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Re: College/Draft thread. Knicks Currently have Picks 12 and 45 

Post#801 » by rickxdel » Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:23 am

I have a feeling that if the Knicks can secure a bottom ten record, the NBA could look at us favorably in terms of how the draft order shakes out...

The Knicks got so much positive press last year for being a hardworking playoff team, imagine if there was actual elite young talent at MSG getting fans excited for the future and keeping the media coverage glowing.

I mean, the NBA put the Knicks on 29 nationally televised games this year following last year's success. Shows they were interested in putting us in front of more fans but obviously we failed those expectations this season. Maybe the draft order will work out for us.
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Re: College/Draft thread. Knicks Currently have Picks 12 and 45 

Post#802 » by 2010 » Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:30 am

Someone has an inferiority complex :lol:

Write another novel dedicated to me. It’s boring to me, but others might find your obsession entertaining. After all, your fan/Stan-like qualities are impacting this thread way more than your pre-draft prospect evaluation contributions. Tell us more…

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Post#803 » by Riles4Pres » Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:32 am

2010 wrote:Someone has an inferiority complex :lol:

Write another novel dedicated to me. It’s boring to me, but others might find your obsession entertaining. After all, your fan/Stan-like qualities are impacting this thread way more than your pre-draft prospect evaluation contributions. Tell us more…

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:lol:

I'll do it only if you start talking like 2 years ago.

Uncle dennis this uncle dennis that. Like you know the guy or he knows you exist. :lol:

Then I will. Deal?
Or you got to ask Uncle Dennis if you can reply to me?
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Post#804 » by 2010 » Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:46 am

You’re like really desperate for my attention though.

I strategically stopped quoting you, yet you’re quoting me in return like clock-work. Eagerly awaiting for me to post, aren’t we?

:lol:

This must be very exciting for you, to get a back & forth with the average guy, you know…the clock-puncher. Somehow, I must be doing quite well for myself to be living rent free in your head like this. Or are you just enamored with average? So why don’t you like TyTy then?

:lol:

But back to the psych analysis, if you’re mentally bookmarking the average Joe (across YEARS) with such detail, memory, and fervor…what exactly does it say about you? Asking for a friend *ahem* Uncle Dennis.

:lol:
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Post#805 » by 2010 » Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:52 am

rickxdel wrote:I have a feeling that if the Knicks can secure a bottom ten record, the NBA could look at us favorably in terms of how the draft order shakes out...

The Knicks got so much positive press last year for being a hardworking playoff team, imagine if there was actual elite young talent at MSG getting fans excited for the future and keeping the media coverage glowing.

I mean, the NBA put the Knicks on 29 nationally televised games this year following last year's success. Shows they were interested in putting us in front of more fans but obviously we failed those expectations this season. Maybe the draft order will work out for us.


Iono if it’s NBA rig-jobs or lottery gods but the Knicks are definitely due for moving up on lottery night for once.
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Post#806 » by Riles4Pres » Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:25 am

2010 wrote:You’re like really desperate for my attention though.

I strategically stopped quoting you, yet you’re quoting me in return like clock-work. Eagerly awaiting for me to post, aren’t we?

:lol:

This must be very exciting for you, to get a back & forth with the average guy, you know…the clock-puncher. Somehow, I must be doing quite well for myself to be living rent free in your head like this. Or are you just enamored with average? So why don’t you like TyTy then?

:lol:

But back to the psych analysis, if you’re mentally bookmarking the average Joe (across YEARS) with such detail, memory, and fervor…what exactly does it say about you? Asking for a friend *ahem* Uncle Dennis.

:lol:

You are responding to me going out of your way to post pics with it. Yet me responding to you is me living rent free?

How does that work? :lol:

You realize you do this all the time. You think you are being witty and smart but you are not. You literally do what you say the other person is doing. You are just too dumb to realize it.

BTW don't feel special. I remember lots of people. I remember tkf. Moo. Greenie. Sham among others.

You guys have provided some good entertainment over the years.

Some for being witty. Intelligent. Greenie for being a psycho. Moo for tryign his best to be level headed in a sea of idiocy. TKF for thinking Gallo is his son.

Sham for hating all of you and you guys think its a joke but its real he just says it as a joke.

You for being your average internet tough guy when all you are is some regular clock puncher with the need of validatio which is why you put up your girl.

Doesn't make you special. Sorry to let you know.

as far as me responding. Truth be told reaching your life goals gives you a lot of free hours. You got so much time on your hands you kind of just look for things to do. Right now its this. Why i am responding its not that you are special. I know you want to be.

Sorry bud one day.
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Post#807 » by SkyMason21 » Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:42 am

It so interesting how Mathurin's role has changed over the season, and really encouraging to see him be successful with such a huge increasing in shot creation responsibility. I don't think he'd have a third of the driving attempts he had against UCLA in any game he played in 2-3 months ago.
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Post#808 » by 2010 » Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:58 am

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2010 wrote:You’re like really desperate for my attention though.

I strategically stopped quoting you, yet you’re quoting me in return like clock-work. Eagerly awaiting for me to post, aren’t we?

:lol:

This must be very exciting for you, to get a back & forth with the average guy, you know…the clock-puncher. Somehow, I must be doing quite well for myself to be living rent free in your head like this. Or are you just enamored with average? So why don’t you like TyTy then?

:lol:

But back to the psych analysis, if you’re mentally bookmarking the average Joe (across YEARS) with such detail, memory, and fervor…what exactly does it say about you? Asking for a friend *ahem* Uncle Dennis.

:lol:

You are responding to me going out of your way to post pics with it. Yet me responding to you is me living rent free?

