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Re: Official 2019 Mets Thread, II, p. 337 

Post#821 » by Jeffrey » Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:07 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:Nolan Arenado :wink:


Is he a better need than a guy like Mookie Betts? I actually wanted Rendon so we can lockup the corners for years but sh.it Nolan is a lot better than Rendon. I would even go further and make that trade, wait for new owners to see if he wants to add a year or two to that contract to lock him up.

Nimmo (L)
McNeil (L)
Alonso (R)
Conforto (L)
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Cano (L)
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Re: Official 2019 Mets Thread, II, p. 337 

Post#822 » by HarthorneWingo » Mon Dec 23, 2019 4:18 am

Jeffrey wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:Nolan Arenado :wink:


Is he a better need than a guy like Mookie Betts? I actually wanted Rendon so we can lockup the corners for years but sh.it Nolan is a lot better than Rendon. I would even go further and make that trade, wait for new owners to see if he wants to add a year or two to that contract to lock him up.

Nimmo (L)
McNeil (L)
Alonso (R)
Conforto (L)
Arenado (R)
Cano (L)
Ramos (R)
Pitcher
Rosario (R)


Arenado is under control for a while. Betts will be a free agent after next season, I believe.
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Re: Official 2019 Mets Thread, II, p. 337 

Post#823 » by Jeffrey » Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:04 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Jeffrey wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:Nolan Arenado :wink:


Is he a better need than a guy like Mookie Betts? I actually wanted Rendon so we can lockup the corners for years but sh.it Nolan is a lot better than Rendon. I would even go further and make that trade, wait for new owners to see if he wants to add a year or two to that contract to lock him up.

Nimmo (L)
McNeil (L)
Alonso (R)
Conforto (L)
Arenado (R)
Cano (L)
Ramos (R)
Pitcher
Rosario (R)


Arenado is under control for a while. Betts will be a free agent after next season, I believe.


I think he has a player option in 2 years. If he continues at this pace, he will want more than what Rendon got.
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Re: Official 2019 Mets Thread, II, p. 337 

Post#824 » by HarthorneWingo » Mon Dec 23, 2019 6:20 am

Jeffrey wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Jeffrey wrote:
Is he a better need than a guy like Mookie Betts? I actually wanted Rendon so we can lockup the corners for years but sh.it Nolan is a lot better than Rendon. I would even go further and make that trade, wait for new owners to see if he wants to add a year or two to that contract to lock him up.

Nimmo (L)
McNeil (L)
Alonso (R)
Conforto (L)
Arenado (R)
Cano (L)
Ramos (R)
Pitcher
Rosario (R)


Arenado is under control for a while. Betts will be a free agent after next season, I believe.


I think he has a player option in 2 years. If he continues at this pace, he will want more than what Rendon got.


Betts is an UFA after this season and Arenado is one in 2026. Big difference.
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Re: Official 2019 Mets Thread, II, p. 337 

Post#825 » by newyorker4ever » Mon Dec 23, 2019 2:58 pm

Jeffrey wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:Nolan Arenado :wink:


Is he a better need than a guy like Mookie Betts? I actually wanted Rendon so we can lockup the corners for years but sh.it Nolan is a lot better than Rendon. I would even go further and make that trade, wait for new owners to see if he wants to add a year or two to that contract to lock him up.

Nimmo (L)
McNeil (L)
Alonso (R)
Conforto (L)
Arenado (R)
Cano (L)
Ramos (R)
Pitcher
Rosario (R)


Not the better needed guy because of the position each play and would rather have Mookie because of him being the better fit and us having 3B covered with Mcneil but Mookie is only under contract for this next season and i would think will be looking and getting a richer contract then what Arenado is playing under now. Arenado is one of my favorite players in all baseball but big Mookie fan as well. I'd be very happy with either but for what would fit us best it would be Mookie and keeping McNeil at 3B. Now if somehow we could get rid of Cano and move McNeil to 2B then that might be different.......cause the we SteveCo and the Mets can afford both. :nod:
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Re: Official 2019 Mets Thread, II, p. 337 

Post#826 » by HarthorneWingo » Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:03 pm

newyorker4ever wrote:
Jeffrey wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:Nolan Arenado :wink:


Is he a better need than a guy like Mookie Betts? I actually wanted Rendon so we can lockup the corners for years but sh.it Nolan is a lot better than Rendon. I would even go further and make that trade, wait for new owners to see if he wants to add a year or two to that contract to lock him up.

