Official Melo Trade Thread: WOJ BOMB UPDATE PG 21: Will Waive NTC for HOU and CLE

[Capn'O]

There is not a violin tiny enough to express my sympathy

[Sark]

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Whoever she is, or whoever feels the same, I implore them to stop being Knicks fans.

[Bill Pidto]

Still talking **** and trying to punish Melo in here.

I hope you all catch hell at work. Disgraceful.

f*ck melo

Fuq obese people...

It's funny, I've actually always pictured you to be a fat slob.

But hey.. seriously.. you really shouldn't ever get on your high horse again and complain about people violating rules and attacking you personally if you're gonna run around here dropping rude comments like that.

For all the stuff you and other posters get upset with me about, I never insult other posters that harshly. Luckily Fatboy has thick skin (no pun intended) and a good sense of humor, so I know he's not crying about it like you would if the shoe were on the other foot.

[Jeffrey]

This is better than Manny Pac vs. Joe Horn's fight. It's the Melo vs. Knicks fight now.

[VirginiaKnickFan]

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2017/07/03/schmeelk-carmelo-anthony-trade-teams/

What seemed impossible just a couple weeks ago might now be possible: The Knicks might actually be able to find a landing spot for Carmelo Anthony.

The great and powerful Adrian Wojnarowski, now with ESPN, reported Sunday that Anthony would be willing to accept a trade to either the Cleveland Cavaliers or Houston Rockets.

Unfortunately for the Knicks, neither the Rockets nor the Cavaliers have anything resembling the assets the Knicks desire. The Rockets understandably want to unload the contract of Ryan Anderson, who would play a role similar to Anthony in Mike D’Antoni’s offense. Anderson has three years and $61.3 million left on his contract, making him more of a toxic asset than someone desirable.

The Cavaliers have only one truly tradable asset: Kevin Love. The contracts and skill-sets of Tristan Thompson, J.R. Smith and Iman Shumpert make them all undesirable. It does not appear the Cavaliers want to deal Love for Anthony, but even if they did, the three years and $70 million left on Love’s deal don’t exactly make him attractive for a rebuilding team such as the Knicks.

It means the Knicks are going to have to find a third team to get involved in the process to get either one of these trades done. New York’s only goal should be to acquire young players or draft picks in any deal. If they have to take on a contract of two or fewer seasons to also get those types of assets, it is worth the bang for the buck. The Knicks are going to have to get creative, and it won’t be easy. Here are some teams who could get in the mix to make a trade like that happen:

Portland Trail Blazers: I saw Moke Hamilton of Basketball Insiders first mention the Blazers, and it makes sense. They are in luxury-cap hell with $132 million committed to players this season. If the Blazers are willing to take on Anderson’s deal, the Knicks could take back two of their bad contracts — some combination of Maurice Harkless and either Evan Turner or Allen Crabbe — to alleviate that stress. Since the Knicks would be taking such a huge salary dump (Harkless has three years, $30 million remaining, Turner three years, $53 million and Crabbe three years, $56 million), the Blazers would have to really sweeten the pot with a future draft pick and another young asset. The Lakers had to trade D’Angelo Russell to dump Timofey Mozgov. Portland might not agree to a package that strong, but the Knicks could at least inquire. You might be able to find a deal here somewhere, but the Knicks should be leery of taking on a big-money, three-year deal since it would negatively affect their cap for so long. They need something substantial back.

Boston Celtics: Boston becomes interesting again whether or not they lose out Gordon Hayward. They still have a ton of assets. They already lost out on Paul George and Jimmy Butler, which would theoretically make them open to trying to add another star to the team in an attempt to come out of the Eastern Conference this season. The only way the Celtics would be interested in Anthony directly is if Hayward re-signs with the Jazz. With George and Butler already moved, there would be no shooters left of interest to the Celtics. The return would not be huge. The Knicks would hope for Jae Crowder and one of the protected or late first-round picks the Celtics have. Boston can also just take Anthony into their space.

If the Celtics land Hayward, they might want to re-engage for a chance to land Love. If the Cavs are open to an Anthony-for-Love swap, a three-way deal could get done. The Cavs would receive Anthony and another player they desire from the Celtics – someone from the group of Marcus Smart, Avery Bradley and Crowder. The Celtics would get Love, and the Knicks would get some kind of combination of future picks and young players from the Celtics. If Boston still wants Love and the Cavs decide they prefer Anthony to him, this could work.

