Official Rap/Hip Hop Thread IV

[Phish Tank]

On first listen, Compton is pretty damn good.

It was very meh to me. I'm really disappointed but maybe it's because I was expecting a classic...

I tempered my expectations years ago. I knew he was probably never topping 2001 even when Detox was first rumored and when it never happened/ the tracks that were supposedly from it were underwhelming I dropped my expectations more. It's a pretty good rap album with good production and some nice guest appearances. It's definitely not a classic by any means but it's good for what it is. I really wasn't expecting anything better to be honest and I think the fact that nobody really knew this existed until a few days ago didn't allow me to get too hyped up with anticipation. The way I look at it, it's a Dre album that sounds pretty good and has some nice features. It's good enough for me considering it didn't look like we'd ever get one.

this album can't be compared to 2001 or Chronic. This album is a concept album -> no singles. You have to understand it as a whole... it's why there are people who still don't like Kendrick because they either don't understand the lyrics or because there isn't many prototypical "singles."

This album is perfectly mastered and paints a grand message of Compton -> the overarching theme of the album. If you're looking for some "classics" with singles, you won't find it on this album.

[kane2021]

When Scott Storch stood up for himself and demanded he start getting credit for the beats he was ghost producing for dre things started to fall apart. Storch was able to break free and blew up. (then fell off) Big Chuck who was an A&R for aftermath, who's job was to find producers to make beats under dre's name got mad and started his own company shortly after. Big Chuck worked with Big Daddy Kane is the 80's.

He took Mel Man, (who was one of the main producers for dre with storch during 2001) Eric B, (from eric b and rakim,... he was a producer for dre) and Neff U a young up and coming producer who did allot of eminems work, and the beer commercials. Neff U was supposed to be the next generation guy for dre's sound. He also took "Punch" an in house ghost writer for aftermath.He also took Stat Quo with him. Stat Quo was assigned the responsibility of writing dre's verses for detox.

Im just guessing,... but I would have to assume that Neff U was going to be the producer of detox. Sense he was the last guy doing the last of aftermaths beats. He started on 50's album. Coors commercials. Eminem.

After Big Chuck formed his company with these guys, he went to aftermath and took hundreds of demos belonging to his new artists that Dre had yet to go through. Again im just assuming this next part,... but I would guess that these demos were the bulk of what was to be detox.

It had been rumored for awhile that dre's team was fed up with not getting credit for their work. Storch was responsible was that early 2000 sound that was attached to dre. Some of the biggest hits with dre's name on it was storch. Mel Man did a lot of the early work. He did some work on 2001 and he also demanded a credit for his contributions. When he got that, and storch is the guy making the hits, storch wanted out. He went on to become one of the biggest producers of that era. Then he got hooked on fame and drugs, went broke and fell off.

Big Chuck sealed the deal on dres fate when he took all his disgruntled employes and started a company where they get credit for their work. And this left dre with almost nothing for detox. Only left overs. The album got shelved. If you notice,... the coors commercials stopped too. Dre moved onto other business ventures.

[delvec19]

How many tracks does Dre actually rap on?

[IllmaticHandler]

DRE is one of the most overrated cats of all time.

[j4remi]

Drake would get washed up by Kendrick easily.

IDK because I was saying both Meek and Common would wash Drake too and he held his own with Common (still loss) and is bodying Meek. Drake can rap when he wants to.

I think Kendrick's gotten the best of the subliminals so far. The nothing was the same bars at the bet cypher were on one. Kendrick's not as easy a target as Meek was and Drake can't use the "you're doing it for promotion" angle he hit Common with. That's a back and forth I'd like to see get serious.

[IllmaticHandler]

Drake is not an animal on the mic. Kendrick is. It would not even be fair toe to toe. Kendrick would son drake like there is not tomo. Drake cant even say anything much about kendrick, nor does he have as much technical skill.

[E-Balla]

Drake would get washed up by Kendrick easily.

IDK because I was saying both Meek and Common would wash Drake too and he held his own with Common (still loss) and is bodying Meek. Drake can rap when he wants to.