Nimmo (L)
McNeil (L)
Alonso (R)
Conforto (L)
Arenado (R)
Cano (L)
Ramos (R)
Pitcher
Rosario (R)


Not the better needed guy because of the position each play and would rather have Mookie because of him being the better fit and us having 3B covered with Mcneil but Mookie is only under contract for this next season and i would think will be looking and getting a richer contract then what Arenado is playing under now. Arenado is one of my favorite players in all baseball but big Mookie fan as well. I'd be very happy with either but for what would fit us best it would be Mookie and keeping McNeil at 3B. Now if somehow we could get rid of Cano and move McNeil to 2B then that might be different.......cause the we SteveCo and the Mets can afford both. :nod:


Two questions I think are relevant:

1. What would Boston be asking for compared to the Rockies given that Betts has only one year left on his contract; and

2. Is our new owner willing to open up his wallet to sign Betts to a $275+ million contract?
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Re: Official 2019 Mets Thread, II, p. 337 

Post#827 » by Rich Rane » Tue Dec 24, 2019 7:12 pm

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:cry: Take good care of him. :cry:
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Re: Official 2019 Mets Thread, II, p. 337 

Post#828 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Dec 24, 2019 8:44 pm

Rich Rane wrote:
Read on Twitter


:cry: Take good care of him. :cry:


I hope he takes care of us. :lol: You think he’s going to be okay this season?

This was reub’s Hanukkah present.
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Re: Official 2019 Mets Thread, II, p. 337 

Post#829 » by newyorker4ever » Tue Dec 24, 2019 9:30 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Rich Rane wrote:
Read on Twitter


:cry: Take good care of him. :cry:


I hope he takes care of us. :lol: You think he’s going to be okay this season?

This was reub’s Hanukkah present.



From 2014-2018 he pitched at least 66 innings each season and had 100+ strikeouts each season so he has proven he can stay healthy and give some good innings out of the BP. He has supposedly lost 3-4 MPH on his fastball which he's even talked about but he can still dominate if he can stay healthy.
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Re: Official 2019 Mets Thread, II, p. 337 

Post#830 » by reub » Tue Dec 24, 2019 9:50 pm

reub wrote:I meant earlier to sign two relievers, Betances being one of them.

We can't go into the season with Diaz and Familia as question marks with Gsellman's inconsistency and Lugo needing 2 days off after every time he pitches.


A self-fulfilling prophecy? Lol. I'm happy about this signing. What are we paying him? We still can use one more reliever.
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Re: Official 2019 Mets Thread, II, p. 337 

Post#831 » by Rich Rane » Tue Dec 24, 2019 10:34 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:I hope he takes care of us. :lol: You think he’s going to be okay this season?


I think so, at least to the point I would've loved bringing him back on a 1 year prove it deal.
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Re: Official 2019 Mets Thread, II, p. 337 

Post#832 » by newyorker4ever » Wed Dec 25, 2019 12:44 am

reub wrote:
reub wrote:I meant earlier to sign two relievers, Betances being one of them.

We can't go into the season with Diaz and Familia as question marks with Gsellman's inconsistency and Lugo needing 2 days off after every time he pitches.


A self-fulfilling prophecy? Lol. I'm happy about this signing. What are we paying him? We still can use one more reliever.


https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2858193-mets-ex-yankees-rp-dellin-betances-reportedly-agree-to-contract
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Re: Official 2019 Mets Thread, II, p. 337 

Post#833 » by Jeffrey » Wed Dec 25, 2019 6:06 am

I'm mildly surprised and happy with this signing. The Mets had a good offseason. Didn't trade any prospects and signed a few players that were off track last year and hopefully we're hoping one of them hits.

Last year was a bit different, we got known players and they had down years (Familia, Diaz, Cano, Lowrie). Pretty happy with everything.

If the Mets can eat half of Lowrie's contract and trade him, we can get a few FAs after spring training.
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Re: Official 2019 Mets Thread, II, p. 337 

Post#834 » by newyorker4ever » Wed Dec 25, 2019 4:20 pm

Jeffrey wrote:I'm mildly surprised and happy with this signing. The Mets had a good offseason. Didn't trade any prospects and signed a few players that were off track last year and hopefully we're hoping one of them hits.

