the NBA last season, he couldn't rebound, intimidate, alter shots, much less block shots.... it's incredible how good he's been playing this year....


But Thibs and his coaching staff still don't get any credit, right?
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Post#92 » by KnixtapeH20 » Wed Jan 17, 2024 3:15 pm

FrozenEnvelope wrote:
KnixtapeH20 wrote:Isiah was one of the most useless players in the NBA last season, he couldn't rebound, intimidate, alter shots, much less block shots.... it's incredible how good he's been playing this year....


But Thibs and his coaching staff still don't get any credit, right?

I never said he doesn't get any credit but some of yall act like they wouldn't develop under anyone else. I been on record saying Thibs gets credit for changing the culture here but he's way overstayed his welcome. He's a good coach not a great coach. He could be so much better if he wasn't so stubborn and made in game adjustments and actually coached by the game not stuck to his philosophy no matter the personnel
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Post#93 » by prophet_of_rage » Wed Jan 17, 2024 3:28 pm

We're complaining about Ihart why?
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Post#94 » by Woodsanity » Wed Jan 17, 2024 5:13 pm

Got confused and thought this thread was made today but it was made exactly a year ago. :lol:
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Re: What exactly are we doing with Ihart? 

Post#95 » by DrPampiloni » Thu Jan 18, 2024 12:17 pm

robillionaire wrote:
Governor Dudley wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:Eat a bag of d*cks
Why? He is / was right. Trading Randle for a good two way player would be amazing.

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Because it ain’t his team to comment on. I don’t go to the Mavs board and tell them to get rid of world b flat. There’s a certain level of courtesy that is expected when you go to another team’s board puff your chest out and bump threads and tell them to trade their players like an attention seeking jackass. I’m not sure how these uppity fans of other teams are getting so bold around here but they need to be lined out


The bolded part is absolutely insane as a take. It is also "not your team" strictly speaking. I might be a long-time Mavs fan, but I follow for "patriotic" reasons (as I mentioned in my original post a year ago) the path of all German NBA players closely. I have the league pass and thus probably watched more full Knicks games the past two seasons than 3/4 of the posters on this particular board. I even root for them to win when they are not playing the Mavs (and maybe the Magic because of the Wagners). If you re-read my post without your "uppity fans of other teams" lenses you will maybe notice that I am genuinely suggesting ways for the Knicks to get better. If I then get personally attacked, I will defend myself.
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Re: What exactly are we doing with Ihart? 

Post#96 » by robillionaire » Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:34 pm

DrPampiloni wrote:
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Governor Dudley wrote:Why? He is / was right. Trading Randle for a good two way player would be amazing.

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Because it ain’t his team to comment on. I don’t go to the Mavs board and tell them to get rid of world b flat. There’s a certain level of courtesy that is expected when you go to another team’s board puff your chest out and bump threads and tell them to trade their players like an attention seeking jackass. I’m not sure how these uppity fans of other teams are getting so bold around here but they need to be lined out


The bolded part is absolutely insane as a take. It is also "not your team" strictly speaking. I might be a long-time Mavs fan, but I follow for "patriotic" reasons (as I mentioned in my original post a year ago) the path of all German NBA players closely. I have the league pass and thus probably watched more full Knicks games the past two seasons than 3/4 of the posters on this particular board. I even root for them to win when they are not playing the Mavs (and maybe the Magic because of the Wagners). If you re-read my post without your "uppity fans of other teams" lenses you will maybe notice that I am genuinely suggesting ways for the Knicks to get better. If I then get personally attacked, I will defend myself.


If you wanted to talk about Hartenstein I wouldn’t have cared, yet your post had nothing to with him, you are not a fan of this team and come to our board thinking you can speak disrespectfully of former and current players (yes I’m even including RJ in this bless his heart) in your unsolicited team building suggestion. I’ve been Hartenstein’s biggest supporter on this board since the day he got here, I just don’t like you. I’m genuinely suggesting you gtfo and you absolutely came looking for trouble and you found some, I wouldn’t even allow someone from a country who has won a world war come in here and act this way
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Post#97 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:51 pm

DrPampiloni wrote:
robillionaire wrote:
Governor Dudley wrote:Why? He is / was right. Trading Randle for a good two way player would be amazing.

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Because it ain’t his team to comment on. I don’t go to the Mavs board and tell them to get rid of world b flat. There’s a certain level of courtesy that is expected when you go to another team’s board puff your chest out and bump threads and tell them to trade their players like an attention seeking jackass. I’m not sure how these uppity fans of other teams are getting so bold around here but they need to be lined out


The bolded part is absolutely insane as a take. It is also "not your team" strictly speaking. I might be a long-time Mavs fan, but I follow for "patriotic" reasons (as I mentioned in my original post a year ago) the path of all German NBA players closely. I have the league pass and thus probably watched more full Knicks games the past two seasons than 3/4 of the posters on this particular board. I even root for them to win when they are not playing the Mavs (and maybe the Magic because of the Wagners). If you re-read my post without your "uppity fans of other teams" lenses you will maybe notice that I am genuinely suggesting ways for the Knicks to get better. If I then get personally attacked, I will defend myself.


You must be hungry again! :o :lol:
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Post#98 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:53 pm

robillionaire wrote:
DrPampiloni wrote:
robillionaire wrote:
Because it ain’t his team to comment on. I don’t go to the Mavs board and tell them to get rid of world b flat. There’s a certain level of courtesy that is expected when you go to another team’s board puff your chest out and bump threads and tell them to trade their players like an attention seeking jackass. I’m not sure how these uppity fans of other teams are getting so bold around here but they need to be lined out


The bolded part is absolutely insane as a take. It is also "not your team" strictly speaking. I might be a long-time Mavs fan, but I follow for "patriotic" reasons (as I mentioned in my original post a year ago) the path of all German NBA players closely. I have the league pass and thus probably watched more full Knicks games the past two seasons than 3/4 of the posters on this particular board. I even root for them to win when they are not playing the Mavs (and maybe the Magic because of the Wagners). If you re-read my post without your "uppity fans of other teams" lenses you will maybe notice that I am genuinely suggesting ways for the Knicks to get better. If I then get personally attacked, I will defend myself.


If you wanted to talk about Hartenstein I wouldn’t have cared, yet your post had nothing to with him, you are not a fan of this team and come to our board thinking you can speak disrespectfully of former and current players (yes I’m even including RJ in this bless his heart) in your unsolicited team building suggestion. I’ve been Hartenstein’s biggest supporter on this board since the day he got here, I just don’t like you. I’m genuinely suggesting you gtfo and you absolutely came looking for trouble and you found some, I wouldn’t even allow someone from a country who has won a world war come in here and act this way


Too soon? :lol:
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Post#99 » by moocow007 » Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:54 pm

Governor Dudley wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
DrPampiloni wrote:
Hello Knicks fans. I thought I'd bump my #freehartenstein post after you finally traded a couple of ball-hogs for a functional basketball player in OG and unleashed the prophet Isaiah. I will admit Jalen Brunson exceeded my expectations. Now you just need to get rid of Julius Randle and you are a true contender.

Eat a bag of d*cks
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But according to some guys Randle is terrible and a loser and a cancer. Why would any other team trade a good 2 way player for him?
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Post#100 » by moocow007 » Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:55 pm

Woodsanity wrote:Got confused and thought this thread was made today but it was made exactly a year ago. :lol:


This another "I told you so" thread. :D

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