Build a Franchise (Season 6)- Discussion Thread continued

[E-Balla]

I'll say this though when it comes to star ratings. Maybe their algorithm changed since then but when I won the chip I think my team had the most 4-5 stars in the league. I personally just build my team off players I like IRL and that approach has won me a two chips. Sounds like going forward Ima have to download the SIM like yall and study it

You're focusing on the star ratings of the players as opposed to the fit... Like yeah they had high star ratings, but even with lower star ratings they all fit together.

Buying the game won't help you. It's like y'all forget we gotta build rosters without knowing what next year's ratings will be. We don't know ratings until the season starts. I took big gambles on TJ Warren last year and Richaun Holmes this year and in both cases it didn't work out and my team lost players that were supposed to be a big part of my offensive success and scoring.

The reason I'm good at this is even before joining BaF I spent a lot of time on stats.NBA.com. Y'all can continue to not believe me when I say everything you need to dominate the sim is on there (supplemented by the wolverine studio forums giving me insight into the game, going through the history of BaF, and some proprietary +/- estimations that tell me what types of players get numbers with no impact and what players have impact with no numbers). But trust me I'm confident no one else is used to looking at long ass stat pages and making meaning of it like I am. I posted religiously on the PC board for a decade before I got banned, y'all know you're not interpreting stats like I can at the end of the day lol.

Edit: Also the game itself keeps certain stats under the covers. There's a lot of **** in the sim that you can't see as a player of the sim. You can see tendencies you can't see here, but I've found the stats that correlate with (for example) shooting percentages in the sim and they don't lineup with the FG ratings players have.

[E-Balla]

My observation is the sim seems to lag a year or two on raw production spikes or declines. This axiom has served me well but we shall see.

This going back to my first year with Pau who played like prime Pau in 2017. SGA this year when previous years would have supported a spike. Many others.

They literally base it solely off last year's numbers. You gotta find out exactly what numbers correlate to what but notice most of my predictions are on point. Some are way off, but it's never going to be 100% unless I actually was Gary lol.

As far as Pau goes he had a 22 PER and a 4.9 BPM in 2016. His peak PER is a 23 and his peak BPM is a 5.5. Yes he performed like prime Pau - statistically he was still just as good as in his prime according to the numbers they use.

When looking at whether or not a player will improve or decline I look at their production relative to their previous production. JB is having a down year in real life, he'll be lucky to not drop some in the sim.

[2010]

The beauty in all this is bichass sissy Hoffa is the biggest loser of all.

• Says Toronto is a treadmill

Toronto gets off the treadmill and commits to a 1-year rebuild

• Says the name of the game is championships, not participation trophies for repeated playoff appearances

Charlotte is assured to not become a champion and shall forever remain ringless (for as long as I am)

• Says Klay was a bad signing and I overpaid

Well he doesn’t deserve to play if he is that bad, so STFU about him resting

• Says I’m an unintelligent GM for acquiring Miles

His banishment put me on the path to commit to this one-off throwaway season. So according to that criteria, in hindsight it looks very smart to have taken the gamble to acquire him

[3toheadmelo]

I'll say this though when it comes to star ratings. Maybe their algorithm changed since then but when I won the chip I think my team had the most 4-5 stars in the league. I personally just build my team off players I like IRL and that approach has won me a two chips. Sounds like going forward Ima have to download the SIM like yall and study it

You're focusing on the star ratings of the players as opposed to the fit... Like yeah they had high star ratings, but even with lower star ratings they all fit together.

Buying the game won't help you. It's like y'all forget we gotta build rosters without knowing what next year's ratings will be. We don't know ratings until the season starts. I took big gambles on TJ Warren last year and Richaun Holmes this year and in both cases it didn't work out and my team lost players that were supposed to be a big part of my offensive success and scoring.

The reason I'm good at this is even before joining BaF I spent a lot of time on stats.NBA.com. Y'all can continue to not believe me when I say everything you need to dominate the sim is on there (supplemented by the wolverine studio forums giving me insight into the game, going through the history of BaF, and some proprietary +/- estimations that tell me what types of players get numbers with no impact and what players have impact with no numbers). But trust me I'm confident no one else is used to looking at long ass stat pages and making meaning of it like I am. I posted religiously on the PC board for a decade before I got banned, y'all know you're not interpreting stats like I can at the end of the day lol.

Edit: Also the game itself keeps certain stats under the covers. There's a lot of **** in the sim that you can't see as a player of the sim. You can see tendencies you can't see here, but I've found the stats that correlate with (for example) shooting percentages in the sim and they don't lineup with the FG ratings players have.

Of course we not gonna believe you Gary.

