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Post#801 » by G_K_F » Tue Sep 28, 2021 5:20 am

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I honestly feel this team can win the chip!!!!

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Post#802 » by Reign23 » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:03 am

I see us as the 7th or 8th seed which is really good imo.
better team than last season, but things won't break our way like last year. impossible.
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Post#803 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:22 am

Reign23 wrote:I see us as the 7th or 8th seed which is really good imo.
better team than last season, but things won't break our way like last year. impossible.


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Post#804 » by El Poochio » Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:02 am

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looking at other teams it seems to be an NBA wide thing. I guess the sponsors required bigger patches so people could see them more clearly. They look awful but the NBA is just trying to grab money here and doesn't care about the aesthetics obviously.


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Post#805 » by prophet_of_rage » Tue Sep 28, 2021 12:28 pm

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HighRyzer83 wrote:Agreed on his defensive impact. He covers so much ground it's insane. But I think his offensive liability is mostly a myth. A young Shaq scored on nothing but rebounds and dunks. They also said he was offensively limited, despite doubling the points of the killed and finessed variety. Not saying it's the same talent level but true in concept.
Young Shaq was mobile and had a jump hook. His offence was nothing like Mitch's. Shaq you could throw to for a post up.

Mitch isn't a post up threat. He's a lob threat. So you need penetrative to make him a scoring threat. Which means he'll only really score if a ballhandler is doubled and can find him. He needs to be spoon fed.

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He’s a massive second chance put back threat too which does impact team offensive efficiency. He set the record for Fg% record because of it for crying out loud. And that kind of threat makes it very hard on opposing defenses if you have perimeter scorers they must cover. They can’t pack the paint or board as well which amplifies Mitch’s value down low. Watch what happens now that we will have multiple legit shooters on the floor at all times. Mitch on offense will be a bigger threat without him leaving the paint. Yeah, rim runner is a bigger weapon now that the roster is balancing out
He will be someone you have to put a body on for sure, but that's Capela level impact not young Shaq.

We are absolutely copying the Hawks.

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Post#806 » by FrozenEnvelope » Tue Sep 28, 2021 1:34 pm

We're not the best team on paper but kudos to the front office for acquiring guys who seem to be all about basketball and the team and don't have any drama or baggage off the court. After years of getting clowned on for having well, clowns, who did bs off the court and created internal drama it's refreshing to have a team where we don't have to worry about that.

I think if we keep the defensive intensity and level of last season, we should be over .500 and challenge again for the 4th or 5th seed in the East. RJ and his jump on his 3rd season is a huge x-factor. More so defensively as he'll now kind of looked at as the primary defender on the perimeter without Bully. RJ has been inconsistent defensively and will need to make a jump here. I think Randle and our bench will continue to be major strengths so I'm not worry about them. Gotta hope Rose and Kemba's health hold up as much as possible but they both will miss time. The depth and hopefully Duece hold the fort during those games.
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Post#807 » by Chanel Bomber » Tue Sep 28, 2021 1:48 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
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looking at other teams it seems to be an NBA wide thing. I guess the sponsors required bigger patches so people could see them more clearly. They look awful but the NBA is just trying to grab money here and doesn't care about the aesthetics obviously.

I hope they see a significant dip in jersey sales because of it, although I'm not expecting it.

Some teams/companies have done a better job than others. Short brand names generally help.
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Post#808 » by Clyde_Style » Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:05 pm

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prophet_of_rage wrote:Young Shaq was mobile and had a jump hook. His offence was nothing like Mitch's. Shaq you could throw to for a post up.

Mitch isn't a post up threat. He's a lob threat. So you need penetrative to make him a scoring threat. Which means he'll only really score if a ballhandler is doubled and can find him. He needs to be spoon fed.

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He’s a massive second chance put back threat too which does impact team offensive efficiency. He set the record for Fg% record because of it for crying out loud. And that kind of threat makes it very hard on opposing defenses if you have perimeter scorers they must cover. They can’t pack the paint or board as well which amplifies Mitch’s value down low. Watch what happens now that we will have multiple legit shooters on the floor at all times. Mitch on offense will be a bigger threat without him leaving the paint. Yeah, rim runner is a bigger weapon now that the roster is balancing out
He will be someone you have to put a body on for sure, but that's Capela level impact not young Shaq.

We are absolutely copying the Hawks.

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Post#809 » by moocow007 » Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:55 pm

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Not a surprise. He's been saying the same thing for the past several years already.
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Post#810 » by malik959 » Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:52 pm

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Post#811 » by 3toheadmelo » Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:56 pm

Hopefully with kemba here we can run some more pick and rolls. We relied on Randle way too much to do everything for us
The Hawks poked holes in the attack; not just because it was prone to stagnant moments but also because it lacked multiformity. Randle was the team’s main source of scoring, and he would create in sometimes predictable ways. The Knicks were the NBA’s fourth-most isolation-prone offense in 2020-21, according to Synergy Sports. They were one of the least efficient out of the pick-and-roll, too. Only the Nets’ James Harden, the Wizards’ Russell Westbrook and the Thunder’s Shai Gilgeous-Alexander finished more plays in isolation than Randle did during the regular season.

The Knicks leaned on him profoundly. And when the Hawks leaned toward him, it threw the group out of whack. But if all goes as hoped, this year’s roster should have more variety.

