Around the NBA - the sharp end of the playoffs - Randle snubbed for All NBA

[JXL]

See how paying $90 million to a 35 year old Lowry will hurt your chances? Not to mention how Adebayo disappears in this series and how Butler has to carry the entire roster like a pack mule and he's clearly laboring a foot injury.

Celtics are just that much better. Depth is great with their bigs, and they don't even need to go as big with Horford and Theis and G. Williams. I wouldn't take them to win the title if GS gets through Dallas, but I wouldn't say they won't have a chance.

[Reign23]

he’s blocking my guy Kuminga from greatness. plus y’all are wild for hoping RJ turns into Wiggins. that’s like one of the worst case scenarios for RJ. bad defender that can’t make layups? yikes

I am hoping RJ will get way better. but you might be the only one that thinks wiggins is a bad defender. he is one of the best 3 and d guys in the league for sure. Is he an all star starter? defintely not! but somewhere between "borderline all star" and "very good starter".

you guys get caught up in highlights way too much. just because a player makes one or two good defensive plays and they show the replay 100 times it does not mean they are actually a good defender. I just posted the stats that show Luka has been torching him every time he guards him. In fact players field goal percentage are only -0.2% worse when he guards them. that is not even close to being a good defender.

I actually use the eye test. he is a very good defender imo. luke, on a good day, is cooking everyone.

[3toheadmelo]

I am hoping RJ will get way better. but you might be the only one that thinks wiggins is a bad defender. he is one of the best 3 and d guys in the league for sure. Is he an all star starter? defintely not! but somewhere between "borderline all star" and "very good starter".

you guys get caught up in highlights way too much. just because a player makes one or two good defensive plays and they show the replay 100 times it does not mean they are actually a good defender. I just posted the stats that show Luka has been torching him every time he guards him. In fact players field goal percentage are only -0.2% worse when he guards them. that is not even close to being a good defender.

I actually use the eye test. he is a very good defender imo. luke, on a good day, is cooking everyone.

We must be watching different games then because he’s been a liability on that end and stats agree with me

[Reign23]

you guys get caught up in highlights way too much. just because a player makes one or two good defensive plays and they show the replay 100 times it does not mean they are actually a good defender. I just posted the stats that show Luka has been torching him every time he guards him. In fact players field goal percentage are only -0.2% worse when he guards them. that is not even close to being a good defender.

I actually use the eye test. he is a very good defender imo. luke, on a good day, is cooking everyone.

We must be watching different games then because he’s been a liability on that end and stats agree with me

he was 5th out of 98 small forwards in DRPM. just looked that up. also most basketball experts describe him as a good defender

[3toheadmelo]

I actually use the eye test. he is a very good defender imo. luke, on a good day, is cooking everyone.

We must be watching different games then because he’s been a liability on that end and stats agree with me

he was 5th out of 98 small forwards in DRPM. just looked that up. also most basketball experts describe him as a good defender

DRPM is one of the most outdated stats.
nobody uses that anymore because everyone knows how unreliable it is. It has Jokic as a top 5 defender in the whole league. Capella as the second best, Looney as the third best, Monte Morris as a top 10 defender, etc. it’s awful.

[Reign23]

We must be watching different games then because he’s been a liability on that end and stats agree with me

he was 5th out of 98 small forwards in DRPM. just looked that up. also most basketball experts describe him as a good defender

DRPM is one of the most outdated stats.
nobody uses that anymore because everyone knows how unreliable it is. It has Jokic as a top 5 defender in the whole league. Capella as the second best, Looney as the third best, Monte Morris as a top 10 defender, etc. it’s awful.

I don't know, for small forwards it also has Tatum, Mikal Bridges, Herb Jones, Saddiq Bay and Jae'sean Tate in the top 10. seems legit to me

[LookToShoot]

The Heat gave too much money to role players (Bam and Robinson) and to washed up players like Lowry. They should trade for Ayton.

[3toheadmelo]

he was 5th out of 98 small forwards in DRPM. just looked that up. also most basketball experts describe him as a good defender

DRPM is one of the most outdated stats.
nobody uses that anymore because everyone knows how unreliable it is. It has Jokic as a top 5 defender in the whole league. Capella as the second best, Looney as the third best, Monte Morris as a top 10 defender, etc. it’s awful.

I don't know, for small forwards it also has Tatum, Mikal Bridges, Herb Jones, Saddiq Bay and Jae'sean Tate in the top 10. seems legit to me

If you agree with the rankings I just said, god bless your soul.

[Deeeez Knicks]

I am hoping RJ will get way better. but you might be the only one that thinks wiggins is a bad defender. he is one of the best 3 and d guys in the league for sure. Is he an all star starter? defintely not! but somewhere between "borderline all star" and "very good starter".

you guys get caught up in highlights way too much. just because a player makes one or two good defensive plays and they show the replay 100 times it does not mean they are actually a good defender. I just posted the stats that show Luka has been torching him every time he guards him. In fact players field goal percentage are only -0.2% worse when he guards them. that is not even close to being a good defender.

I actually use the eye test. he is a very good defender imo. luke, on a good day, is cooking everyone.

Yea, Wiggins has been playing great defense. I never was even a fan of Wiggins but have to give him credit cause he has been playing really well on both ends.