Last year was a bit different, we got known players and they had down years (Familia, Diaz, Cano, Lowrie). Pretty happy with everything.

If the Mets can eat half of Lowrie's contract and trade him, we can get a few FAs after spring training.


I'd rather keep Lowrie and trade Dom for another BP or defensive catcher or CF or whatever they feel we need. I think people forget how good Lowrie was in 2018 because he was injured all year last year. This guy can still play the game and can play all 4 IF positions if needed and with The TodFather gone then he would be a great backup for J.McNeil at 3B. I love Dom but we just don't have anywhere to play him with Alonso at 1B and with our OF already loaded with Conforto, Nimmo, JD Davis, Marisick and with Cespedes having a good chance of being back. Now if we can get good value for Cespedes then i'd trade him but with his new salary for 2020 i wouldn't just trade him to trade him cause he's worth a nice return especially to a AL team that can play him in the OF and at DH.
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Re: Official 2019 Mets Thread, II, p. 337 

Post#835 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Dec 25, 2019 7:11 pm

newyorker4ever wrote:
Jeffrey wrote:I'm mildly surprised and happy with this signing. The Mets had a good offseason. Didn't trade any prospects and signed a few players that were off track last year and hopefully we're hoping one of them hits.

Last year was a bit different, we got known players and they had down years (Familia, Diaz, Cano, Lowrie). Pretty happy with everything.

If the Mets can eat half of Lowrie's contract and trade him, we can get a few FAs after spring training.


I'd rather keep Lowrie and trade Dom for another BP or defensive catcher or CF or whatever they feel we need. I think people forget how good Lowrie was in 2018 because he was injured all year last year. This guy can still play the game and can play all 4 IF positions if needed and with The TodFather gone then he would be a great backup for J.McNeil at 3B. I love Dom but we just don't have anywhere to play him with Alonso at 1B and with our OF already loaded with Conforto, Nimmo, JD Davis, Marisick and with Cespedes having a good chance of being back. Now if we can get good value for Cespedes then i'd trade him but with his new salary for 2020 i wouldn't just trade him to trade him cause he's worth a nice return especially to a AL team that can play him in the OF and at DH.


Lowrie would have to be able to play some SS in order for us to keep and use him in that way and I don't think there's anyway he'd be competent there. So that means 2B and 3B. There's just not enough playing time at those positions to justify paying him that much. We could fill that role with Guillorme or eventually Giminez later this season.

I also see JD Davis as a goner. His defense is just too tenuous in the OF particularly if Cespedes is healthy and playing.
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Re: Official 2019 Mets Thread, II, p. 337 

Post#836 » by newyorker4ever » Wed Dec 25, 2019 10:59 pm

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newyorker4ever wrote:
Jeffrey wrote:I'm mildly surprised and happy with this signing. The Mets had a good offseason. Didn't trade any prospects and signed a few players that were off track last year and hopefully we're hoping one of them hits.

Last year was a bit different, we got known players and they had down years (Familia, Diaz, Cano, Lowrie). Pretty happy with everything.

If the Mets can eat half of Lowrie's contract and trade him, we can get a few FAs after spring training.


I'd rather keep Lowrie and trade Dom for another BP or defensive catcher or CF or whatever they feel we need. I think people forget how good Lowrie was in 2018 because he was injured all year last year. This guy can still play the game and can play all 4 IF positions if needed and with The TodFather gone then he would be a great backup for J.McNeil at 3B. I love Dom but we just don't have anywhere to play him with Alonso at 1B and with our OF already loaded with Conforto, Nimmo, JD Davis, Marisick and with Cespedes having a good chance of being back. Now if we can get good value for Cespedes then i'd trade him but with his new salary for 2020 i wouldn't just trade him to trade him cause he's worth a nice return especially to a AL team that can play him in the OF and at DH.


Lowrie would have to be able to play some SS in order for us to keep and use him in that way and I don't think there's anyway he'd be competent there. So that means 2B and 3B. There's just not enough playing time at those positions to justify paying him that much. We could fill that role with Guillorme or eventually Giminez later this season.

I also see JD Davis as a goner. His defense is just too tenuous in the OF particularly if Cespedes is healthy and playing.


