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Re: Breaking: Tom Fired 

Post#801 » by mpharris36 » Tue Jun 3, 2025 11:20 pm

god shammgod wrote:from what i know bryant is known as a development coach and a guy that players like. i don't know that he's established himself in an way as far as specific defensive or offensive philosophies.


As long as they aren't bad schemes like continuing to play KAT in drop or offensively just have a bunch of players stand around I will trust him to have a more analytical approach which is needed.


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Experimenting with lineups in the regular season to see what works best instead of waiting until you are losing in the playoffs.
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Re: Breaking: Tom Fired 

Post#802 » by god shammgod » Tue Jun 3, 2025 11:20 pm

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i think he's grown as a coach a lot from his nets days and even when he first got to the mavs. but still....i would rather not.
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Re: Breaking: Tom Fired 

Post#803 » by thebuzzardman » Tue Jun 3, 2025 11:22 pm

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if there's one guy I'd look to trade, it's Josh Hart

love the hustle and all the energy, but in the playoffs, he's kinda a liability when we need half-court offense. White Donte was more valuable to this squad than Hart b/c in addition to being a solid defender, he could shoot lights out, and we need someone who can come off of screens and hit catch and shoot 3's. Hart is a great rebounder and can score in transition, but we need more utility than that for the playoffs. his defense isn't lockdown enough to warrant playing him that many minutes either given the rest of his skillset.

at 19.4M, he's quite tradable, and I'm sure plenty of other teams could use him. Hate to break up the chemistry, but I'd rather keep Jalen, Mikal, OG, KAT in tact and the only other tradable assets (in terms of sending out salary) are Hart, Mitch, and Deuce

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Re: Breaking: Tom Fired 

Post#804 » by god shammgod » Tue Jun 3, 2025 11:23 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:from what i know bryant is known as a development coach and a guy that players like. i don't know that he's established himself in an way as far as specific defensive or offensive philosophies.


As long as they aren't bad schemes like continuing to play KAT in drop or offensively just have a bunch of players stand around I will trust him to have a more analytical approach which is needed.


More 3's
Guarding the 3
More player movement
Experimenting with lineups in the regular season to see what works best instead of waiting until you are losing in the playoffs.


i can't abide this. kat was doing this on his own. he wasn't supposed to. unless you think two respected beat reporters made that up. the offense maybe wasn't structured enough but you can't blame thibs for kat dropping back.
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Re: Breaking: Tom Fired 

Post#805 » by thebuzzardman » Tue Jun 3, 2025 11:24 pm

Capn'O wrote:Jenkins intrigues me as well.

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Re: Breaking: Tom Fired 

Post#806 » by Red Vines » Tue Jun 3, 2025 11:25 pm

If Bryant is the guy spending a year to spy on the Cavs was brilliant.
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Re: Breaking: Tom Fired 

Post#807 » by nykballa2k4 » Tue Jun 3, 2025 11:26 pm

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The ceiling was a top 4 team in the league and a bit of randomness away from being in the finals (where who knows what would happen). This was a complete miscarriage but we will see what happens next. Will Rick Brunson still be on the staff? Lots of questions....

Next year we would have been a legit chance at the #1 seed.

This the funniest part to me y'all have him KAT the week of training camp, Mitch was out all year, and Thibs had to figure it out on the spot. Now he's fired and another coach has to basically go through all these growing pains again? We don't have a LeBron, a Giannis, a Jokic, etc. How are they expecting to win without at least a coach for continuity and creating a winning and stable franchise? Our floor being 37-45 was a big deal and now we're in limbo.


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Re: Breaking: Tom Fired 

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Re: Breaking: Tom Fired 

Post#809 » by navyblue » Tue Jun 3, 2025 11:28 pm

sol537 wrote:How about Bryant as head coach and JVG as lead assistant…

One bad month, a bad stretch and the talk of jvg being head coach would be too much.
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Re: Breaking: Tom Fired 

Post#810 » by knickstape4ever » Tue Jun 3, 2025 11:28 pm

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if there's one guy I'd look to trade, it's Josh Hart

love the hustle and all the energy, but in the playoffs, he's kinda a liability when we need half-court offense. White Donte was more valuable to this squad than Hart b/c in addition to being a solid defender, he could shoot lights out, and we need someone who can come off of screens and hit catch and shoot 3's. Hart is a great rebounder and can score in transition, but we need more utility than that for the playoffs. his defense isn't lockdown enough to warrant playing him that many minutes either given the rest of his skillset.

at 19.4M, he's quite tradable, and I'm sure plenty of other teams could use him. Hate to break up the chemistry, but I'd rather keep Jalen, Mikal, OG, KAT in tact and the only other tradable assets (in terms of sending out salary) are Hart, Mitch, and Deuce

Hart is the Thibs of players


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Re: Breaking: Tom Fired 

Post#811 » by Pr0nzingis » Tue Jun 3, 2025 11:28 pm

god shammgod wrote:kenny atkinson did worse against indy than we did

Thibs defenders my god.