Im kidding but the gist of my post was mainly that the SIM is trending towards advanced stats and whatever other weird stats the SIM is using versus mainly off raw production IRL. Thats how I been building my team for years and of course making them fit together. But it doesnt seem like it works that way anymore. Tap me in with those advanced stats you studying.

[E-Balla]

I'll say this though when it comes to star ratings. Maybe their algorithm changed since then but when I won the chip I think my team had the most 4-5 stars in the league. I personally just build my team off players I like IRL and that approach has won me a two chips. Sounds like going forward Ima have to download the SIM like yall and study it

You're focusing on the star ratings of the players as opposed to the fit... Like yeah they had high star ratings, but even with lower star ratings they all fit together.

Buying the game won't help you. It's like y'all forget we gotta build rosters without knowing what next year's ratings will be. We don't know ratings until the season starts. I took big gambles on TJ Warren last year and Richaun Holmes this year and in both cases it didn't work out and my team lost players that were supposed to be a big part of my offensive success and scoring.

The reason I'm good at this is even before joining BaF I spent a lot of time on stats.NBA.com. Y'all can continue to not believe me when I say everything you need to dominate the sim is on there (supplemented by the wolverine studio forums giving me insight into the game, going through the history of BaF, and some proprietary +/- estimations that tell me what types of players get numbers with no impact and what players have impact with no numbers). But trust me I'm confident no one else is used to looking at long ass stat pages and making meaning of it like I am. I posted religiously on the PC board for a decade before I got banned, y'all know you're not interpreting stats like I can at the end of the day lol.

Edit: Also the game itself keeps certain stats under the covers. There's a lot of **** in the sim that you can't see as a player of the sim. You can see tendencies you can't see here, but I've found the stats that correlate with (for example) shooting percentages in the sim and they don't lineup with the FG ratings players have.

Of course we not gonna believe you Gary.

Im kidding but the gist of my post was mainly that the SIM is trending towards advanced stats and whatever other weird stats the SIM is using versus mainly off raw production IRL. Thats how I been building my team for years and of course making them fit together. But it doesnt seem like it works that way anymore. Tap me in with those advanced stats you studying.

All I can say is it is advanced stats, but it's the ones on NBA.com and the play style tendencies are probably the biggest part of it. PER and BPM aren't actually on nba.com but they're a good short hand for whether or not an individual player is going to go up or down. Hell there's a current free agent that used to be on my team I'm sure is probably still a great 3&D player in the sim based off his NBA.com metrics even though he's been out the league for a minute. I've been holding out on picking him up for now though lol. Maybe I'll pick him up before the playoffs.

[Fat]

Half of BAF: Now FatBoy, just admit this is wrong and we can move on

Spoiler:

Personally I see both sides but to get the draft capital and star power is impressive as hell

Can’t apologize for building my team the way I want. It takes a whole baf year to tank and tanking doesn’t guarantee you get what your expecting. But it gives me flexibility to make other moves in a scenario I trade the pick that’s about it.

I thought the whole point is to build what (YOU) like. why does how it gets done have to have some kind of punishment in achieving that. Everyone has there own strat

[E-Balla]

Also for full transparency I didn't have the sim my first year or last year. I do have it this year. I don't run moves into the sim or have the whole league rebuilt in the sim because I have a life and a job, I just use it because it's way easier to get my rotations in using screenshots of the sim as opposed to spending hours in that spreadsheet I had last year. It also makes it easier to see my schedule vs having to go back to last year and search through the thread. With all the full rotations I do I spent well over an extra hour messing with that spreadsheet and I realized at the start of this season I don't even work professionally for $60 an hour so I'll be damned if I don't buy the game and use a spreadsheet to save $60.

[Fat]

I was pissed when I saw capela with a 60 defense rating they did him dirty. Hopefully they bump it next season

[E-Balla]

If y'all want real info tho I'm selling it for lottery picks. Take it as the equivalent of sending a coach to a team for picks.

[3toheadmelo]

You're focusing on the star ratings of the players as opposed to the fit... Like yeah they had high star ratings, but even with lower star ratings they all fit together.

Buying the game won't help you. It's like y'all forget we gotta build rosters without knowing what next year's ratings will be. We don't know ratings until the season starts. I took big gambles on TJ Warren last year and Richaun Holmes this year and in both cases it didn't work out and my team lost players that were supposed to be a big part of my offensive success and scoring.

The reason I'm good at this is even before joining BaF I spent a lot of time on stats.NBA.com. Y'all can continue to not believe me when I say everything you need to dominate the sim is on there (supplemented by the wolverine studio forums giving me insight into the game, going through the history of BaF, and some proprietary +/- estimations that tell me what types of players get numbers with no impact and what players have impact with no numbers). But trust me I'm confident no one else is used to looking at long ass stat pages and making meaning of it like I am. I posted religiously on the PC board for a decade before I got banned, y'all know you're not interpreting stats like I can at the end of the day lol.

