cgmw wrote:stuporman wrote:cgmw wrote:I agree except to note that it’s actually a very useful heuristic that tends to hold true 99.9% of the time. It just so happens that Jalen appears to be in that 00.1% with (but not quite at) Steph.
That's terrible math you're working with there. If we look at the history of best players on their team that won titles we can look at the past handful of them and there are at clearly two of them that fall into this category, Curry and Jokic. So much so that Jokic was a second round pick!
That right there blows up your made up stat of 00.1%, Curry alone blows it up but I brought another example to pound the point home. It's forum fodder. That BS stat is more accurate if applied to players that looked the part but never fulfilled the part, there are hundreds of them and few do it.
Brunson has beaten that heuristic up in HS, in college and is well on his way to doing it in the NBA.
I know better than to get into a meaningless math argument with you, but if you think the existence of Brunson, Curry and Jokic means that there’s a a good statistical probability of becoming elite at basketball with sub-par athleticism, then I highly advise you to lace them up and get out there old man! Look at Lebron! It’s not too late!
Look, I’m complimenting the man. It is in fact true that just about every NBA player let alone superstar possesses absolutely elite physical attributes. We’ve seen plenty of exceptions in the past—multiple MVP Steve Nash comes to mind— but it’s still exceptionally rare. The cognitive shortcut to visibly identify humans likely good at basketball is not “stupid.” It is in fact a highly evolved function of the magical pre-frontal cortex, and probably for good reason.
It’s no knock on Jalen to point out his unusual body type to success ratio. If anything it’s a testament to his incredible mental game, hard work, and years of determination.
Did you know better than to completely make up a meaningless BS stat at the heart of your point? Apparently you didn't. The thing is the point the guy made in that clip was accurate and real but you countered it with something made up.
It does not matter probabilities and ratios of blah blah BS because all it takes is looking at the facts of the matter to realize those made up ratios you offered are actually false. You are conflating the average person's and the elite athlete's athleticism into one, your 'lace them up' comment as evidence.
The issue is that basketball Becky completely dismissed the possibility of Brunson being it by saying 'he can't be it'. She didn't say it's unlikely, or it's more difficult, or even I don't think he is good enough to beat the odds. She just said he can't be it because of some fake standard that just got disproven by Curry.
I don't think anybody is disputing it's more difficult or more unlikely, and there are plenty of us who will say he won't be able to beat those odds it as long as the wrong team is built around him, especially with a certain player, but will say could be it based on what we are seeing from him on the court.
That's the determining factor, what we are seeing from him on the court, not some filter in the mind that someone would use as a probability model. As someone who is paid to give commentary, she's allowed her opinion and anyone else is allowed to criticize it for whatever reason.
The reason many are is because of this filter logic she used to conclude her opinion instead of looking at his play and having a more nuanced reasoning for her opinion. You are welcome to join her in it if you like, just know someone will criticize that opinion, especially if it has a BS stat attached to it.
No arguments needed, explanation supplied.
But...on with the game.
If you'd rather see your team fail so you can be right
...you are a fan of your opinion not the team.
?Knowledge is just information stuffed into a mental bag
Wisdom is knowing what to pull out of the bag to do the job
RIP mags
