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[moocow007]

On trades, money and related "impossibilitiness" of making moves.

At the end of the day, the only guy that is off limits for the Knicks in a trade is Brunson. They can make moves if they feel those moves will make them better than they were last season (and Brunson was a HUGE reason they were what they were last season lets be honest).

Is the climate ideal for a big trade? No. It is a guarantee that if they do make a big trade that they'll be better? No. But do I believe that the Knicks front office believes they have enough to win it all? No.

[WaltFrazier]

Maybe lock up IHart, OG, then waive Bogs, then throw the mle at Valencuniois and send Mitch Rob and a pick to the Pels for Tre Murphy or Herb Jones. Bring Rokas over and let’s see what we got.

Yesterday Rokas said in an interview that if Lithuania fails to qualify for the Olympics, his plan is to go to the summer league and earn a spot on the roster.

0% chance he's ever a Knick

Why? Seems like a chance to get a back-up guard without a trade or giving up anything. Like a free addition. I don't know what he'd to to the cap though.

[moocow007]

Yesterday Rokas said in an interview that if Lithuania fails to qualify for the Olympics, his plan is to go to the summer league and earn a spot on the roster.

0% chance he's ever a Knick

Why? Seems like a chance to get a back-up guard without a trade or giving up anything. Like a free addition. I don't know what he'd to to the cap though.

Much like MIlos Vujanic (who showed about as much excitement in being drafted as someone watching paint dry) and unlike a lot of other European players that have come to the NBA and found success, he's thus far never voiced a strong desire to play in the NBA. He was drafted in 2021 which means it'll be 3 years in a little over a week that he was drafted. In that time he's shown up in how many Knick summer leagues? Now if the Knicks drafted him when he was very young then ok but he'll be 24 this season. If he was serious then you'd think he'd put the NBA higher on his priority list than international play. He really hasn't that I'm aware of.

[WaltFrazier]

0% chance he's ever a Knick

Why? Seems like a chance to get a back-up guard without a trade or giving up anything. Like a free addition. I don't know what he'd to to the cap though.

Much like MIlos Vujanic and unlike a lot of other European players that have come to the NBA and found success, he's thus far never voiced a strong desire to play in the NBA. He was drafted in 2021 which means it'll be 3 years in a little over a week that he was drafted. In that time he's shown up in how many Knick summer leagues? Now if the Knicks drafted him when he was very young then ok but he'll be 24 this season. If he was serious then you'd think he'd put the NBA higher on his priority list than international play. He hasn't.

I don't know the details but didn't the Knicks "stash" him in Europe for further development? So it was kind of mutual? The more I read about him the more I think he's an intriguing prospect, big guard who can shoot, only 24 and been playing in good competition.

JV is sitting out Lithuania's Olympic qualifier because of free agency so maybe their chance of losing is greater, and Rokas will play summer league.

[thebuzzardman]

Why? Seems like a chance to get a back-up guard without a trade or giving up anything. Like a free addition. I don't know what he'd to to the cap though.

Much like MIlos Vujanic and unlike a lot of other European players that have come to the NBA and found success, he's thus far never voiced a strong desire to play in the NBA. He was drafted in 2021 which means it'll be 3 years in a little over a week that he was drafted. In that time he's shown up in how many Knick summer leagues? Now if the Knicks drafted him when he was very young then ok but he'll be 24 this season. If he was serious then you'd think he'd put the NBA higher on his priority list than international play. He hasn't.

I don't know the details but didn't the Knicks "stash" him in Europe for further development? So it was kind of mutual? The more I read about him the more I think he's an intriguing prospect, big guard who can shoot, only 24 and been playing in good competition.

JV is sitting out Lithuania's Olympic qualifier because of free agency so maybe their chance of losing is greater, and Rokas will play summer league.

Jockitchbitus has also expressed concern over minutes regarding coming to the NBA.

Add him to list of players who won't come to the Knicks because they aren't getting 36 minutes a game. Sh*t has gone international!

[louisorr]

let iHart walk.same for Burks and Bogs

Sign Klay.
Draft a center and pg

trot out Mitch, Randle, OG, Klay and JB
with DD, Deuce, josh off the bench

what's wrong with this?

[HarthorneWingo]

On trades, money and related "impossibilitiness" of making moves.

At the end of the day, the only guy that is off limits for the Knicks in a trade is Brunson. They can make moves if they feel those moves will make them better than they were last season (and Brunson was a HUGE reason they were what they were last season lets be honest).

