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Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides

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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#821 » by newyorker4ever » Fri Jul 5, 2019 5:26 pm

Cookies4Life wrote:I doubt we'd be able to get Bamba for Frank. I would love that if it was possible, talk about a guy who can develop into a great backup for Money Mitch.

I'd imagine we'd have to throw a few second rounders with Frank to get that done and that's only if Orlando really doesn't believe in MO. He was the 6th pick just 1 season ago so I can't imagine they'd be ready to move off of him.


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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#822 » by mpharris36 » Fri Jul 5, 2019 5:26 pm

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BLACKFEET 2010 wrote:I’d take it a step further and say he’s traded (or worse, cut/option declined) before camp.

You don’t spend on Bullock and Ellington when you have RJ, Knox and Trier as core pieces...if Dot has a spot. He has value I think. But I don’t know how it all works with the option and if he can get traded. I just have a gut feeling he’s not gonna be here to start camp.

Let’s not act like Fiz reaaally allowed him to “keep what he killed”. Dude was juggled in and out with no rhyme or reason. Moreso than any player considering how consistently he played.

Dotson contract option will be picked up by the knicks for 2019-2020 season according berman.
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I wonder if he’s eligible to be traded immediately after his option is picked up.


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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#823 » by BLACKFEET 2010 » Fri Jul 5, 2019 5:27 pm

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BLACKFEET 2010 wrote:I’d take it a step further and say he’s traded (or worse, cut/option declined) before camp.

You don’t spend on Bullock and Ellington when you have RJ, Knox and Trier as core pieces...if Dot has a spot. He has value I think. But I don’t know how it all works with the option and if he can get traded. I just have a gut feeling he’s not gonna be here to start camp.

Let’s not act like Fiz reaaally allowed him to “keep what he killed”. Dude was juggled in and out with no rhyme or reason. Moreso than any player considering how consistently he played.

Dotson contract option will be picked up by the knicks for 2019-2020 season according berman.
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Its been about a decade so I understand ya'll forgetting but there is this thing called "quality" depth. I think that is the plan this year...... so I don't think anyone gets cut if they have shown any potential.


You cannot have a team of young guys all trying to establish themselves logjammed up playing the same position. There are redundancies and deficits on this roster as is.

I’m not advocating to trade anyone but there is still work to do before training camp.
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#824 » by Knicksfan20 » Fri Jul 5, 2019 5:27 pm

What does our cap room look like going Into the season? Anybody have an updated number ?
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#825 » by mpharris36 » Fri Jul 5, 2019 5:29 pm

Knicksfan20 wrote:What does our cap room look like going Into the season? Anybody have an updated number ?


I think we are about 3 million still under the salary cap + we have the 4.8 room exception as well. With 14 guaranteed contractss once Dotson signs.

There have been rumors we just sign lance to that cap space. Probaly just keep the 4.8 room execption during the season if someone gets waived.
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Post#826 » by RHODEY » Fri Jul 5, 2019 5:33 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:Michael Porter Jr. injured again and will miss SL

To think there were guys here beating the drum to draft him.

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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#827 » by taj2133 » Fri Jul 5, 2019 5:33 pm

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Knicksfan20 wrote:What does our cap room look like going Into the season? Anybody have an updated number ?


I think we are about 3 million still under the salary cap + we have the 4.8 room exception as well. With 14 guaranteed contractss once Dotson signs.

There have been rumors we just sign lance to that cap space. Probaly just keep the 4.8 room execption during the season if someone gets waived.

Espn said we had 6 million dollars left and they said that couple days ago even with our signing of ellington and payton.
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#828 » by F N 11 » Fri Jul 5, 2019 5:34 pm

Begley said right now Payton will get every opportunity to win the starting spot. I get it DSJ is inconsistent with PG play. Good luck DSJ.
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#829 » by Capn'O » Fri Jul 5, 2019 5:34 pm

The Porter family is snakebit.
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#830 » by newyorker4ever » Fri Jul 5, 2019 5:36 pm

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Knicksfan20 wrote:What does our cap room look like going Into the season? Anybody have an updated number ?


I think we are about 3 million still under the salary cap + we have the 4.8 room exception as well. With 14 guaranteed contractss once Dotson signs.

There have been rumors we just sign lance to that cap space. Probaly just keep the 4.8 room execption during the season if someone gets waived.


The two names i've heard the most for that last spot are Lance and Vince Carter.
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#831 » by RHODEY » Fri Jul 5, 2019 5:36 pm

Capn'O wrote:He gone...

I wonder if there have been more setbacks on the Fultz front.


Frank got wacked?

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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#832 » by taj2133 » Fri Jul 5, 2019 5:42 pm

I am guessing the knicks want to give kadeem allen a contract with the money left over that's why frank to the magic rumors are going on.
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#833 » by Thugger HBC » Fri Jul 5, 2019 5:42 pm

RHODEY wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:Michael Porter Jr. injured again and will miss SL

To think there were guys here beating the drum to draft him.

Imagine the backlash of redshirting our top draft pick, then the following year redshirting our top free agent. Endless roasting.
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#834 » by dakomish23 » Fri Jul 5, 2019 5:45 pm

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BLACKFEET 2010 wrote:Not for nothing, I hope people aren’t just assuming Dot’s safe. His standing here after the free agent adds is just as much in question as Frank.


Yep. If he starts out cold, he might get buried for a few months.

I’d take it a step further and say he’s traded (or worse, cut/option declined) before camp.

You don’t spend on Bullock and Ellington when you have RJ, Knox and Trier as core pieces...if Dot has a spot. He has value I think. But I don’t know how it all works with the option and if he can get traded. I just have a gut feeling he’s not gonna be here to start camp.

Let’s not act like Fiz reaaally allowed him to “keep what he killed”. Dude was juggled in and out with no rhyme or reason. Moreso than any player considering how consistently he played.


Agreed on everything except the timing of the trade. Odds are he’ll get buried and be sent packing closer to the deadline when his value is at it’s absolute lowest.

I get having a lot of shooting, but you’re not signing those guys to let them rot on the bench.
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#836 » by G_K_F » Fri Jul 5, 2019 5:54 pm

Ya'll want to talk about Frank after 2 seasons yet Elfriid Payton is literally the same player entering his 6th NBA season.

The guy still can't shoot or play defense. He is an average NBA PG and a backup at best.

He's just a shiny new object so everyone will make him out to be better than what he is.
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#837 » by Chanel Bomber » Fri Jul 5, 2019 5:55 pm

RHODEY wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:Michael Porter Jr. injured again and will miss SL

To think there were guys here beating the drum to draft him.


It’s a marathon, not a sprint.

But this appears to be one of those cases where injuries simply run in the family and there’s very little Porter can do about it.

His situation reminds me so much of this:

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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#838 » by blueNorange » Fri Jul 5, 2019 5:55 pm

F N 11 wrote:Begley said right now Payton will get every opportunity to win the starting spot. I get it DSJ is inconsistent with PG play. Good luck DSJ.

the moment the knicks worked out garland last minute incase rj was gone clearly showed the knicks don't think highly of dsj as an nba starting point guard.

maybe they should watch youtube highlights to change their minds :dontknow:
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#839 » by K_ick_God » Fri Jul 5, 2019 5:59 pm

Wait what is the chatter on who we would get for Frank?
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#840 » by K_ick_God » Fri Jul 5, 2019 6:00 pm

Fiz: "We fixed Mudiay, so we will fix Fultz the same way." Thank you David, Tom will show you the door.

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