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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#801 » by spree2kawhi » Sat Dec 2, 2023 7:25 am

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HarthorneWingo wrote:I want to see 2 years of healthy Zion before I'd consider seeking to acquire him. When does he become a free agent?


Problem is if we see 2 years of healthy Zion, then he is more than likely not getting traded unfortunately.

The only reason, as of now, that he would be available is because NOP doesn't trust his health/work ethic. If he turns that part of himself around they would be stupid to trade him tbh as long as he wants to be there.


Is Zion available now?

With him it needs to be called uninjured. He never looked ‘healthy’.
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#802 » by RHODEY » Sat Dec 2, 2023 8:03 am

Ih8duke wrote:I think a Tre Murphy for Quickly trade is interesting. Quickly wants to start and have his own team like Brunson did. Unless we are willing to make him and pay him like a starting 2 and I don’t think we are. Losing Quicks would hurt no doubt. But Murphy would push RJ to the 2, Space the floor, and give us another young player with a ton of upside. We need a big athletic, wing shooter and Murphy is that. NOR needs another guard badly. They have Jones and Ingram as big wings and could spare Murphy. It balances both teams nicely. Something like Quicks and Fournier for Murphy Nance Lewis works cap wise. I don’t know if any picks would be needed. Something I would think about.

Very Interesting. Murphy is that pro-typical 3 and dthat we have needed for so long...size, some defense , and can really shoot.
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

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Post#804 » by HopelessKnick » Sat Dec 2, 2023 8:27 am

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Ih8duke wrote:I think a Tre Murphy for Quickly trade is interesting. Quickly wants to start and have his own team like Brunson did. Unless we are willing to make him and pay him like a starting 2 and I don’t think we are. Losing Quicks would hurt no doubt. But Murphy would push RJ to the 2, Space the floor, and give us another young player with a ton of upside. We need a big athletic, wing shooter and Murphy is that. NOR needs another guard badly. They have Jones and Ingram as big wings and could spare Murphy. It balances both teams nicely. Something like Quicks and Fournier for Murphy Nance Lewis works cap wise. I don’t know if any picks would be needed. Something I would think about.

Very Interesting. Murphy is that pro-typical 3 and dthat we have needed for so long...size, some defense , and can really shoot.


Really doubt NO pulling the trigger on that one. Trey is 6'8, can defend some and shoots 40% from 3. He is perfect next to 3 scorers in Zion, BI and CJ.....why trade him for a 6'2 player that also needs the ball?

NO, IF healthy (I know a huge if) will be top 4 in the west....they are really good....watch them shoot up the standings in their players stay healthy....they won't trade Trey IMO..
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#805 » by 3toheadmelo » Sat Dec 2, 2023 4:18 pm

RJ for Ingram
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Post#806 » by aggo » Sat Dec 2, 2023 4:29 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:RJ for Ingram

randle for Zion
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Post#807 » by sogood » Sat Dec 2, 2023 4:58 pm

Ih8duke wrote:I think a Tre Murphy for Quickly trade is interesting. Quickly wants to start and have his own team like Brunson did. Unless we are willing to make him and pay him like a starting 2 and I don’t think we are. Losing Quicks would hurt no doubt. But Murphy would push RJ to the 2, Space the floor, and give us another young player with a ton of upside. We need a big athletic, wing shooter and Murphy is that. NOR needs another guard badly. They have Jones and Ingram as big wings and could spare Murphy. It balances both teams nicely. Something like Quicks and Fournier for Murphy Nance Lewis works cap wise. I don’t know if any picks would be needed. Something I would think about.


lmao New Orleans is not trading Trey Murphy for Quickley.
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Post#809 » by Jalen Bluntson » Sat Dec 2, 2023 4:59 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:RJ for Ingram

randle for Zion


I'll approve of either trade. Prefer to keep RJ but, would rather get Ingram. Randle for Ingram it is then. None of these will happen though. Randle is the new Herb Williams.
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Post#810 » by RHODEY » Sat Dec 2, 2023 6:22 pm

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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#811 » by Ih8duke » Sat Dec 2, 2023 7:02 pm

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Ih8duke wrote:I think a Tre Murphy for Quickly trade is interesting. Quickly wants to start and have his own team like Brunson did. Unless we are willing to make him and pay him like a starting 2 and I don’t think we are. Losing Quicks would hurt no doubt. But Murphy would push RJ to the 2, Space the floor, and give us another young player with a ton of upside. We need a big athletic, wing shooter and Murphy is that. NOR needs another guard badly. They have Jones and Ingram as big wings and could spare Murphy. It balances both teams nicely. Something like Quicks and Fournier for Murphy Nance Lewis works cap wise. I don’t know if any picks would be needed. Something I would think about.