Is the climate ideal for a big trade? No. It is a guarantee that if they do make a big trade that they'll be better? No. But do I believe that the Knicks front office believes they have enough to win it all? No.

Do I believe that you believe that the Knicks will make a big trade for a star? No.

[WargamesX]

On trades, money and related "impossibilitiness" of making moves.

At the end of the day, the only guy that is off limits for the Knicks in a trade is Brunson. They can make moves if they feel those moves will make them better than they were last season (and Brunson was a HUGE reason they were what they were last season lets be honest).

Is the climate ideal for a big trade? No. It is a guarantee that if they do make a big trade that they'll be better? No. But do I believe that the Knicks front office believes they have enough to win it all? No.

I don’t know if the league is designed for teams to have an overwhelming advantage any more so a team can say it’s the favorite before the offseason happens. 5 different teams have won the championship the last 5 years. Even if Boston wins this year I don’t think they are a shoe in to win next year.

I do think that the Knicks should be in that conversation next year unless something unexpected happens.

[kNicksGmen]

let iHart walk.same for Burks and Bogs

Sign Klay.
Draft a center and pg

trot out Mitch, Randle, OG, Klay and JB
with DD, Deuce, josh off the bench

what's wrong with this?

lol we don't have cap space. could only get klay with a sign n trade. either way nobody wants klay on this team. what are we trading GS to make salary match? just a dumb idea all around no offense.

[Wildcat]

let iHart walk.same for Burks and Bogs

Sign Klay.
Draft a center and pg

trot out Mitch, Randle, OG, Klay and JB
with DD, Deuce, josh off the bench

what's wrong with this?

That's dog poop idea, mate. Bringing Mitch back into the starting lineup creates the same problem the team had with RJ/Randle/Mitch. Zero spacing, zero creativity.

I also don't see any world where Klay > I-Hart, Burks, and Bog's contract. If you were annoyed by DD's defense, boy is Klay going to show you something else.

[TheGreenArrow]

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[moocow007]

On trades, money and related "impossibilitiness" of making moves.

At the end of the day, the only guy that is off limits for the Knicks in a trade is Brunson. They can make moves if they feel those moves will make them better than they were last season (and Brunson was a HUGE reason they were what they were last season lets be honest).

Is the climate ideal for a big trade? No. It is a guarantee that if they do make a big trade that they'll be better? No. But do I believe that the Knicks front office believes they have enough to win it all? No.

Do I believe that you believe that the Knicks will make a big trade for a star? No.

Yeah I don't think it'll happen. More realistic is they sign the new CAA client Tsunami Papi (full MLE), a trade for Jordan Clarkson (one year left on his contract should make him more reasonably affordable even with Ainge in charge) or maybe something with a sign and trade involving an older "star" like Derozan. That level of addition. And that's not necessarily a bad move as it strengthens an area that they are lacking in.

But then again, they may decide they have no choice but to go all in given their current situation (timeline, contracts, players, window of opportunity, declining value of their "draft assets" as each year passes and the new CBA rules that could greatly hinder moves in following years).

I do think they will be more aggressive than ever and more prone to "take a chance" or "pay up" than they have in the past few seasons.

[moocow007]

On trades, money and related "impossibilitiness" of making moves.

At the end of the day, the only guy that is off limits for the Knicks in a trade is Brunson. They can make moves if they feel those moves will make them better than they were last season (and Brunson was a HUGE reason they were what they were last season lets be honest).

Is the climate ideal for a big trade? No. It is a guarantee that if they do make a big trade that they'll be better? No. But do I believe that the Knicks front office believes they have enough to win it all? No.

I don’t know if the league is designed for teams to have an overwhelming advantage any more so a team can say it’s the favorite before the offseason happens. 5 different teams have won the championship the last 5 years. Even if Boston wins this year I don’t think they are a shoe in to win next year.

I do think that the Knicks should be in that conversation next year unless something unexpected happens.

Yeah you do have a point. I think the Knicks will try to make a big move but as of right now the big name players that could be available just doesn't fit well.

[sol537]

Prediction:

1) iHart extends
2) OG extends
3) Thibs extends
4) We trade McBride, scraps, & picks for Caruso
5) Rokas comes over
6) We keep Bogs (for now)

iHart / Robinson
Randle / Bogs
OG / Hart
DDV / Caruso
Brunson / Rokas

We extend this team's "window" with all the extensions... we address bench playmaking.... we improve our defense/size... and we hold on to Bogs for a potential Feb '25 deadline trade for another upgrade. I can dig it...

[Wildcat]

0% chance he's ever a Knick

Why? Seems like a chance to get a back-up guard without a trade or giving up anything. Like a free addition. I don't know what he'd to to the cap though.

