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Re: PG: Knicks vs Suns- 11/21/24 

Post#81 » by ctorres » Thu Nov 21, 2024 7:01 am

Context wrote:Ya'll forgot about Mikal:
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Suns- 11/21/24 

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Post#83 » by Context » Thu Nov 21, 2024 7:02 am

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Post#84 » by Context » Thu Nov 21, 2024 7:03 am

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Re: PG: Knicks vs Suns- 11/21/24 

Post#85 » by cgmw » Thu Nov 21, 2024 7:03 am

I was at this game in probably the best seats I’ve ever had to a basketball game. So close to the huddle that they prohibit video for the entire game and photos during timeouts.

Aside from my own euphoria from what felt like a childhood dream, here’s some takeaways:

• Thibs is a machine and the players are bought in;
• The vibes are so much better than last year even without Donte because KAT >>>> Randle as a human being;
• Rick is squarely the underboss in command of the troops;
•Son of Rick is one of the guys but exists on a higher level. Dude is a bad, bad man and everyone knows it/respects it. Booker got his 16th point when Jalen only had 15, and Jalen took it personal. He embarrassed Booker on his home court and is the unquestionable leader of this entire group;
• KAT is a hooper. Weird, corny, chill, but all about the nuance of hoops. Talented as could be, but definitely not an alpha personality;
• Brunson, Kolek, KAT and Josh put in the most pre-game shots;
•Josh is a dog. But we knew that.
•OG is a freak on d. But we knew that too.
•Mikal is corny AF but showered with love from Phoenix.
•Precious isn’t just with the team. He’s a vocal leader on the bench.
• Huk is going out of his way to be positive and involved but you can see it’s killing him to sit.
• Jericho is so quiet but obviously working hard and improving. Good rapport with Huk, and nice to see Jalen look for him on the PnR oop.
• Cam Payne has next-level weirdo energy and adds to the overall corniness of the group, but damn if he isn’t stepping up. Also he’s clearly trying to mentor Kolek;
• Deuce came out for some shots pre-game and was moving well.
• The replay guy is damn good. That sh*t is hard.

I don’t live in Phoenix. The last time I went to a game here, a brawl broke out with Greg Anthony in street clothes.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Suns- 11/21/24 

Post#86 » by ctorres » Thu Nov 21, 2024 7:04 am

Jalen Bluntson wrote:Did I mention....3 SEED IS OURS!!! KEEP IT ROLLING BOYS!!! We need to put some space between us and the teams behind us and, gain more ground on the Cavs and Celtics!


Orlando came back down to earth tonight. That roster is loaded with overachievers. What is their identity other than Banchero and Franz Wagner?
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Post#87 » by Gravy » Thu Nov 21, 2024 7:18 am

Watching KAT every game he is an amazing player to have on offense. Was he like this in Minny or did he get better here, because I think the trade would have been looked at more favorably at the time if he always played like this.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Suns- 11/21/24 

Post#88 » by Parraknick » Thu Nov 21, 2024 7:23 am

cgmw wrote:I was at this game in probably the best seats I’ve ever had to a basketball game. So close to the huddle that they prohibit video for the entire game and photos during timeouts.

Aside from my own euphoria from what felt like a childhood dream, here’s some takeaways:

• Thibs is a machine and the players are bought in;
• The vibes are so much better than last year even without Donte because KAT >>>> Randle as a human being;
• Rick is squarely the underboss in command of the troops;
•Son of Rick is one of the guys but exists on a higher level. Dude is a bad, bad man and everyone knows it/respects it. Booker got his 16th point when Jalen only had 15, and Jalen took it personal. He embarrassed Booker on his home court and is the unquestionable leader of this entire group;
• KAT is a hooper. Weird, corny, chill, but all about the nuance of hoops. Talented as could be, but definitely not an alpha personality;
• Brunson, Kolek, KAT and Josh put in the most pre-game shots;
•Josh is a dog. But we knew that.
•OG is a freak on d. But we knew that too.
•Mikal is corny AF but showered with love from Phoenix.
•Precious isn’t just with the team. He’s a vocal leader on the bench.
• Huk is going out of his way to be positive and involved but you can see it’s killing him to sit.
• Jericho is so quiet but obviously working hard and improving. Good rapport with Huk, and nice to see Jalen look for him on the PnR oop.
• Cam Payne has next-level weirdo energy and adds to the overall corniness of the group, but damn if he isn’t stepping up. Also he’s clearly trying to mentor Kolek;
• Deuce came out for some shots pre-game and was moving well.
• The replay guy is damn good. That sh*t is hard.

I don’t live in Phoenix. The last time I went to a game here, a brawl broke out with Greg Anthony in street clothes.



Very happy for you that you got to have that experience. Nice to get the insights right from the heart of it all!
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Suns- 11/21/24 

Post#89 » by DaGawd » Thu Nov 21, 2024 7:24 am

Gravy wrote:Watching KAT every game he is an amazing player to have on offense. Was he like this in Minny or did he get better here, because I think the trade would have been looked at more favorably at the time if he always played like this.

he did when he was at the 5 there, i’m weary of moving him to the 4 and starting mitch when he’s back for this reason
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Post#90 » by Parraknick » Thu Nov 21, 2024 7:26 am

Context wrote:Worth the listen:

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We were very lucky that Ihart left because it secured a experienced Kat!