Very Interesting. Murphy is that pro-typical 3 and dthat we have needed for so long...size, some defense , and can really shoot.


Really doubt NO pulling the trigger on that one. Trey is 6'8, can defend some and shoots 40% from 3. He is perfect next to 3 scorers in Zion, BI and CJ.....why trade him for a 6'2 player that also needs the ball?

NO, IF healthy (I know a huge if) will be top 4 in the west....they are really good....watch them shoot up the standings in their players stay healthy....they won't trade Trey IMO..


I think the reason for NO is Herb Jones is also a really good young 3 who is a better defender and playing really well right now. He doesn’t need shots like Murphy does either. Quickly would fit with CJ now and would be a great fit with Dyson Daniel’s down the road. I think Quicks value is pretty high right now. I think they have to think hard about it.
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#812 » by Ih8duke » Sat Dec 2, 2023 7:07 pm

sogood wrote:
Ih8duke wrote:I think a Tre Murphy for Quickly trade is interesting. Quickly wants to start and have his own team like Brunson did. Unless we are willing to make him and pay him like a starting 2 and I don’t think we are. Losing Quicks would hurt no doubt. But Murphy would push RJ to the 2, Space the floor, and give us another young player with a ton of upside. We need a big athletic, wing shooter and Murphy is that. NOR needs another guard badly. They have Jones and Ingram as big wings and could spare Murphy. It balances both teams nicely. Something like Quicks and Fournier for Murphy Nance Lewis works cap wise. I don’t know if any picks would be needed. Something I would think about.


lmao New Orleans is not trading Trey Murphy for Quickley.


You really think that’s laughable? Quicks value is pretty high right now. NOR has an older CJ, Dyson Daniel’s and pretty much nothing else in the backcourt. They have Jones, Ingram, Murphy and Zion at the 3 and 4 and not enough minutes for all. I’m not saying they trade Murphy but I don’t think them wanting IQ is laughable. I hope we find out.
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#813 » by spree2kawhi » Sat Dec 2, 2023 8:02 pm

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Ih8duke wrote:I think a Tre Murphy for Quickly trade is interesting. Quickly wants to start and have his own team like Brunson did. Unless we are willing to make him and pay him like a starting 2 and I don’t think we are. Losing Quicks would hurt no doubt. But Murphy would push RJ to the 2, Space the floor, and give us another young player with a ton of upside. We need a big athletic, wing shooter and Murphy is that. NOR needs another guard badly. They have Jones and Ingram as big wings and could spare Murphy. It balances both teams nicely. Something like Quicks and Fournier for Murphy Nance Lewis works cap wise. I don’t know if any picks would be needed. Something I would think about.

Very Interesting. Murphy is that pro-typical 3 and dthat we have needed for so long...size, some defense , and can really shoot.


Really doubt NO pulling the trigger on that one. Trey is 6'8, can defend some and shoots 40% from 3. He is perfect next to 3 scorers in Zion, BI and CJ.....why trade him for a 6'2 player that also needs the ball?

NO, IF healthy (I know a huge if) will be top 4 in the west....they are really good....watch them shoot up the standings in their players stay healthy....they won't trade Trey IMO..

I thought that would happen last year. I like their potential, not their defensive ability though. My darkhorse for a real surprise is Sacramento. I could even see them win the western conference. Sabonis >>> Randle :nod:

We’ll know a little more after the Denver game.
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Post#814 » by RHODEY » Sat Dec 2, 2023 8:13 pm

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RHODEY wrote:Very Interesting. Murphy is that pro-typical 3 and dthat we have needed for so long...size, some defense , and can really shoot.


Really doubt NO pulling the trigger on that one. Trey is 6'8, can defend some and shoots 40% from 3. He is perfect next to 3 scorers in Zion, BI and CJ.....why trade him for a 6'2 player that also needs the ball?

NO, IF healthy (I know a huge if) will be top 4 in the west....they are really good....watch them shoot up the standings in their players stay healthy....they won't trade Trey IMO..

I thought that would happen last year. I like their potential, not their defensive ability though. My darkhorse for a real surprise is Sacramento. I could even see them win the western conference. Sabonis >>> Randle :nod:

We’ll know a little more after the Denver game.

Randle dismantles Sir Bogus every time they play. Sacramento is good but their defense is lacking.
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Post#815 » by spree2kawhi » Sat Dec 2, 2023 8:39 pm

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Really doubt NO pulling the trigger on that one. Trey is 6'8, can defend some and shoots 40% from 3. He is perfect next to 3 scorers in Zion, BI and CJ.....why trade him for a 6'2 player that also needs the ball?