Edit: Also the game itself keeps certain stats under the covers. There's a lot of **** in the sim that you can't see as a player of the sim. You can see tendencies you can't see here, but I've found the stats that correlate with (for example) shooting percentages in the sim and they don't lineup with the FG ratings players have.

Of course we not gonna believe you Gary.

Im kidding but the gist of my post was mainly that the SIM is trending towards advanced stats and whatever other weird stats the SIM is using versus mainly off raw production IRL. Thats how I been building my team for years and of course making them fit together. But it doesnt seem like it works that way anymore. Tap me in with those advanced stats you studying.

All I can say is it is advanced stats, but it's the ones on NBA.com and the play style tendencies are probably the biggest part of it. PER and BPM aren't actually on nba.com but they're a good short hand for whether or not an individual player is going to go up or down. Hell there's a current free agent that used to be on my team I'm sure is probably still a great 3&D player in the sim based off his NBA.com metrics even though he's been out the league for a minute. I've been holding out on picking him up for now though lol. Maybe I'll pick him up before the playoffs.

Appreciate the free game

[Capn'O]

My observation is the sim seems to lag a year or two on raw production spikes or declines. This axiom has served me well but we shall see.

This going back to my first year with Pau who played like prime Pau in 2017. SGA this year when previous years would have supported a spike. Many others.

They literally base it solely off last year's numbers. You gotta find out exactly what numbers correlate to what but notice most of my predictions are on point. Some are way off, but it's never going to be 100% unless I actually was Gary lol.

As far as Pau goes he had a 22 PER and a 4.9 BPM in 2016. His peak PER is a 23 and his peak BPM is a 5.5. Yes he performed like prime Pau - statistically he was still just as good as in his prime according to the numbers they use.

When looking at whether or not a player will improve or decline I look at their production relative to their previous production. JB is having a down year in real life, he'll be lucky to not drop some in the sim.

In what world?

Scoring: up
Rebounds: up
Per: up
TS%: up
Usage: up
Blocks: up
Steals: flat

Only assists down.

Where are you getting this? I don't have any indication that they use rpm or anything of the like. Raw production seems tantamount.

[3toheadmelo]

My observation is the sim seems to lag a year or two on raw production spikes or declines. This axiom has served me well but we shall see.

This going back to my first year with Pau who played like prime Pau in 2017. SGA this year when previous years would have supported a spike. Many others.

They literally base it solely off last year's numbers. You gotta find out exactly what numbers correlate to what but notice most of my predictions are on point. Some are way off, but it's never going to be 100% unless I actually was Gary lol.

As far as Pau goes he had a 22 PER and a 4.9 BPM in 2016. His peak PER is a 23 and his peak BPM is a 5.5. Yes he performed like prime Pau - statistically he was still just as good as in his prime according to the numbers they use.

When looking at whether or not a player will improve or decline I look at their production relative to their previous production. JB is having a down year in real life, he'll be lucky to not drop some in the sim.

In what world?

Scoring: up
Rebounds: up
Per: up
TS%: up
Usage: up
Blocks: up
Steals: flat

Only assists down.

Where are you getting this?

Thats what im saying the SIM doesnt go off raw stats that much anymore so it's confusing. The SIM is heavily based on advanced stats now which is pretty wack and unrealstic but it is what it is

[2010]

KLAY THOMPSON

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[mpharris36]

Wtf how did Strick got a first for Keels???!!!!

Should be investigated for sure

2010 is a man of his word. This was part of a future consideration from way back that was owed to Minny.

This was before future considerations were basically abolished.

[mpharris36]

Crazy morning in baf.

It was just a matter of time before mph cashed in that wash pick. Good value and fair trade all around in that deal.

Thanks. They won't help this year but I have high hopes for Green and Alvarado in the SIM in the future. Both should be great additions as defensive minded roles players.

2010 was very on top of what I was looking for. If you weren't aware it was me after Robert Williams

Hes got legit chance to turn this around in just one year with the assets he acquired from me.

[2010]

This could all be solved if Wemby just sucks.

What if I told you the real target is Scoot!

[mpharris36]

This could all be solved if Wemby just sucks.

What if I told you the real target is Scoot!

Why not both???

[El Poochio]

Dont worry mp we will have Donte inbound the ball over Burks..

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[2010]

This could all be solved if Wemby just sucks.

What if I told you the real target is Scoot!

Why not both???

• 2023 Washington Wizards 1st (Wemby)
• 2023 Toronto Raptors 1st (Scoot)

[mpharris36]

Dont worry mp we will have Donte inbound the ball over Burks..

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I watched that game last night. Donte was a big difference maker! Looked really good.