In terms of defense, there’s not many reliable stats. And nobody is shutting Luka down. But Wiggins without a doubt has been playing him really well and making him work. It’s been a key to the series.

[3toheadmelo]

Wiggins has not slowed down Luka at all. He’s actually been one of the worst defenders on Luka. They have more success with Draymond green guarding him

[seren]

Wiggins, Butler, Lavine before that. Do successes of ex-Minnesota players show Thibs is highly overrated as a coach? Just asking

Shows how good he is at development.

Wasn't Butler good before Minnesota? The f*ckup there was Thibs brought him in at cost of assets only to lose him?

He coached Butler in Chicago. Gave him 8.5 mpg in his rookie year. Averaged 17 mpg until game 39. What happened in game 39? Luol Deng got injured.

Thibs is really bad with handling young players.

[HEZI]

"It's just so fun to see Wiggs playing at this level, getting his due," Kerr added. "We'd be dead without him, he's spending every second guarding Luka Dončić, it's such a difficult job and we have to have Wiggs and he's doing a great job."

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[HerSports85]

"It's just so fun to see Wiggs playing at this level, getting his due," Kerr added. "We'd be dead without him, he's spending every second guarding Luka Dončić, it's such a difficult job and we have to have Wiggs and he's doing a great job."

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[3toheadmelo]

Of course his coach is going to say positive things about him to the media

[3toheadmelo]

The fascination with Wiggins here does not suprise
me much. this board loves role players. especially ones that aren’t the top 4 players of their team (Wiggins, Frank, Obi, etc)

[HEZI]

"It's just so fun to see Wiggs playing at this level, getting his due," Kerr added. "We'd be dead without him, he's spending every second guarding Luka Dončić, it's such a difficult job and we have to have Wiggs and he's doing a great job."

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All Star Wiggs. I think he’s leading them in 3 point percentage too. Too bad the Suns had nobody on his level to make it a more interesting series.

[HerSports85]

lol Wiggins biggest hater " I was wrong, Wiggins been the difference maker in this series"

https://youtu.be/z1zIZbefWeU

Alright I'm done lol. I could care less if Wiggins is a star or not as long as he's excelling in his role on the warriors. Once he's no longer a warrior, he's nothing to me.

Just funny how people try to downplay Poole when i said he was Steph 2.0. Tried to say Wiggins would be the warriors downfall and his contract was horrible and now look.

[TerrenceClarke]

The fascination with Wiggins here does not suprise
me much. this board loves role players. especially ones that aren’t the top 4 players of their team (Wiggins, Frank, Obi, etc)

Fam you to hard on Wiggins. Who cares if he is a role player...He cant be liked because of that? Wiggins is a HIGH END Role player. The type you NEED on a team. He is no where near frank and obi etc. Come on now my G

I twll you this a million times. I would rather have Wiggins on this team over RJ any day of the week. If Wiggins is not a star to you fine I get all that, but dude is still a hell of a player to have for a team contending. IF the Warriors are saying they are here because of Wiggins then guess what, they know it to be true. They not saying it to just say it.

[3toheadmelo]

The fascination with Wiggins here does not suprise
me much. this board loves role players. especially ones that aren’t the top 4 players of their team (Wiggins, Frank, Obi, etc)

Fam you to hard on Wiggins. Who cares if he is a role player...He cant be liked because of that? Wiggins is a HIGH END Role player. The type you NEED on a team. He is no where near frank and obi etc. Come on now my G

I twll you this a million times. I would rather have Wiggins on this team over RJ any day of the week. If Wiggins is not a star to you fine I get all that, but dude is still a hell of a player to have for a team contending. IF the Warriors are saying they are here because of Wiggins then guess what, they know it to be true. They not saying it to just say it.

Hes aight as a role player. But the love fest for him is crazy here. His motor is still inconsistent. He has mad games where he is a no show (like the last one). And there's no reliable stats that back up his "great defense". I just find the obssession with role players here so weird.

To me this is like Frank all over again, even if Wiggins is better. The concept is still the same. Overrate role players who aint even the top 4 best players of they squad. Same schit with Obi. It never ends.

[TerrenceClarke]

The fascination with Wiggins here does not suprise
me much. this board loves role players. especially ones that aren’t the top 4 players of their team (Wiggins, Frank, Obi, etc)

Fam you to hard on Wiggins. Who cares if he is a role player...He cant be liked because of that? Wiggins is a HIGH END Role player. The type you NEED on a team. He is no where near frank and obi etc. Come on now my G

I twll you this a million times. I would rather have Wiggins on this team over RJ any day of the week. If Wiggins is not a star to you fine I get all that, but dude is still a hell of a player to have for a team contending. IF the Warriors are saying they are here because of Wiggins then guess what, they know it to be true. They not saying it to just say it.

Hes aight as a role player. But the love fest for him is crazy here. His motor is still inconsistent. He has mad games where he is a no show (like the last one). And there's no reliable stats that back up his "great defense". I just find the obssession with role players here so weird.

To me this is like Frank all over again, even if Wiggins is better. The concept is still the same. Overrate role players who aint even the top 4 best players of they squad. Same schit with Obi. It never ends.