NO, IF healthy (I know a huge if) will be top 4 in the west....they are really good....watch them shoot up the standings in their players stay healthy....they won't trade Trey IMO..

I thought that would happen last year. I like their potential, not their defensive ability though. My darkhorse for a real surprise is Sacramento. I could even see them win the western conference. Sabonis >>> Randle :nod:

We’ll know a little more after the Denver game.

Randle dismantles Sir Bogus every time they play. Sacramento is good but their defense is lacking.

Why do you choose to be wrong so often? :lol:
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Post#816 » by lloydj » Sat Dec 2, 2023 8:54 pm

Knick Trade: A Late First Rounder or Bunch of Second Rounder

Golden State Trade: Dario Saric

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Post#817 » by Jalen Bluntson » Sat Dec 2, 2023 10:24 pm

lloydj wrote:Knick Trade: A Late First Rounder or Bunch of Second Rounder

Golden State Trade: Dario Saric

8-)


Not a bad idea at all. 2nd rd picks.
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Post#818 » by nykballa2k4 » Sun Dec 3, 2023 1:40 am

I could see us trading Dallas pick, McBride for JT Thor.
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Post#819 » by finestrg » Sun Dec 3, 2023 4:46 pm

Trade for Lauri Markkanen?

My buddy brought this up to me a couple of weeks ago, now I see some internet rumors gaining some steam about him possibly being available at the trade deadline (or sooner perhaps) and the Knicks possibly being interested. The more I think about it, the more I like it for us.

Not many guys around at 7' 240 lbs. with better offense skills than this dude -- puts it on the floor, can finish with authority, some post up ability, and a very good 3 pt shooter..The mobility/agility he has at that size is excellent and supposedly he's made some nice strides defensively over the past couple of years. He's really gone from some potential/upside guy who was essential a glorified throw-in in the Donovan Mitchell deal to a bonafide STAR now in Utah the past season +. I think he's only 26 so love that as well. He fits right into our timeline.

I saw some youtube clip where Scott Perry likes him but doesn't think he'd be the best fit on the Knicks.... First thing I thought of was, well if we got him he would be that extra big we're clearly missing and his athletic versatility would allow him to gobble up enough mins backing up SF, PF and maybe even some mins. at C (clearly he's a better fit at 4 or 5 but i think he could actually play some 3 as well). Then i was like, this dude's become a bonafide star now, so I don't think he'd be happy being some super sub over here... So then started thinking what if we try to build a trade for him around Mitchell Robinson, Grimes and several picks (3?) and a couple of pick swaps, and bring in Markkanen to be the starting 5 backed up by Hartenstein?

I think this would be a huge upgrade to the roster -- the big boost we could use offensively as far as getting another big-time offensive weapon in here and I honestly don't think we'd be missing that much rebounding and defense either (Markkanen may not be the rebounder or rim protector Mitch is, but he's no slouch in either area either).

There are problems though, starting with Danny Ainge. We couldn't get it done for Donovan Mitchell dealing with this guy, could we get something fair/sensible done with him for Markkanen? Sucks to say, but I have my doubts. Dude probably would ask for the moon for this dude as well.

You figure there's a few starting offers Leon could go to Ainge with to get the conversation underway:
- Fournier (i guess his expiring contract has some value), Grimes and/or IQ + picks and swaps (probably maximum picks and swaps we would have to give up)
- RJ Barrett + picks and swaps (hopefully minimum amount of picks and swaps we should have to give up)
- Robinson and Grimes + picks and swaps

I think the most favorable scenario for us as far as best post-trade roster balance would be the Robinson/Grimes + picks and swaps scenario. We'd swap out Mitch for Markkanen and we'd move on from Grimes who I still like but just isn't producing here for whatever reason(s) which would allow us to start DDV and have Hart back him up (and the 3) where he's a much better fit than backing up the 4 spot).

Then there's our assets -- which ones would Utah want back, beside the picks and swaps? I don't know if any of our players make perfect sense for them:

Grimes -- I mean maybe they'd look at Grimes as a replacement over Talen Horton-Tucker who's in the last year of his deal but they also have Ochai Agbaji, Keyonte George and then Brice Sensabaugh waiting in the wings (even though Sensabaugh's probably more of a SF though). Point is Grimes isn't the best fit, not to mention his value has got to be so low as he continues to rack up unproductive game after game.

Mitch -- they already have John Collins and Walker Kessler.

IQ - they already have Jordan Clarkson and Collin Sexton under contract for another 2 seasons after this one at fairly substantial money. IQ feels like duplication with these two.

Barrett might make the most sense for them.

Anyway, thoughts on trading for Lauri Markkanen?
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