TheGreenArrow wrote:F N 11 wrote:Entire team is selfless wow
I honestly feel this team can win the chip!!!!

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TheGreenArrow wrote:F N 11 wrote:Entire team is selfless wow
I honestly feel this team can win the chip!!!!

Reign23 wrote:I see us as the 7th or 8th seed which is really good imo.
better team than last season, but things won't break our way like last year. impossible.
mpharris36 wrote:
looking at other teams it seems to be an NBA wide thing. I guess the sponsors required bigger patches so people could see them more clearly. They look awful but the NBA is just trying to grab money here and doesn't care about the aesthetics obviously.

He will be someone you have to put a body on for sure, but that's Capela level impact not young Shaq.Clyde_Style wrote:prophet_of_rage wrote:Young Shaq was mobile and had a jump hook. His offence was nothing like Mitch's. Shaq you could throw to for a post up.HighRyzer83 wrote:Agreed on his defensive impact. He covers so much ground it's insane. But I think his offensive liability is mostly a myth. A young Shaq scored on nothing but rebounds and dunks. They also said he was offensively limited, despite doubling the points of the killed and finessed variety. Not saying it's the same talent level but true in concept.
Mitch isn't a post up threat. He's a lob threat. So you need penetrative to make him a scoring threat. Which means he'll only really score if a ballhandler is doubled and can find him. He needs to be spoon fed.
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He’s a massive second chance put back threat too which does impact team offensive efficiency. He set the record for Fg% record because of it for crying out loud. And that kind of threat makes it very hard on opposing defenses if you have perimeter scorers they must cover. They can’t pack the paint or board as well which amplifies Mitch’s value down low. Watch what happens now that we will have multiple legit shooters on the floor at all times. Mitch on offense will be a bigger threat without him leaving the paint. Yeah, rim runner is a bigger weapon now that the roster is balancing out
mpharris36 wrote:
looking at other teams it seems to be an NBA wide thing. I guess the sponsors required bigger patches so people could see them more clearly. They look awful but the NBA is just trying to grab money here and doesn't care about the aesthetics obviously.
prophet_of_rage wrote:He will be someone you have to put a body on for sure, but that's Capela level impact not young Shaq.Clyde_Style wrote:prophet_of_rage wrote:Young Shaq was mobile and had a jump hook. His offence was nothing like Mitch's. Shaq you could throw to for a post up.
Mitch isn't a post up threat. He's a lob threat. So you need penetrative to make him a scoring threat. Which means he'll only really score if a ballhandler is doubled and can find him. He needs to be spoon fed.
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He’s a massive second chance put back threat too which does impact team offensive efficiency. He set the record for Fg% record because of it for crying out loud. And that kind of threat makes it very hard on opposing defenses if you have perimeter scorers they must cover. They can’t pack the paint or board as well which amplifies Mitch’s value down low. Watch what happens now that we will have multiple legit shooters on the floor at all times. Mitch on offense will be a bigger threat without him leaving the paint. Yeah, rim runner is a bigger weapon now that the roster is balancing out
We are absolutely copying the Hawks.
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HerSports85 wrote:
The Hawks poked holes in the attack; not just because it was prone to stagnant moments but also because it lacked multiformity. Randle was the team’s main source of scoring, and he would create in sometimes predictable ways. The Knicks were the NBA’s fourth-most isolation-prone offense in 2020-21, according to Synergy Sports. They were one of the least efficient out of the pick-and-roll, too. Only the Nets’ James Harden, the Wizards’ Russell Westbrook and the Thunder’s Shai Gilgeous-Alexander finished more plays in isolation than Randle did during the regular season.
The Knicks leaned on him profoundly. And when the Hawks leaned toward him, it threw the group out of whack. But if all goes as hoped, this year’s roster should have more variety.
Walker, who fought through a knee injury last year, gives the Knicks a more capable pick-and-roll option than they had in 2020-21. Especially if he’s healthier now than he was in Boston, he brings a fresh look. Walker can score off the dribble. He can find 3-point shooters. Rose mentioned Monday that the Knicks would like to get up 37-to-40 3-point attempts a game this season. They averaged only 30 in 2020-21, 27th in the league. Surely, they don’t want to vomit up more jumpers willy-nilly. Adding that many 3s has as much to do with distributors as it has to do with shooters. Walker will play a hand in changing the Knicks’ habits.
When a Hawks-like defense shades a second defender to Randle, he can toss to Walker for a weakside pick-and-roll. He can hit the paint and kick back out, knowing whomever he just passed to doesn’t have to put up a shot. Whether it’s Walker, Fournier, Barrett, Rose or Immanuel Quickley, the receiver can attack, too.
“I actually saw something on Twitter: ‘R.J. Barrett going into the lane this year.’ And there’s somebody else out in the field by themselves, wide open,” Barrett said. “That’s basically how it’s going to be this year. There’ll be attention on other people. All of us can make a play. I’m looking forward to that opportunity.”


3toheadmelo wrote:
Mitch got hit with the sham curse. Missed like every shot in there
NYKat wrote:TheGreenArrow wrote:F N 11 wrote:Entire team is selfless wow
I honestly feel this team can win the chip!!!!
Oh god, are we doing this already?



3toheadmelo wrote:Hopefully with kemba here we can run some more pick and rolls. We relied on Randle way too much to do everything for usThe Hawks poked holes in the attack; not just because it was prone to stagnant moments but also because it lacked multiformity. Randle was the team’s main source of scoring, and he would create in sometimes predictable ways. The Knicks were the NBA’s fourth-most isolation-prone offense in 2020-21, according to Synergy Sports. They were one of the least efficient out of the pick-and-roll, too. Only the Nets’ James Harden, the Wizards’ Russell Westbrook and the Thunder’s Shai Gilgeous-Alexander finished more plays in isolation than Randle did during the regular season.
The Knicks leaned on him profoundly. And when the Hawks leaned toward him, it threw the group out of whack. But if all goes as hoped, this year’s roster should have more variety.
Walker, who fought through a knee injury last year, gives the Knicks a more capable pick-and-roll option than they had in 2020-21. Especially if he’s healthier now than he was in Boston, he brings a fresh look. Walker can score off the dribble. He can find 3-point shooters. Rose mentioned Monday that the Knicks would like to get up 37-to-40 3-point attempts a game this season. They averaged only 30 in 2020-21, 27th in the league. Surely, they don’t want to vomit up more jumpers willy-nilly. Adding that many 3s has as much to do with distributors as it has to do with shooters. Walker will play a hand in changing the Knicks’ habits.
When a Hawks-like defense shades a second defender to Randle, he can toss to Walker for a weakside pick-and-roll. He can hit the paint and kick back out, knowing whomever he just passed to doesn’t have to put up a shot. Whether it’s Walker, Fournier, Barrett, Rose or Immanuel Quickley, the receiver can attack, too.
“I actually saw something on Twitter: ‘R.J. Barrett going into the lane this year.’ And there’s somebody else out in the field by themselves, wide open,” Barrett said. “That’s basically how it’s going to be this year. There’ll be attention on other people. All of us can make a play. I’m looking forward to that opportunity.”