2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 6) -LOTTO 8/20 DRAFT 10/16!

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

Realistically what does #27 and #38 get you if want to move up in this draft. To be fair, I wish Frank had shown a little more value because I wouldn’t mind moving him if the Knicks absolutely had their hearts set on another player between #14-#17 for argument sake. My issue with even the thought of trading Frank is that it’s the epitome of selling low. Why on earth he can’t just become a 39% three point shooter is beyond me at this point. As fans we are asking him to play excellent defense, run the point on occasion while Knocking down 3s consistently (this should be his main point of focus every single off season, before practice, after practice. If he can’t do that by year 4 it’s time to move on.

The Knicks managed to get Doug McDermott's 3pt stats down to 38.7% 3pt%age on 4.2 attempts/36m (lowest rate of his career).
Two years later he's 44.5% on 7.7att/36m.

Just a thought.

[TheGreenArrow]

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I've been on the LaMelo train for the past few months after originally going with Edwards #1, but this article is starting to give me pause again w/ regards to LaVar

in the article, LaVar says they keep changing agents because the previous agents didn't get LiAngelo to sign w/ Lonzo. Will LaVar throw a fit if the Knicks dont want Gelo?

I wouldn't even sign Gelo to a 2-way contract, he's not good. I know this is the same team that signed Chris Smith (whose agent was....Leon Rose), but c'mon are we really gonna give away a roster spot? Gelo might not even be good enough for the g league

For lamelo I’d do it.

I believe www will be able to keep lavar in check.

[DaGawd]

Not that it really matter what LaMelo wants... Steph Curry also wanted the Knicks...

[newyorker4ever]

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I get that people love the vision and passing of Lamelo, and i do as well, but i gotta say drafting him with a top 4 pick would make me nervous cause it seems like he's more just chasing the name then how good/great he will be in the NBA. His shot and mechanics are so far off and his defense is basically non-existent. I wouldn't be mad at it cause at the very least he'll be able to run the offense and set guys up for open shots with his passing but he could also shoot you out of games cause even though he's a bad shooter he still likes to shoot.

[robillionaire]

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I've been on the LaMelo train for the past few months after originally going with Edwards #1, but this article is starting to give me pause again w/ regards to LaVar

in the article, LaVar says they keep changing agents because the previous agents didn't get LiAngelo to sign w/ Lonzo. Will LaVar throw a fit if the Knicks dont want Gelo?

I wouldn't even sign Gelo to a 2-way contract, he's not good. I know this is the same team that signed Chris Smith (whose agent was....Leon Rose), but c'mon are we really gonna give away a roster spot? Gelo might not even be good enough for the g league

We should absolutely sign gelo at least to westchester

[mpharris36]

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[robillionaire]

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[Infinitimind]

Would you still rank RJ Barrett ahead of anyone in this draft?

Some Warrior fans I’ve spoken with said they are willing to trade their top pick for RJ.

I've heard this before too. The idea of RJ being the number 1 pick if he was in this draft is not far fetched

Rj average 22 points 7 rebounds and 4 assist. Beat the united state with no one his team On fiba 17. Give this kid spacing in the nba and he going put up numbers. Who goes before him in this draft ?

[Zenzibar]

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I've been on the LaMelo train for the past few months after originally going with Edwards #1, but this article is starting to give me pause again w/ regards to LaVar

in the article, LaVar says they keep changing agents because the previous agents didn't get LiAngelo to sign w/ Lonzo. Will LaVar throw a fit if the Knicks dont want Gelo?

I wouldn't even sign Gelo to a 2-way contract, he's not good. I know this is the same team that signed Chris Smith (whose agent was....Leon Rose), but c'mon are we really gonna give away a roster spot? Gelo might not even be good enough for the g league

We should absolutely sign gelo at least to westchester

Question:
So what happens on the PnR when teams constantly go under screens cause LaMelo can't hit a 3? How do the other parts of his game positively affect games?

Answer:
They don't.

[robillionaire]

I've been on the LaMelo train for the past few months after originally going with Edwards #1, but this article is starting to give me pause again w/ regards to LaVar

in the article, LaVar says they keep changing agents because the previous agents didn't get LiAngelo to sign w/ Lonzo. Will LaVar throw a fit if the Knicks dont want Gelo?

I wouldn't even sign Gelo to a 2-way contract, he's not good. I know this is the same team that signed Chris Smith (whose agent was....Leon Rose), but c'mon are we really gonna give away a roster spot? Gelo might not even be good enough for the g league

We should absolutely sign gelo at least to westchester

Question:
So what happens on the PnR when teams constantly go under screens cause LaMelo can't hit a 3? How do the other parts of his game positively affect games?

Answer:
They don't.

i'm not even worried about it because he will just make a ton of 3s if left open

[Zenzibar]

We should absolutely sign gelo at least to westchester

Question:
So what happens on the PnR when teams constantly go under screens cause LaMelo can't hit a 3? How do the other parts of his game positively affect games?

Answer:
They don't.

i'm not even worried about it because he will just make a ton of 3s if left open

haha, are we both talking about Lamelo Ball or Lucille Ball?

[jvsimonetti0514]

I've been on the LaMelo train for the past few months after originally going with Edwards #1, but this article is starting to give me pause again w/ regards to LaVar

in the article, LaVar says they keep changing agents because the previous agents didn't get LiAngelo to sign w/ Lonzo. Will LaVar throw a fit if the Knicks dont want Gelo?