No he didn't, cavs had multiple injuries.
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Re: Breaking: Tom Fired 

Post#812 » by Polk377 » Tue Jun 3, 2025 11:28 pm

Whoever it is has to use early staggered lineups. The starters only need about 15-18 mins together. Keep guys fresh and have an attack strategy for each lineup. If I see another high pick and roll that takes 15 seconds to setup I will puke.
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Re: Breaking: Tom Fired 

Post#813 » by Wildcat » Tue Jun 3, 2025 11:28 pm

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knicks1999 wrote:The bad part of this for us older Knicks fans is it seemed the Knicks were finally a stable organization with a good culture….no more going through Presidents/GM’s/Coaches….finally felt like a solid run Team …..even if we get a new coach that is successful….which I hope happens….just brings back a bit of PTSD….


i do feel that. felt like we were establishing a heat/spurs like atmosphere where we have continuity for a long time. you never know how these things go.


Jackson set the culture, Kerr perfected it. Maybe we'll have the same transition.
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Re: Breaking: Tom Fired 

Post#814 » by Red Vines » Tue Jun 3, 2025 11:29 pm

I say let Johnnie Bryant cut his teeth with PHX and when we're ready for our next rebuild he'll be in his coaching prime. Right now we need experience to navigate a potential Finals run.
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Re: Breaking: Tom Fired 

Post#815 » by KnixinSix » Tue Jun 3, 2025 11:31 pm

Why is Kenny Atkinson the next highest odds for our next HC????
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Re: Breaking: Tom Fired 

Post#816 » by Jeff Van Gully » Tue Jun 3, 2025 11:34 pm

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Dolan said he asked Tom to play the bench more and dude told him no :lol:

:nod:

They were talking about it when they featured Dolan on the "Roommates" show.

Also, there was a report that Dolan made a special trip into the locker room to endorse Huk..which obviously showed that Dolan expects him to play.


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That's actually pretty cool.

I agree with Jim. Huk has potential


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Re: Breaking: Tom Fired 

Post#817 » by mpharris36 » Tue Jun 3, 2025 11:41 pm

god shammgod wrote:
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god shammgod wrote:from what i know bryant is known as a development coach and a guy that players like. i don't know that he's established himself in an way as far as specific defensive or offensive philosophies.


As long as they aren't bad schemes like continuing to play KAT in drop or offensively just have a bunch of players stand around I will trust him to have a more analytical approach which is needed.


More 3's
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More player movement
Experimenting with lineups in the regular season to see what works best instead of waiting until you are losing in the playoffs.


i can't abide this. kat was doing this on his own. he wasn't supposed to. unless you think two respected beat reporters made that up. the offense maybe wasn't structured enough but you can't blame thibs for kat dropping back.


Yes you can.

During the regular season it's what we ran it's our shell if your telling me we made some slight adjustments in the playoffs sure. If your telling me that nearly every possession KAT was messing up then it's still on him for not coaching him.

All regular season I was yelling to run more defensive coverages like switch so the team gets acclimated with communicating and being prepared for teams that shoot. But the we want to make changed in the playoffs and just assume everyone is on the same page?

You can't tell me as a coach in the playoffs if a guy continues to mess up what you want excuted how do you continue to let him do it? That makes no sense to me.
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Re: Breaking: Tom Fired 

Post#818 » by Context » Tue Jun 3, 2025 11:43 pm

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Re: Breaking: Tom Fired 

Post#819 » by Context » Tue Jun 3, 2025 11:47 pm

god shammgod wrote:kenny atkinson did worse against indy than we did

The cavs had key injuries Sham...I think Indy is just on a magical run to be honest. As much as I hate everything associated with Indy -especially Reggie Miller. Everything has been going their way and I wouldnt be surprised if that happened when they play OKC.
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Post#820 » by H_20 » Tue Jun 3, 2025 11:47 pm

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