cgf wrote:RHODEY wrote:cgf wrote:
DDV + Fournier for Lavine works. Would just need to solve our backup Center hole with someone cheap.
So you weaken our bench further for a high usage, injury prone, non defense playing player who doesn't really want to play in NY? Murray for Grimes +Fournier and just 2 picks would be cheaper and a better fit.
Murray's career USG is 23%, Lavine's is 27%. The last two seasons Murray has played in 74 & 68 games, Lavine has played in 77 & 67 games.
And Murray hasn't been any better than Lavine defensively in years, he's living off his reputation from early in his career. At this point Randle is a better defender than DJM.
The main differences are that Lavine is paid more but would cost less in trade...Grimes > DDV...and that Murray is a 34% 3pt shooter for his career with a TS of 52.6%, while Lavine is a career 38% 3pt shooter with a TS of 58%.
I guessI just have to respectfully disagree with you. I think Lavine is on a down trend and really was not all that impactful even when his offensive stats are good. But let's look at the
current state of both players:
Lavine has missed a ton of games this season. Not a good sign for a soon to be 29 year old who already had a serious injury.
Murray has shot better overall this season and much better from 3pt percentage 38% versus 33%. This is a
good sign as it shows an upward trend for a player focused on improvement.
For his entire career Lavine hasn't really done much else but score and even there he has't been doing a good job of that this season. Why would you want to sign on for that?
There is a reason why the trade market is cold for him. Why do you want to bail the Bulls out?
The main differences between the 2 players are defensive acumen (I know you disagree) and equally as important..play making.
Murray perfectly complements Brunson because he a Point guard who can play shooting guard. He's averaging over 5 assists while playing on the Hawks. Brunson visa versa. He'll allow Brunson to play off ball ....where as Lavine can't play point ....at all.
Lavine doe s not facilitate..again all he does is ...score...and again he's not doing that too well lately. So when I say he has much high usage, I'm factoring in his more selfish one dimensional play style.
And finally Grimes is not> Donte. Not right now... Have you been watching Donte dropping career highs with 90% percentile efficiency from the corner 3? You want to trade that away for the guy that nobody wants...why???