Phoenix Suns: This is something a few of my Twitter followers brought up to me. I don’t think it makes sense for the Suns, but if they are that desperate to move one of their guards — Eric Bledsoe or Brandon Knight — it could work. In this deal, the Cavs would once again have to be willing to swap Love for Anthony. The Suns would take on Love’s deal, while the Knicks would take back either Bledsoe or Knight. New York would also try to get a future pick from the Suns, and the Cavs could try to get another role player to assist a possible championship run. If I’m the Suns, I want to rebuild and wouldn’t do this . But it depends on the front office.

As you can see, the Knicks are still going to be very hard-pressed to find a taker for Anthony. His contract, no-trade clause, trade kicker and deteriorating defense and athleticism make him very hard to move.

[Rasho Brezec]

This thread took an interesting turn.

[mw74rew]

Three team trade: Knicks, Cleveland and Boston
Boston to Knicks: Crowder, Bradley, Jordan Mickey and two first round picks to Knicks
Knicks to Cleveland: Melo
Cleveland to Boston: Love

[god shammgod]

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2017/07/03/schmeelk-carmelo-anthony-trade-teams/

What seemed impossible just a couple weeks ago might now be possible: The Knicks might actually be able to find a landing spot for Carmelo Anthony.

The great and powerful Adrian Wojnarowski, now with ESPN, reported Sunday that Anthony would be willing to accept a trade to either the Cleveland Cavaliers or Houston Rockets.

Unfortunately for the Knicks, neither the Rockets nor the Cavaliers have anything resembling the assets the Knicks desire. The Rockets understandably want to unload the contract of Ryan Anderson, who would play a role similar to Anthony in Mike D’Antoni’s offense. Anderson has three years and $61.3 million left on his contract, making him more of a toxic asset than someone desirable.

The Cavaliers have only one truly tradable asset: Kevin Love. The contracts and skill-sets of Tristan Thompson, J.R. Smith and Iman Shumpert make them all undesirable. It does not appear the Cavaliers want to deal Love for Anthony, but even if they did, the three years and $70 million left on Love’s deal don’t exactly make him attractive for a rebuilding team such as the Knicks.

It means the Knicks are going to have to find a third team to get involved in the process to get either one of these trades done. New York’s only goal should be to acquire young players or draft picks in any deal. If they have to take on a contract of two or fewer seasons to also get those types of assets, it is worth the bang for the buck. The Knicks are going to have to get creative, and it won’t be easy. Here are some teams who could get in the mix to make a trade like that happen:

Portland Trail Blazers: I saw Moke Hamilton of Basketball Insiders first mention the Blazers, and it makes sense. They are in luxury-cap hell with $132 million committed to players this season. If the Blazers are willing to take on Anderson’s deal, the Knicks could take back two of their bad contracts — some combination of Maurice Harkless and either Evan Turner or Allen Crabbe — to alleviate that stress. Since the Knicks would be taking such a huge salary dump (Harkless has three years, $30 million remaining, Turner three years, $53 million and Crabbe three years, $56 million), the Blazers would have to really sweeten the pot with a future draft pick and another young asset. The Lakers had to trade D’Angelo Russell to dump Timofey Mozgov. Portland might not agree to a package that strong, but the Knicks could at least inquire. You might be able to find a deal here somewhere, but the Knicks should be leery of taking on a big-money, three-year deal since it would negatively affect their cap for so long. They need something substantial back.

Boston Celtics: Boston becomes interesting again whether or not they lose out Gordon Hayward. They still have a ton of assets. They already lost out on Paul George and Jimmy Butler, which would theoretically make them open to trying to add another star to the team in an attempt to come out of the Eastern Conference this season. The only way the Celtics would be interested in Anthony directly is if Hayward re-signs with the Jazz. With George and Butler already moved, there would be no shooters left of interest to the Celtics. The return would not be huge. The Knicks would hope for Jae Crowder and one of the protected or late first-round picks the Celtics have. Boston can also just take Anthony into their space.