I think Kendrick's gotten the best of the subliminals so far. The nothing was the same bars at the bet cypher were on one. Kendrick's not as easy a target as Meek was and Drake can't use the "you're doing it for promotion" angle he hit Common with. That's a back and forth I'd like to see get serious.

Of course he's gotten the best of the subliminals Drake hasn't addressed Kendrick at all in any songs. And he does still have the "you're doing it for promotion" angle. Kendrick sells but IYRTITL will outsell GKMC by the time TPAB is platinum and he only goes platinum. I mean TPAB hasn't hit the sales of So Far Gone yet and that's an EP that everyone got as a mixtape already by the time it came out.

[Knicksfan1992]

I've always gotten flack for this but, I thought Control was a b*tch move by Kendrick. Don't get me wrong it was a hot verse and the fan in me liked it but, at the same time I was happy dudes like Meek responded. Miss me with the bull that it's just rap and he meant nothing personal about it. Yet, you're going to call me out by name in a song and say you want to end my career. Nah eff that I always agreed with Drizzy on that situation and always will. It seemed like more of an attention grab then anything. One of the few b*tch things Kendrick has ever done.

[KingofNYC30]

IDK because I was saying both Meek and Common would wash Drake too and he held his own with Common (still loss) and is bodying Meek. Drake can rap when he wants to.

I think Kendrick's gotten the best of the subliminals so far. The nothing was the same bars at the bet cypher were on one. Kendrick's not as easy a target as Meek was and Drake can't use the "you're doing it for promotion" angle he hit Common with. That's a back and forth I'd like to see get serious.

Of course he's gotten the best of the subliminals Drake hasn't addressed Kendrick at all in any songs. And he does still have the "you're doing it for promotion" angle. Kendrick sells but IYRTITL will outsell GKMC by the time TPAB is platinum and he only goes platinum. I mean TPAB hasn't hit the sales of So Far Gone yet and that's an EP that everyone got as a mixtape already by the time it came out.

Is that really you Aubrey??

[IllmaticHandler]

I've always gotten flack for this but, I thought Control was a b*tch move by Kendrick. Don't get me wrong it was a hot verse and the fan in me liked it but, at the same time I was happy dudes like Meek responded. Miss me with the bull that it's just rap and he meant nothing personal about it. Yet, you're going to call me out by name in a song and say you want to end my career. Nah eff that I always agreed with Drizzy on that situation and always will. It seemed like more of an attention grab then anything. One of the few b*tch things Kendrick has ever done.

how is challenging your peers is a bitch move? im not even a fan of kendrick like that, but thats hip hop. **** all the friendly ****.

[Knicksfan1992]

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New track may be coming today stay tuned.

[KingofNYC30]

I've always gotten flack for this but, I thought Control was a b*tch move by Kendrick. Don't get me wrong it was a hot verse and the fan in me liked it but, at the same time I was happy dudes like Meek responded. Miss me with the bull that it's just rap and he meant nothing personal about it. Yet, you're going to call me out by name in a song and say you want to end my career. Nah eff that I always agreed with Drizzy on that situation and always will. It seemed like more of an attention grab then anything. One of the few b*tch things Kendrick has ever done.

Control was something that hip hop needed. Hip hop has gotten a little better since then. The only thing I didn't like is that he said that he's the King of NY, but at the same time he was looking for NY to step it's game up. In my opinion, Drake shouldn't be mentioned in the same token as Kendrick. Drake only cares about himself and saving h**s while Kendrick cares more about the culture and the people.

And one writes his bars while the other doesn't write some of his verses.. I can't respect that..

[Knicksfan1992]

I've always gotten flack for this but, I thought Control was a b*tch move by Kendrick. Don't get me wrong it was a hot verse and the fan in me liked it but, at the same time I was happy dudes like Meek responded. Miss me with the bull that it's just rap and he meant nothing personal about it. Yet, you're going to call me out by name in a song and say you want to end my career. Nah eff that I always agreed with Drizzy on that situation and always will. It seemed like more of an attention grab then anything. One of the few b*tch things Kendrick has ever done.

how is challenging your peers is a bitch move? im not even a fan of kendrick like that, but thats hip hop. **** all the friendly ****.