Best post game interview I can recall. Great fella
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Post#91 » by Wildcat » Thu Nov 21, 2024 7:30 am

Gravy wrote:Watching KAT every game he is an amazing player to have on offense. Was he like this in Minny or did he get better here, because I think the trade would have been looked at more favorably at the time if he always played like this.


No. He's always been an efficient guy on offense, but he's upped his game a bit. Accepted Thibs' challenge at the C. Crime if he isn't the East's starting C at all star game.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Suns- 11/21/24 

Post#92 » by Wildcat » Thu Nov 21, 2024 7:31 am

I fell asleep on this one, but I'm loving Crawford from the minutes I listened to.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Suns- 11/21/24 

Post#93 » by Wildcat » Thu Nov 21, 2024 7:32 am

DaGawd wrote:
Gravy wrote:Watching KAT every game he is an amazing player to have on offense. Was he like this in Minny or did he get better here, because I think the trade would have been looked at more favorably at the time if he always played like this.

he did when he was at the 5 there, i’m weary of moving him to the 4 and starting mitch when he’s back for this reason


At this point, zero chance Hart is benched.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Suns- 11/21/24 

Post#94 » by Wildcat » Thu Nov 21, 2024 7:33 am

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Jalen Bluntson wrote:Did I mention....3 SEED IS OURS!!! KEEP IT ROLLING BOYS!!! We need to put some space between us and the teams behind us and, gain more ground on the Cavs and Celtics!


Orlando came back down to earth tonight. That roster is loaded with overachievers. What is their identity other than Banchero and Franz Wagner?


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Re: PG: Knicks vs Suns- 11/21/24 

Post#95 » by The KnicksFix » Thu Nov 21, 2024 7:33 am

DaGawd wrote:
Gravy wrote:Watching KAT every game he is an amazing player to have on offense. Was he like this in Minny or did he get better here, because I think the trade would have been looked at more favorably at the time if he always played like this.

he did when he was at the 5 there, i’m weary of moving him to the 4 and starting mitch when he’s back for this reason


With the way he’s looking, and if the defense can keep picking up, maybe we don’t need to move him to the 5, the whole team is starting to pick up defense.
Also, I’ve seen him do it in Minny, prior to ANT being drafted, but he looks more polished now. His scoring is quick, efficient, and he makes quick decisions when getting the ball, it’s either pass, shoot, or drive once in the triple threat. He is no joke now, all gas no brakes.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Suns- 11/21/24 

Post#96 » by SOUL » Thu Nov 21, 2024 7:38 am

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Jalen Bluntson wrote:Did I mention....3 SEED IS OURS!!! KEEP IT ROLLING BOYS!!! We need to put some space between us and the teams behind us and, gain more ground on the Cavs and Celtics!


Orlando came back down to earth tonight. That roster is loaded with overachievers. What is their identity other than Banchero and Franz Wagner?


huh, if there's one thing we have it's identity, our defense has been top 3 for two years. Our shooting is just so up and down that there are games where we just do not have any firepower, especially without our best player

Knicks looking scary with the starters clicking finally. KAT/Brunson might be a top offensive duo in the league
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Suns- 11/21/24 

Post#97 » by RandlesCornrows » Thu Nov 21, 2024 7:56 am

Special group..

I’ve been saying to put Josh on the bench and Start Mitch when he’s back… but nah, you gotta have a bench of Payne-McBride-Precious-Robinson and situational moments of Ryan, Kolek, Dadiet, Sims/Hukporti

Keep that starling rotation the same and stagger the bench.

Will be a very difficult team to beat in a 7 game series
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Suns- 11/21/24 

Post#98 » by The KnicksFix » Thu Nov 21, 2024 8:20 am

RandlesCornrows wrote:Special group..

I’ve been saying to put Josh on the bench and Start Mitch when he’s back… but nah, you gotta have a bench of Payne-McBride-Precious-Robinson and situational moments of Ryan, Kolek, Dadiet, Sims/Hukporti

Keep that starling rotation the same and stagger the bench.

Will be a very difficult team to beat in a 7 game series


That bench unit is a starting lineup lol, each of them have been starters
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Suns- 11/21/24 

Post#99 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Nov 21, 2024 8:41 am

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DaGawd wrote:
Gravy wrote:Watching KAT every game he is an amazing player to have on offense. Was he like this in Minny or did he get better here, because I think the trade would have been looked at more favorably at the time if he always played like this.

he did when he was at the 5 there, i’m weary of moving him to the 4 and starting mitch when he’s back for this reason


With the way he’s looking, and if the defense can keep picking up, maybe we don’t need to move him to the 5, the whole team is starting to pick up defense.
Also, I’ve seen him do it in Minny, prior to ANT being drafted, but he looks more polished now. His scoring is quick, efficient, and he makes quick decisions when getting the ball, it’s either pass, shoot, or drive once in the triple threat. He is no joke now, all gas no brakes.

Against the Nets, Wiz, and depleted Suns teams. We really haven’t been tested recently. But we have to beat up on the lower ranked teams. I still think we need to get healthy before we see the ceiling of what this team can do.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Suns- 11/21/24 

Post#100 » by Butch718 » Thu Nov 21, 2024 9:01 am

Maybe it’s because I never really watched many Wolves games, I just never realized how good KAT was at being able to put the ball on the floor and driving to the hoop. To have a 7 footer that’s able to shoot the way he does, while being able to take opposing centers off the dribble, just makes this offense so dynamic. His back go the back game is also very good.

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