Much like MIlos Vujanic (who showed about as much excitement in being drafted as someone watching paint dry) and unlike a lot of other European players that have come to the NBA and found success, he's thus far never voiced a strong desire to play in the NBA. He was drafted in 2021 which means it'll be 3 years in a little over a week that he was drafted. In that time he's shown up in how many Knick summer leagues? Now if the Knicks drafted him when he was very young then ok but he'll be 24 this season. If he was serious then you'd think he'd put the NBA higher on his priority list than international play. He really hasn't that I'm aware of.

He has.

It was decided (I assume between his agent and the Knicks) to develop overseas. He also had a bit of a down year this season, so I think the Knicks aren't chomping at the bits to get him here, either.

[moocow007]

Why? Seems like a chance to get a back-up guard without a trade or giving up anything. Like a free addition. I don't know what he'd to to the cap though.

Much like MIlos Vujanic (who showed about as much excitement in being drafted as someone watching paint dry) and unlike a lot of other European players that have come to the NBA and found success, he's thus far never voiced a strong desire to play in the NBA. He was drafted in 2021 which means it'll be 3 years in a little over a week that he was drafted. In that time he's shown up in how many Knick summer leagues? Now if the Knicks drafted him when he was very young then ok but he'll be 24 this season. If he was serious then you'd think he'd put the NBA higher on his priority list than international play. He really hasn't that I'm aware of.

He has.

It was decided (I assume between his agent and the Knicks) to develop overseas. He also had a bit of a down year this season, so I think the Knicks aren't chomping at the bits to get him here, either.

He has what? Shown eagerness to come to the NBA? That he plans to eventually play in the NBA? Vujanic said he planned to as well. But did not sound like it was a life goal of his back then. That's what I'm referencing. Some guys just want the perfect situation before they jump and it's highly unlikely he'd get that here.

[Juco24]

Prediction:

1) iHart extends
2) OG extends
3) Thibs extends
4) We trade McBride, scraps, & picks for Caruso
5) Rokas comes over
6) We keep Bogs (for now)

iHart / Robinson
Randle / Bogs
OG / Hart
DDV / Caruso
Brunson / Rokas

We extend this team's "window" with all the extensions... we address bench playmaking.... we improve our defense/size... and we hold on to Bogs for a potential Feb '25 deadline trade for another upgrade. I can dig it...

McBride and picks for Caruso... nah, I'm good.

[sol537]

Prediction:

1) iHart extends
2) OG extends
3) Thibs extends
4) We trade McBride, scraps, & picks for Caruso
5) Rokas comes over
6) We keep Bogs (for now)

iHart / Robinson
Randle / Bogs
OG / Hart
DDV / Caruso
Brunson / Rokas

We extend this team's "window" with all the extensions... we address bench playmaking.... we improve our defense/size... and we hold on to Bogs for a potential Feb '25 deadline trade for another upgrade. I can dig it...

McBride and picks for Caruso... nah, I'm good.

McBride, #25, #38, Diakete, Sims for Caruso aka "OG lite"... he's like getting our own Derrick White (not an exact archetype but you know what I mean... 2-way winning player...like OG was for us... and you know how that catapulted us forward)...

[knicksstuff]

Does anyone know if we can offer a contract to OG immediately after the finals are over or is thre some rule where we have to wait because he was traded? I know the new rule in the NBA most free agents can immediately start negotiations at the conclusion of the finals

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Prediction:

1) iHart extends
2) OG extends
3) Thibs extends
4) We trade McBride, scraps, & picks for Caruso
5) Rokas comes over
6) We keep Bogs (for now)

iHart / Robinson
Randle / Bogs
OG / Hart
DDV / Caruso
Brunson / Rokas

We extend this team's "window" with all the extensions... we address bench playmaking.... we improve our defense/size... and we hold on to Bogs for a potential Feb '25 deadline trade for another upgrade. I can dig it...

McBride and picks for Caruso... nah, I'm good.

McBride, #25, #38, Diakete, Sims for Caruso aka "OG lite"... he's like getting our own Derrick White (not an exact archetype but you know what I mean... 2-way winning player...like OG was for us... and you know how that catapulted us forward)...

We don't need another guy that can't do anything with the ball. He's going to be a free agent at the end of next season, so instead of having a guy on a value deal like McBride we'll have to pay him $15-20 million per to come off the bench? It makes absolutely no sense to go after Caruso, we need more offense, not another limited offensive player. He's not like White, he doesn't create with the dribble like White can.