I wouldn't even sign Gelo to a 2-way contract, he's not good. I know this is the same team that signed Chris Smith (whose agent was....Leon Rose), but c'mon are we really gonna give away a roster spot? Gelo might not even be good enough for the g league

We should absolutely sign gelo at least to westchester

Question:
So what happens on the PnR when teams constantly go under screens cause LaMelo can't hit a 3? How do the other parts of his game positively affect games?

Answer:
They don't.

Ricky Rubio has never really shot the ball particularly well in his career and has had a positive impact on the court offensively.

[robillionaire]

Realistically what does #27 and #38 get you if want to move up in this draft. To be fair, I wish Frank had shown a little more value because I wouldn’t mind moving him if the Knicks absolutely had their hearts set on another player between #14-#17 for argument sake. My issue with even the thought of trading Frank is that it’s the epitome of selling low. Why on earth he can’t just become a 39% three point shooter is beyond me at this point. As fans we are asking him to play excellent defense, run the point on occasion while Knocking down 3s consistently (this should be his main point of focus every single off season, before practice, after practice. If he can’t do that by year 4 it’s time to move on.

The Knicks managed to get Doug McDermott's 3pt stats down to 38.7% 3pt%age on 4.2 attempts/36m (lowest rate of his career).
Two years later he's 44.5% on 7.7att/36m.

Just a thought.

same with THJ

[Mattya]

Realistically what does #27 and #38 get you if want to move up in this draft. To be fair, I wish Frank had shown a little more value because I wouldn’t mind moving him if the Knicks absolutely had their hearts set on another player between #14-#17 for argument sake. My issue with even the thought of trading Frank is that it’s the epitome of selling low. Why on earth he can’t just become a 39% three point shooter is beyond me at this point. As fans we are asking him to play excellent defense, run the point on occasion while Knocking down 3s consistently (this should be his main point of focus every single off season, before practice, after practice. If he can’t do that by year 4 it’s time to move on.

I think the Wolves at 16 should be our target, if we're trying to move up. After making the trade for Russell, I'm sure they're trying to get to the next stage of their rebuild. I was thinking something like Randle, 27, and 38 for James Johnson and 16. We can move up and draft the shooter we need and they can get third banana after Towns and Russell. Since Towns can shoot, him and Randle will fit together better than any of our big's here. Unless RJ makes a big jump or we draft one of the stars of the draft, we'll be in a beter position for a top draft pick in 2021 without Randle.

Can’t see the Wolves doing this. The Wolves are already at 14 roster spots with potentially 3 more picks coming in. Now you are adding another on top of that. I think it is far more likely they either package 16 and 33 to secure Vassell, Nesmith, Bey or add those picks to Johnson and try to get a win now player who is better fit who plays defense.

[Zenzibar]

We should absolutely sign gelo at least to westchester

Question:
So what happens on the PnR when teams constantly go under screens cause LaMelo can't hit a 3? How do the other parts of his game positively affect games?

Answer:
They don't.

Ricky Rubio has never really shot the ball particularly well in his career and has had a positive impact on the court offensively.

Exactly, only on offense.

That is why Rubio, who was one of the most hyped European guards in history, has been on multiple teams but few playoff appearances.

THe Knicks need a good shooter at the point and it's not even debatable. This is why I can see Ball slipping to 4 or 5 in this year's draft.

[Jeff Van Gully]

Question:
So what happens on the PnR when teams constantly go under screens cause LaMelo can't hit a 3? How do the other parts of his game positively affect games?

Answer:
They don't.

Ricky Rubio has never really shot the ball particularly well in his career and has had a positive impact on the court offensively.

Exactly, only on offense.

That is why Rubio, who was one of the most hyped European guards in history, has been on multiple teams but few playoff appearances.

THe Knicks need a good shooter at the point and it's not even debatable. This is why I can see Ball slipping to 4 or 5 in this year's draft.

ricky is a known plus defender. that's one of the reasons he's been able to stay in the NBA with such limited scoring ability of his own.

[rajajackal]

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fits like a glove with all of mitch, RJ, and frank.

[TBri1974]

Would you still rank RJ Barrett ahead of anyone in this draft?

Some Warrior fans I’ve spoken with said they are willing to trade their top pick for RJ.

I've heard this before too. The idea of RJ being the number 1 pick if he was in this draft is not far fetched

Rj average 22 points 7 rebounds and 4 assist. Beat the united state with no one his team On fiba 17. Give this kid spacing in the nba and he going put up numbers. Who goes before him in this draft ?

I agree. Someone in this draft is going to be better than RJ perhaps, but it is not clear who that will be, and I still see RJ as having Wade/Butler type ceiling.

In terms of who we are interested in, very curious to see Avdija. I am happy enough with BPA where we sit, but not against a trade. I actually hold out hope for each of our young players if we get the right coach. I think RJ, Mitch, Knox, Frank, Smith, Dotson and even Iggy all have significant upside. Heck, even Randle can be a monster in the right system. Now let's get in the right coach. Tom T may be that guy.

I also hope we start Mitch, Knox, RJ, Dotson and Frank with Smith and our rookies off the bench. Maybe we keep Randle in the starting PF spot and have Dotson or Knox come off the bench.

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Some Toppin scrimmage highlights against Kanter and some other NBA guys

[Worst_to_First]

Would you still rank RJ Barrett ahead of anyone in this draft?

Some Warrior fans I’ve spoken with said they are willing to trade their top pick for RJ.

I would take RJ #2 after Wiseman

If Warriors get #1 and wants to trade it for RJ yeah I’ll pull the trigger then draft Wiseman. Would like to have seen these two friends and both former Gatorade Players of the Year play together though.

Under this scenario who would you like to pair with Wiseman if we get let’s say the #1 and #7 picks?