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Woj: Randle dislocated right shoulder UPDATE PG 23 - No Significant Damage

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Re: Woj: Randle dislocated right shoulder 

Post#81 » by Toine85 » Sun Jan 28, 2024 2:30 am

symbiotic wrote:You think the Pacers might be stupid enough to take 2 of our second round picks for Obi Toppin? :nod: :nod: :devil: :devil:

Doesn't hurt to try! I'm not sure if they would accept, because I can't think of anybody dumb enough to ever do that.

Nobody is coming to me at the moment.


Lol I know you are just being funny, but we cannot reacquire him this season.
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Post#83 » by mpharris36 » Sun Jan 28, 2024 2:34 am

the only good thing is we will know the severity prior to the deadline. Gives Leon and Co time to come up with a plan.

Sucky news regardless but it would even suck more if it happened a week after the trade deadline.
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Re: Woj: Randle dislocated right shoulder 

Post#84 » by The KnicksFix » Sun Jan 28, 2024 2:35 am

This is not a significant tear. He minutely tore the labrum, yes, but rehab will suffice. The doc spews a lot of everything in the tweet, but Randle will be back and rested in a month.
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Post#86 » by symbiotic » Sun Jan 28, 2024 2:41 am

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Guano wrote:These recovery times posted are concerning.


I'm torn between blaming the melo curse or all of you who have been trashing Randle. Either way we can't have nice things.

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Knicks fans with sense would realize that guys who routinely put up 25/10 do not grow on trees, and would have known this before injury imo. After Porzingis was a diva, Randle took over & mended it.
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Post#88 » by Kampuchea » Sun Jan 28, 2024 2:45 am

So what is the starting lineup? Hart? Precious?

The opposite of the season we signed too many power forwards.

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Re: Woj: Randle dislocated right shoulder 

Post#89 » by jvsimonetti0514 » Sun Jan 28, 2024 2:53 am

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Yeah, they might be forced to make some type of deal. Even if it’s just to get another ballhandler in.


I wonder how soon we’ll see a deal done? They were def going to do something but this forces their hands a lot sooner. I bet they cave and pony up whatever asset they’ve holding back.

The last thing me i dislocated my shoulder the doctor told me to let it rest for like 2/3 weeks before i even started PT cuz the swelling needed to go down. So even the best case scenario, he’s like 6 weeks away from playing.


If they can make a trade to get some help in here, I wouldn’t be opposed to letting Randle sit out until about 2 weeks before the playoffs. That’d hopefully get him enough time to heal, and keep him fresh, but still allow him to ramp up to get on rhythm for the post-season.


What would you do if you were the Knicks if Randle needs surgery and is out for the season. Do you stand pat or still make a move knowing he’s not coming back?
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Post#90 » by Chislic » Sun Jan 28, 2024 2:54 am

mpharris36 wrote:the only good thing is we will know the severity prior to the deadline. Gives Leon and Co time to come up with a plan.

Sucky news regardless but it would even suck more if it happened a week after the trade deadline.


AND All-Star break is not too far off. More time to recover.
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Re: Woj: Randle dislocated right shoulder 

Post#91 » by 2010 » Sun Jan 28, 2024 2:58 am

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I wonder how soon we’ll see a deal done? They were def going to do something but this forces their hands a lot sooner. I bet they cave and pony up whatever asset they’ve holding back.

The last thing me i dislocated my shoulder the doctor told me to let it rest for like 2/3 weeks before i even started PT cuz the swelling needed to go down. So even the best case scenario, he’s like 6 weeks away from playing.


If they can make a trade to get some help in here, I wouldn’t be opposed to letting Randle sit out until about 2 weeks before the playoffs. That’d hopefully get him enough time to heal, and keep him fresh, but still allow him to ramp up to get on rhythm for the post-season.


What would you do if you were the Knicks if Randle needs surgery and is out for the season. Do you stand pat or still make a move knowing he’s not coming back?


I’d make a move, as long as it doesn’t compromise our ability to be in position to trade our best assets for a star next offseason/trade deadline.

I’d also monitor the buyout market and be prepared to act aggressively.
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Re: Woj: Randle dislocated right shoulder 

Post#92 » by 2010 » Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:00 am

The KnicksFix wrote:This is not a significant tear. He minutely tore the labrum, yes, but rehab will suffice. The doc spews a lot of everything in the tweet, but Randle will be back and rested in a month.


How do you even know there’s been a labrum tear at any extent, if at all? I haven’t see any news of MRI results released.
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Post#93 » by NYKnickerbocker » Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:03 am

I’m scared of the Woj MRI tweet man. Plz be the best outcome for him lol. **** heat always taking one of our guys down
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Re: Woj: Randle dislocated right shoulder 

Post#94 » by K_ick_God » Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:03 am

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What you're seeing there is the shoulder sliding off the joint and in a downward position. It needs to be shoved back up and in. It's extremely painful but once it's back in place, it just sore for a few days. Acute injuries like this are much easier to treat than any chronic condition. In fact he should be back to 100%, which arguably for Julius isn't the 100% we need, but we'll put that aside for now.

The tear of a cartilage envelope around the shoulder, the labrum, makes the joint more likely to be unstable. But in Julius's case, it may not be significantly more unstable if he rehabs it and comes back this year. You strengthen and heal, and you get back stability. In other words, the labrum isn't necessarily needed for him to play without pain, but there are some risks of another subluxation involved, so sewing it back up is just safer.

He can perhaps do rehab now and surgery in the off-season, then come back by about the start of next year.

Unlike a ligament tear or a tendon tear, the cartilage tear of a labrum is not make or break. If it's not fully torn or unstable after he rehabs it, and he's got the advantage of a lot of muscle and professional PT, then he can play this season again and it may not affect his ability to play at 100%. There may be some risks, but then he can always get it sewn up later.

Problem is, if he has another injury, then you are getting into chronic versus acute. Two different partial tears at different times could be simply worse than him having a full tear now.

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Post#95 » by Fat Kat » Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:03 am

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Post#96 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:06 am

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The X-ray doesn't really matter since it was pretty obvious he didn't break anything, the MRI is what will the story.
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Re: Woj: Randle dislocated right shoulder 

Post#98 » by The KnicksFix » Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:18 am

2010 wrote:
The KnicksFix wrote:This is not a significant tear. He minutely tore the labrum, yes, but rehab will suffice. The doc spews a lot of everything in the tweet, but Randle will be back and rested in a month.


How do you even know there’s been a labrum tear at any extent, if at all? I haven’t see any news of MRI results released.


That’s what I’m saying. I’m a doc, and just looking at the injury, in my opinion I don’t think he tore the labrum. I’m saying IF anything, then the tear is minute. I think this is a dislocation which can be popped back in. I see him coming back after all star break.
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Re: Woj: Randle dislocated right shoulder 

Post#99 » by FrozenEnvelope » Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:19 am

Most likely it'll be a 3-5 weeks thing if there isn't any tears from what I've read. We can survive 3-5 weeks.
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Post#100 » by Fat Kat » Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:20 am

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The X-ray doesn't really matter since it was pretty obvious he didn't break anything, the MRI is what will the story.


The X-ray looks for bone fragments which would be significant.
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