If the Celtics land Hayward, they might want to re-engage for a chance to land Love. If the Cavs are open to an Anthony-for-Love swap, a three-way deal could get done. The Cavs would receive Anthony and another player they desire from the Celtics – someone from the group of Marcus Smart, Avery Bradley and Crowder. The Celtics would get Love, and the Knicks would get some kind of combination of future picks and young players from the Celtics. If Boston still wants Love and the Cavs decide they prefer Anthony to him, this could work.

Phoenix Suns: This is something a few of my Twitter followers brought up to me. I don’t think it makes sense for the Suns, but if they are that desperate to move one of their guards — Eric Bledsoe or Brandon Knight — it could work. In this deal, the Cavs would once again have to be willing to swap Love for Anthony. The Suns would take on Love’s deal, while the Knicks would take back either Bledsoe or Knight. New York would also try to get a future pick from the Suns, and the Cavs could try to get another role player to assist a possible championship run. If I’m the Suns, I want to rebuild and wouldn’t do this . But it depends on the front office.

As you can see, the Knicks are still going to be very hard-pressed to find a taker for Anthony. His contract, no-trade clause, trade kicker and deteriorating defense and athleticism make him very hard to move.

this guy sounds like a realgm poster. melo only wants cavs or rockets. they have nothing for the knicks. let me mention a bunch of other teams for no reason.

[Tron Carter]

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why even post these?

[Thugger HBC]

It will probably take close to four team to get Melo moved and a deal package back that is suitable. Mills doesn't need to fold on this one. Melo is certainly feeling the pressure now.

Oan, I hope they aren't really laughing at his am workout. That's low if so.

[Capn'O]

Three team trade: Knicks, Cleveland and Boston
Boston to Knicks: Crowder, Bradley, Jordan Mickey and two first round picks to Knicks
Knicks to Cleveland: Melo
Cleveland to Boston: Love

Cleveland might have some words. On our end

[HEZI]

Three team trade: Knicks, Cleveland and Boston
Boston to Knicks: Crowder, Bradley, Jordan Mickey and two first round picks to Knicks
Knicks to Cleveland: Melo
Cleveland to Boston: Love

We know Ainge is not doing that

[EchelonNYK]

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why even post these?

I'm a terrible person. Duh.

[Rasho Brezec]

I love Steve Mills. Stay your course and don't trade for anyone over the age of 25.

[Tron Carter]

f*ck melo

Fuq obese people...

It's funny, I've actually always pictured you to be a fat slob.

But hey.. seriously.. you really shouldn't ever get on your high horse again and complain about people violating rules and attacking you personally if you're gonna run around here dropping rude comments like that.

For all the stuff you and other posters get upset with me about, I never insult other posters that harshly. Luckily Fatboy has thick skin (no pun intended) and a good sense of humor, so I know he's not crying about it like you would if the shoe were on the other foot.

dude you are pa-the-tic. wow

[HarthorneWingo]

f*ck melo

Fuq obese people...

It's funny, I've actually always pictured you to be a fat slob.

But hey.. seriously.. you really shouldn't ever get on your high horse again and complain about people violating rules and attacking you personally if you're gonna run around here dropping rude comments like that.

For all the stuff you and other posters get upset with me about, I never insult other posters that harshly. Luckily Fatboy has thick skin (no pun intended) and a good sense of humor, so I know he's not crying about it like you would if the shoe were on the other foot.

She said I had Alzheimers.

Really hurt my feelings too.

[bmurph128]

Three team trade: Knicks, Cleveland and Boston
Boston to Knicks: Crowder, Bradley, Jordan Mickey and two first round picks to Knicks
Knicks to Cleveland: Melo
Cleveland to Boston: Love

Cleveland might have some words. On our end

Yep.

We'll take Crowder and Bradley. You keep the picks and also take Frye and Shumpert.

Celtics get Love.

[battabing10]

Better to make no trade than be in another losing trade. He has a NTC but that doesn't mean he needs to be involved next season. He should be told he is coming off the bench and he can advertise his wares that way until the right deal comes along for the Knicks. If he goes Towelbury then that is fine. The Melo Era is officially over regardless.

[Bklyn&company]

Three team trade: Knicks, Cleveland and Boston
Boston to Knicks: Crowder, Bradley, Jordan Mickey and two first round picks to Knicks
Knicks to Cleveland: Melo
Cleveland to Boston: Love

Ballboy... stop it!... smh

[Thugger HBC]

There is not a violin tiny enough to express my sympathy