How does that work? :lol:

You realize you do this all the time. You think you are being witty and smart but you are not. You literally do what you say the other person is doing. You are just too dumb to realize it.

BTW don't feel special. I remember lots of people. I remember tkf. Moo. Greenie. Sham among others.

You guys have provided some good entertainment over the years.

Some for being witty. Intelligent. Greenie for being a psycho. Moo for tryign his best to be level headed in a sea of idiocy. TKF for thinking Gallo is his son.

Sham for hating all of you and you guys think its a joke but its real he just says it as a joke.

You for being your average internet tough guy when all you are is some regular clock puncher with the need of validatio which is why you put up your girl.

Doesn't make you special. Sorry to let you know.

as far as me responding. Truth be told reaching your life goals gives you a lot of free hours. You got so much time on your hands you kind of just look for things to do. Right now its this. Why i am responding its not that you are special. I know you want to be.

Sorry bud one day.


So you justify your creepiness by basically saying:
I’m not just stalking you, I stalk several others as well!

:lol:

Dude, your whole vibe gives off weirdo energy like…

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Post#809 » by 2010 » Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:14 am

This wasn’t the most efficient game from him but you can still see the potential. Showed some craftiness with a couple of his open court finishes, showed the floater, showed the midrange, and his end-to-end speed may actually be being a bit underrated, at this point.

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Post#810 » by El Poochio » Mon Mar 14, 2022 2:24 pm

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Post#811 » by DOT » Mon Mar 14, 2022 2:49 pm

I think TyTy is being helped by the fact there's not many good PGs coming out this year, or at least, none are highly ranked

What I look at is, I'm not the biggest fan of his offensive game. I think you should be able to hit mids, but that shouldn't be your go-to move. The encouraging thing is, he seems to be fine at shooting 3s off the catch, meaning he can coexist with other ball-dominant guys, more so than a Dejounte Murray, who's only at 31% off the catch, 29% off the dribble

You can argue that TyTy will be better with NBA spacing, have an easier time getting to the rim, but I can't say for sure

If he's still there when we pick at 8 or 9, we should absolutely take him. If I'm grading for us, I think Chet, Jabari, and Paolo are all too good to pass up even with the fact we need a guard, and Ivey is clearly up there with them but fits better. I'd put TyTy for us potentially at #5, I just need to see more of AJ Griffin, Benedict Mathurin, and Johnny Davis, I think those guys are in contention for me right now, but subject to change. Then I know guys are high on Shaedon Sharpe, but I can't quantify someone I can't watch, and I know my ability to scout high school is dog sh*t (college I'm not much better on, but it is noticeably better), so I have no frame of reference for him. I just don't have the ability to say, so I just don't know where to put him

But I guess that's my early board, top 4 of Chet, Jabari, Paolo, and Ivey, with Griffin, Mathurin, TyTy, Davis, and Sharpe in the next tier

I'll start to look more as where we're picking becomes more clear, but for right now, I have to say TyTy if we end up outside the top 4, then if we do get top 4, Ivey makes the most sense based on skill set and ability, while Chet may be the most boom or bust pick.
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Post#812 » by 2010 » Mon Mar 14, 2022 3:15 pm

Good example of TyTy’s shot making ability…



Good example of TyTy’s playmaking ability out of the PnR…

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Post#813 » by 2010 » Mon Mar 14, 2022 3:34 pm

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Post#815 » by cgf » Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:50 pm

If the lotto gods give us the 4th pick and Giddey's growth opens OKC up to moving SGA before they have to pay him; who's giving up a package built around Ivey for SGA?
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Post#816 » by 2010 » Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:46 pm

cgf wrote:If the lotto gods give us the 4th pick and Giddey's growth opens OKC up to moving SGA before they have to pay him; who's giving up a package built around Ivey for SGA?


I’d probably do that. Ivey has great potential but SGA is a proven commodity. I guess you’d have to hear what the other outgoing parts would be, but if I can keep RJ/Grimes/Cam and send out #4 with guys like IQ and Obi, I’m pulling the trigger.
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Post#817 » by Capn'O » Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:51 pm

cgf wrote:If the lotto gods give us the 4th pick and Giddey's growth opens OKC up to moving SGA before they have to pay him; who's giving up a package built around Ivey for SGA?


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Post#818 » by Deeeez Knicks » Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:59 pm

2010 wrote:


Hoping we see that TyTy vs Ivey matchup
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Post#819 » by TerrenceClarke » Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:44 pm

Hating on TyTy is dumb. For where the Knicks are expected to pick he is a good prospect to have. Its been proven for like the last 7 years +. Judging a UK guard by what he did in college is dumb. None of current Crop of UK guards of the last 7 years or so looked that good college.



The only one who looked decent was Fox which is why he went high.

Check the slots of all of the others ones who are considered "studs" now in the NBA. They all was picked passed 10 and have EASILY out played they draft spot.

Even Bam Looked suspect in College and dude came into the NBA feasting.

You cant judge UK players from what they do in college they way you do other programs. Cal Treats them Different.

Nobody is saying pick the dude top 5. So anything after that is just noise.

I can pull up the same "meh" talk about Maxey.

Now everybody butt hurt that we dont have him. Even pro scouts couldn't see the talent Maxey had which is why he went so damn late in the draft.

So any dude yapping in here just needs to STFU about TyTy considering where we are expected to pick a player.
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Post#820 » by moocow007 » Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:05 pm

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Hoping we see that TyTy vs Ivey matchup


In the NBA with Ivey wearing Knicks blue and orange? 8-)

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