Walker, who fought through a knee injury last year, gives the Knicks a more capable pick-and-roll option than they had in 2020-21. Especially if he’s healthier now than he was in Boston, he brings a fresh look. Walker can score off the dribble. He can find 3-point shooters. Rose mentioned Monday that the Knicks would like to get up 37-to-40 3-point attempts a game this season. They averaged only 30 in 2020-21, 27th in the league. Surely, they don’t want to vomit up more jumpers willy-nilly. Adding that many 3s has as much to do with distributors as it has to do with shooters. Walker will play a hand in changing the Knicks’ habits.

When a Hawks-like defense shades a second defender to Randle, he can toss to Walker for a weakside pick-and-roll. He can hit the paint and kick back out, knowing whomever he just passed to doesn’t have to put up a shot. Whether it’s Walker, Fournier, Barrett, Rose or Immanuel Quickley, the receiver can attack, too.

“I actually saw something on Twitter: ‘R.J. Barrett going into the lane this year.’ And there’s somebody else out in the field by themselves, wide open,” Barrett said. “That’s basically how it’s going to be this year. There’ll be attention on other people. All of us can make a play. I’m looking forward to that opportunity.”

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Post#813 » by 3toheadmelo » Tue Sep 28, 2021 5:06 pm

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Mitch got hit with the sham curse. Missed like every shot in there :lol:
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Post#815 » by jvsimonetti0514 » Tue Sep 28, 2021 5:12 pm

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Mitch got hit with the sham curse. Missed like every shot in there :lol:


and some people thought he was going to start shooting threes :lol:
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Post#816 » by Clyde_Style » Tue Sep 28, 2021 5:13 pm

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F N 11 wrote:Entire team is selfless wow


I honestly feel this team can win the chip!!!!


Oh god, are we doing this already?


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What’s Green all over and full of exclamation points?
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Post#817 » by jvsimonetti0514 » Tue Sep 28, 2021 5:19 pm

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Post#819 » by 3toheadmelo » Tue Sep 28, 2021 5:40 pm

that's the iconic "im going to play you 38+ minutes every night" smile
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Post#820 » by DOT » Tue Sep 28, 2021 5:48 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:Hopefully with kemba here we can run some more pick and rolls. We relied on Randle way too much to do everything for us
The Hawks poked holes in the attack; not just because it was prone to stagnant moments but also because it lacked multiformity. Randle was the team’s main source of scoring, and he would create in sometimes predictable ways. The Knicks were the NBA’s fourth-most isolation-prone offense in 2020-21, according to Synergy Sports. They were one of the least efficient out of the pick-and-roll, too. Only the Nets’ James Harden, the Wizards’ Russell Westbrook and the Thunder’s Shai Gilgeous-Alexander finished more plays in isolation than Randle did during the regular season.

The Knicks leaned on him profoundly. And when the Hawks leaned toward him, it threw the group out of whack. But if all goes as hoped, this year’s roster should have more variety.

Walker, who fought through a knee injury last year, gives the Knicks a more capable pick-and-roll option than they had in 2020-21. Especially if he’s healthier now than he was in Boston, he brings a fresh look. Walker can score off the dribble. He can find 3-point shooters. Rose mentioned Monday that the Knicks would like to get up 37-to-40 3-point attempts a game this season. They averaged only 30 in 2020-21, 27th in the league. Surely, they don’t want to vomit up more jumpers willy-nilly. Adding that many 3s has as much to do with distributors as it has to do with shooters. Walker will play a hand in changing the Knicks’ habits.

When a Hawks-like defense shades a second defender to Randle, he can toss to Walker for a weakside pick-and-roll. He can hit the paint and kick back out, knowing whomever he just passed to doesn’t have to put up a shot. Whether it’s Walker, Fournier, Barrett, Rose or Immanuel Quickley, the receiver can attack, too.

“I actually saw something on Twitter: ‘R.J. Barrett going into the lane this year.’ And there’s somebody else out in the field by themselves, wide open,” Barrett said. “That’s basically how it’s going to be this year. There’ll be attention on other people. All of us can make a play. I’m looking forward to that opportunity.”


I looked it up, and I'm actually surprised at how many PnRs we ran last year

Plays that were finished with the PnR ball handler were 22.3% of our offense, 2nd only to the Jazz, who were at 22.4%, which seems like a lot for how iso-heavy it felt. But I think what it is is, our guards just didn't pass. I don't have numbers for passes to shooters out of the PnR, but we only finished with the big man on 5.1% of plays, which was 7th worst in the league. Combine that with us having the 2nd lowest TOV% out of the PnR for guards (11.2%), which could be good but in this case, I'm inclined to say it's because there were less passes out, which means less likelihood to turn the ball over, and also the 7th highest TOV% out of the PnR for bigs (part of that is Noel being unable to catch, part of it is probably the guards not passing at the right moment), and I think that's the issue

So, we had a lot of guards taking the PnR and trying to score themselves, which they were bad at (.88 ppp, 45.4% eFG, good for only the 41st percentile) and not a lot of passing out of it. Kemba last year isn't definitively gonna fix it, as he was only in the 66th percentile for PnR scoring, but if you think last year was an outlier and he'll be back to more his old form, he will, cause for the other 5 years it's been tracked, he's never been below 80th percentile in scoring, and for 3 straight years (18, 19, and 20) he was well into the 90th percentile, meaning until last year, he was one of the best PnR scoring guards in the league

Either way though, still an upgrade over Elf.
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