It's a b*tch move because he qualified everything by saying it's not personal still trying to be friendly and stuff but putting my name out there... If he just wanted to be hip-hop villains I would have felt it more. It was like saying with all due respect and then completely disrespecting someone.. That's at least how I felt about it.

[Knicksfan1992]

And also Kendrick stans always say if you make a reply to Control then you didn't get the point of the record... The fuq does that mean? You say my name in a track it's verbal war homie. Miss me with the pseudo higher intellectual bullchit that some Kendrick stans get on sometimes. I love the dude but, I think that's nonsense that you can drop control and then be considered untouchable in a response.

[KingofNYC30]

I've always gotten flack for this but, I thought Control was a b*tch move by Kendrick. Don't get me wrong it was a hot verse and the fan in me liked it but, at the same time I was happy dudes like Meek responded. Miss me with the bull that it's just rap and he meant nothing personal about it. Yet, you're going to call me out by name in a song and say you want to end my career. Nah eff that I always agreed with Drizzy on that situation and always will. It seemed like more of an attention grab then anything. One of the few b*tch things Kendrick has ever done.

how is challenging your peers is a bitch move? im not even a fan of kendrick like that, but thats hip hop. **** all the friendly ****.

It's a b*tch move because he qualified everything by saying it's not personal still trying to be friendly and stuff but putting my name out there... If he just wanted to be hip-hop villains I would have felt it more. It was like saying with all due respect and then completely disrespecting someone.. That's at least how I felt about it.

Hip hop is a competitive sport. Look at early battles such as Kool Moe Dee vs Busy Bee or BDP vs Juice Crew.. It's just competition, the media and other forces makes it look negative.

[KingofNYC30]

And also Kendrick stans always say if you make a reply to Control then you didn't get the point of the record... The fuq does that mean? You say my name in a track it's verbal war homie. Miss me with the pseudo higher intellectual bullchit that some Kendrick stans get on sometimes. I love the dude but, I think that's nonsense that you can drop control and then be considered untouchable in a response.

Kendrick wanted cats to respond to him. What are you talking about?

[Knicksfan1992]

And also Kendrick stans always say if you make a reply to Control then you didn't get the point of the record... The fuq does that mean? You say my name in a track it's verbal war homie. Miss me with the pseudo higher intellectual bullchit that some Kendrick stans get on sometimes. I love the dude but, I think that's nonsense that you can drop control and then be considered untouchable in a response.

Kendrick wanted cats to respond to him. What are you talking about?

I'm not saying he didn't, but people declared everyone who did as losing for responding because it wasn't meant to be a "diss record" in most peoples eyes. Fuq kinda world do we live in where a dude can say my name on a track and I automatically lose because I don't get the point of the record?

[Knicksfan1992]

Also the effect of Control was greatly overstated. Dudes like Kid Ink and Tyga are still getting heavy air play

[j4remi]

Of course he's gotten the best of the subliminals Drake hasn't addressed Kendrick at all in any songs. And he does still have the "you're doing it for promotion" angle. Kendrick sells but IYRTITL will outsell GKMC by the time TPAB is platinum and he only goes platinum. I mean TPAB hasn't hit the sales of So Far Gone yet and that's an EP that everyone got as a mixtape already by the time it came out.

Yes he did and it's common knowledge

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eue9YWIdz1s[/youtube]

Kendrick just dusted him.

Edit: And before we get some disclaimer like it wasn't aimed at Kendrick even TDE heads commented on it basically saying "that's all you got?"

[E-Balla]

Of course he's gotten the best of the subliminals Drake hasn't addressed Kendrick at all in any songs. And he does still have the "you're doing it for promotion" angle. Kendrick sells but IYRTITL will outsell GKMC by the time TPAB is platinum and he only goes platinum. I mean TPAB hasn't hit the sales of So Far Gone yet and that's an EP that everyone got as a mixtape already by the time it came out.

Yes he did and it's common knowledge

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eue9YWIdz1s[/youtube]

Kendrick just dusted him.

Oh yeah Honestly had no idea about this until Greenie told me it was about Dot last week. Yeah it most definitely wasn't Stay Schemin level.