Who says he can't play SS? He's played there plenty in his career but was moved from there when the A's got Semien to play there and was younger and better defensively but i think he could play there if that's where he was needed. He played a 130 games at SS in 2014 and they got Semien up in 2015 and that's when Lowrie went to Houston who obviously had C.Correa at SS. I'm not saying he'd be as good as he used to be since he's 35 yes old now but i definitely think he could fill in if Rosario needed a day off or had a injury. I'm sure we'll also have someone else on the roster that can play there as well or someone we could call up if needed. Gimenez could even be ready to come up. The Mets were also talking about playing him at 1B when we first got him and still weren't sure what P.Alonso was gonna be yet so he could play all 4 IF positions if needed.
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Re: Official 2019 Mets Thread, II, p. 337 

Post#837 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Dec 25, 2019 11:48 pm

newyorker4ever wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
I'd rather keep Lowrie and trade Dom for another BP or defensive catcher or CF or whatever they feel we need. I think people forget how good Lowrie was in 2018 because he was injured all year last year. This guy can still play the game and can play all 4 IF positions if needed and with The TodFather gone then he would be a great backup for J.McNeil at 3B. I love Dom but we just don't have anywhere to play him with Alonso at 1B and with our OF already loaded with Conforto, Nimmo, JD Davis, Marisick and with Cespedes having a good chance of being back. Now if we can get good value for Cespedes then i'd trade him but with his new salary for 2020 i wouldn't just trade him to trade him cause he's worth a nice return especially to a AL team that can play him in the OF and at DH.


Lowrie would have to be able to play some SS in order for us to keep and use him in that way and I don't think there's anyway he'd be competent there. So that means 2B and 3B. There's just not enough playing time at those positions to justify paying him that much. We could fill that role with Guillorme or eventually Giminez later this season.

I also see JD Davis as a goner. His defense is just too tenuous in the OF particularly if Cespedes is healthy and playing.


Who says he can't play SS? He's played there plenty in his career but was moved from there when the A's got Semien to play there and was younger and better defensively but i think he could play there if that's where he was needed. He played a 130 games at SS in 2014 and they got Semien up in 2015 and that's when Lowrie went to Houston who obviously had C.Correa at SS. I'm not saying he'd be as good as he used to be since he's 35 yes old now but i definitely think he could fill in if Rosario needed a day off or had a injury. I'm sure we'll also have someone else on the roster that can play there as well or someone we could call up if needed. Gimenez could even be ready to come up. The Mets were also talking about playing him at 1B when we first got him and still weren't sure what P.Alonso was gonna be yet so he could play all 4 IF positions if needed.


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Re: Official 2019 Mets Thread, II, p. 337 

Post#838 » by newyorker4ever » Thu Dec 26, 2019 12:38 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Lowrie would have to be able to play some SS in order for us to keep and use him in that way and I don't think there's anyway he'd be competent there. So that means 2B and 3B. There's just not enough playing time at those positions to justify paying him that much. We could fill that role with Guillorme or eventually Giminez later this season.

I also see JD Davis as a goner. His defense is just too tenuous in the OF particularly if Cespedes is healthy and playing.


Who says he can't play SS? He's played there plenty in his career but was moved from there when the A's got Semien to play there and was younger and better defensively but i think he could play there if that's where he was needed. He played a 130 games at SS in 2014 and they got Semien up in 2015 and that's when Lowrie went to Houston who obviously had C.Correa at SS. I'm not saying he'd be as good as he used to be since he's 35 yes old now but i definitely think he could fill in if Rosario needed a day off or had a injury. I'm sure we'll also have someone else on the roster that can play there as well or someone we could call up if needed. Gimenez could even be ready to come up. The Mets were also talking about playing him at 1B when we first got him and still weren't sure what P.Alonso was gonna be yet so he could play all 4 IF positions if needed.


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Re: Official 2019 Mets Thread, II, p. 337 

Post#839 » by Stannis » Thu Dec 26, 2019 4:17 pm

Apparently Mets are looking to trade Cespedes?

I was looking forward to bringing him back; but now I'm wondering if he is pissed the Mets restructured his deal?
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Post#840 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu Dec 26, 2019 4:25 pm

I'll tell you this about Betances...if someone gets on base...they can walk to 3rd base. He can be terrible with runners on base. It's scary to watch at times.
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